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    3 months ago

    For those concerned (or hopeful) about vast hordes of topless Minnesota women roaming the streets: They made boobs legal in Ontario in the mid 90’s and I’ve NEVER seen any women go topless in public. I’m sure it happens, but it’s extremely rare. Heck, most guys still swim in t-shirts up here.

    The point of the law in Canada was to make a point that if men and women are to be equal, the law should reflect that. Of course in the US it’s about sex and not equality.

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      Exposed female breasts are legal in BC, or maybe just the greater Vancouver area, and I’ve seen more than a handful of wild, naked, boobies in my time there.

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      The mosquitos alone are gong to keep them covered. As a man, I don’t go without a shirt when outside.

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        Dude. Mosquitos are fucking assholes! I once went hiking in a tshirt and I walked by an area wiyh stagnant water and lots of mosquitos. Guess what was their preferred part to sting? I made a point to have full sleeves after that.

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      3 months ago

      Pretty sure the mosquitos will get you for the remainder.

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    Yeah that’s nice but if I let my moobs free I still get hated on, when’s the oppression gonna end??

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    Boobs aren’t even a turn on for me, but I say don’t let this die in the courtroom, take this to the streets!

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    I lived in Haiti for 3 years where the top of a woman was not considered private. Within 2 months, looking at a woman’s breast was about as exciting as looking at her elbow. Weirdly, they switched back to being sexual after returning to Canada.

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            To be clear, I would expect that if it’s by culture, then it’d be very common to see women walking around topless and nobody pays it much attention.

            Lots of places allow it at a matter of law. There’s been many state Supreme Court cases like the one in OP that say female breasts don’t count towards indecent exposure. Where I live (Madison, WI), those laws only apply to being sexually lewd. Anyone can technically run around naked otherwise, but it’s not something people commonly do outside of the World Naked Bike Ride and protests.

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          At least in Ontario. Women have had the same right as men to go topless anywhere a man would. This is since 1996, I think that’s when that Gretchen lass took it to court.

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      There is an incentive to cover them for women

      When they stop becoming “private parts” they stop having the effect

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      3 months ago

      It’s weird that a man topless is fine for pg movies, even G probably. But a woman topless shoots it right up to R. Though Titanic was PG-13. I assume it was more relaxed at the time?

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        It happened now and then, but it’s mostly because James Cameron gets to do whatever he wants. Any rando director and it’s an R rating. If PG-13 movies get to show a female-presenting nipple at all, like the Fifth Element, they will be very brief, often from the side, and may not even be in focus. They’re probably not using makeup or other techniques to make the nipples stand out.

        Same with Wolf of Wall Street, but on the next level up. Scorsese directs and argues against an NC-17 rating (which is considered a box office death sentence).

        Hollywood is a very nepotistic industry, and the ratings system is no exception. Most of the rules for ratings aren’t even written down. There are unwritten rules that even the general public figures out (like only getting one f-bomb in a PG-13 movie), but they can be cast aside when a major director or producer gets on the phone and causes a fuss.

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        There are quite a few PG-13 where women are topless. Boobs don’t automatically get an R rating. Everything else being equal, I believe it has to be topless in a sexual context to elicit an R rating.

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          There are quite a few PG-13 where women are topless.

          I cannot think of any others… Do you have any examples?

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            There used to be a <1 second time limit in which brief nudity didn’t apply.

            There’s honestly no shortage.

            Here are some examples:

            Saturn 3 (1980) had a little bit

            Airplane! (1980) A woman hops into frame and out of frame completely topless for a second around 45 minutes in.

            Ragtime (1981)

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              I wouldn’t count those, as I suggested things have shifted. I remember watching a 1980s film that was pg at most and considered a kids show with swearing and people flipping the bird.

              I don’t think their is a single movie after Titanic with a full view topless female that isn’t R.

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                suggested things have shifted. I remember watching a 1980s film that was pg at most and considered a kids show with swearing an

                There was a stink when Cameron released Titanic and pushed it through as PG-13, but it got overruled.

                We’ve been getting more and more worried about safety ratings for years, interesting for Minnesota to lead the way back to where most of the rest of the world rests.

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                The Fifth Element (1997)

                The Cider House Rules (1999)

                Something’s Gotta Give (2003)

                Across the Universe (2007)

                The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (2007)

                Passengers (2016)

                Asteroid City (2023)

                All of these are PG-13 and all feature female topless nudity. Just off the top of my head

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      I loved the movement years ago to shop male nipples over female nipples and post the end results. I mean, letter on the law and stuff, right?

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    This is DISGRACEFUL! IMAGINE if a CHILD sees a FEMALE NIPPLE! The DOWNFALL of America is Happening in FRONT of our Eyes!

    -People who Worship School Shooters!