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If we survive this, I absolutely plan to shame them into non-existence.
Shame them now or we may not survive this.
Well, I’m not white so I may also get deported to El Salvador.
Damn, I’m neither white nor male, so same here.
Why not, it helped for many nazis after the second world war. Many got convicted, but also many didn’t.
Soviets had the better idea, they weren’t taking any prisoners
I fully agree, but… this ain’t no shit post.
You’re right. Looks like we were the shit post all along.
The real shitpost was the friends we made along the way 😌
The real post is the shits we took along the way.
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Cross posted shits, every day
And saved the rest of the shits for another day.
A wonderwall of shit, if you will
Yet this post is being upvoted. These communities are just AI slop and Political rants now. Rip.
It is because ice agents are fucking piece of shits. Not even worthy of being called shits more like the stain left over.
WALLS are being chosen
I hope they learn it before this is all over.
The agents that abused their authority need to be punished, but I would be more interested in punishing the people in power that enabled this mess or ignored what was going on.
Please both.
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i like when people say these, but when communists did it we twisted it
Be it Constitutional or vigilante, justice will be served.
If only the universe worked that way
So you are talking about the agents removing illegal people from the country
Shut up, dimwit. They’re illegally kidnapping people that are protected by American law.
Wake the fuck up and learn the facts.
And that was not what I was asking, was it. When Obama deported 3000000 people, where were your camps then. And if people are removed illegally yes that is wrong. But I am to shut up.
The truth is forbidden on the far left, just as it is on the far right. You’re wasting your time explaining.
Yes you are correct, but sometimes I do hope there is someone there. That realize it’s ok to think another way. That is after all, that got the human race were we are today.
Maybe we should lend less credence to a law making certain people illegal that was passed while the Nazis controlled Germany.
Just so we’re clear, this isn’t Truth Social or X. Folks only engage with the bigots and racists here for fun. When it’s done being fun you just get blocked. If that’s an entertaining way for you to conduct yourself online, go right ahead.
It’s ok, take deep breaths and relax ok, it’s going to be all ok
I have found it is useless trying to have discourse with them. I just meow at them. It’s fun and confuses them.
Meow
Meow Meow meow
As a cishet white male in the USA, anyone afraid of being “replaced” should actually be replaced. Net positive for the country.
You don’t even understand , what you are saying. But ok
A person cannot be “illegal.”
But they can be ignorant, bigoted, and hateful. Obviously.
If you ever want to see if you’re on the right side of history, just look at your words:
“Illegal people” is a vile concept.
Well change the constitution and name them what ever you want.
Please cite in the constitution where it calls anyone “illegal.”
Also cite anywhere it states that the rights laid out in the constitution apply specifically to citizens only.
Even if you were to concede that point, which to be clear, I absolutely do not, due process must be extended to everyone in order to know who is a citizen and who is not.
And immigrants here legally as well. And because they’re ignoring due process and habeas corpus, I have no doubt, citizens who committed no crime soon (they’ve already kidnapped citizens and looted citizens homes, but haven’t exiled citizens yet, AFAIK).
Edit: Forgot. Yes, they have already started kidnapping and exiling citizens who are minors.
Thought they had qualified immunity?
Qualified immunity specifically does not apply in cases where someone’s clearly established civil rights were violated, though the criteria for that is specific. Further, it applies only to civil cases, not criminal cases. It may certainly help them in some instances, but it’s not going to be a blanket shield.
1 Was a constitutional right violated?
2 Was the right clearly established at the time of the alleged violation?
https://www.justia.com/civil-rights/government-violations-of-civil-rights/qualified-immunity/
Under this doctrine, government agents—including but not limited to police officers—can never be sued for violating someone’s civil rights, unless they violated “clearly established law.” While this is an amorphous, malleable standard, it generally requires civil rights plaintiffs to show not just a clear legal rule, but a prior case with functionally identical facts.
In other words, it is entirely possible—and quite common—for courts to hold that government agents did violate someone’s rights, but that the victim has no legal remedy, simply because that precise sort of misconduct had not occurred in past cases.
While yes, IANAL, I’m exceptionally doubtful that clearly established constitutional rights aren’t being violated by the behaviors of ICE under Trump, in many, many circumstances.
Oooo that’s cool
IANAA (I am not an American)
This is one of those things that can never be forgiven. There were so many instances of abuse of power.
Too many to not notice
If history is any precedent I think ICE agents will pivot to claiming anti-communism as a defense and be just fine.
The leaders will get nice cushy jobs in Israel as consultants.
It’s pronounced “Ich habe nur Befehle befolgt”
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Mouth-breathing thugs aren’t exactly scientific geniuses though.
Pretty sure the fascists in ICE aren’t the intellectual types who have anything to offer for scientific programs.
Ah yes that old doctrine… Reward the intelligent nazis, punish the dolts.
“Intellectual” is a bit of a stretch, because sure many had degrees, but a lot of the “science” they did was just literal torture with ko scientific method or even recorded results. I have trouble calling that actual science.
Von Braun was part of operation paperclip, and we definitely got an actual scientific benefit from bringing him to the US.
Not only did it work for the Nazis, it the police already have laws on the books for this purpose
I’m sorry. does anyone really believe that?
“in the interest of not causing division we will offer an amnesty to all personnel who assumed orders they got were lawful”
No one said that we were relying on the government to carry out justice.
To be honest if Kamela Harris won, I could have seen her or Biden “Pardoning Trump to let the nation heal”
It’s going to have to be different this time. We let them slide after the Revolution, the Civil War, and WWII, and it has led directly to the mess we are in now.
If we survive this, it will be imperative that there are harsh punishments for ALL leaders, and all middle management. Street level traitors may not end up in prison, but they should be forced to go to political remediation classes, where they will be properly taught about the Constitution, American History, and Critical Thinking Skills. Recalcitrant “students” can have their sentences commuted to long prison sentences if they’d prefer.
Well, the new Constitution by then at least.
