Oh god, it’s real.
Look up who Alec McGuiness played in Lawrence of Arabia.
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Or look at Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany’s. Or Elizabeth Taylor in Cleopatra. Or John Wayne in Gengis Khan.
Or Emma Stone in Aloha, or Max Minghella in The Social Network, or Tilda Swinton in Doctor Strange.
Or Elizabeth Taylor in Cleopatra.
Cleopatra was by ancestry mostly Greek. So I don’t get what you mean.
Most of her subjects weren’t quite “black” either.
Sorry for this interjection, but I hate wrong corrections, especially when they give up cute chains of thought like “queen of (hellenistic, that’s my own addition) Egypt -> Egypt’s in the African continent -> black”.
Yeah, the thing a lot of people seem to miss is just how major of a geographic barrier the Sahara is. As a consequence, northern Africans weren’t generally very black for most of history.
I never said she should’ve been black. But some milktoast British lady is still several shades lighter than any Egyptian in history.
Greek and ME people sometimes look very light. And face powders too exist.
So I wouldn’t say there’s anything too weird with her appearance. I suppose portrayal of Americans in North Korean war films is weirder.
It’s such an insane story that I wonder what the other side of it is. It’s easy to imagine the guy just having got out of a meeting ten minutes earlier with “if you don’t get Julia Roberts into a movie by the end of the week, I’ll see you never work in this town again!” ringing in his ears.
I do not get it. I just see 3 pictures of Tubman.
I want to argue but tbh it was so long ago that I don’t really see a difference
citation needed
Citation is that this is a meme.
Did they not publish their casual conversation for peer review???
This is obviously a perfect role for Ryan Gosling
I think he is already scheduled to star in the MLK movie, so not sure he would have the time
AI Morgan Freeman
Why AI? Wtf, you made me think he died. Don’t do this to me.
Sorry, I meant “motion capture Morgan Freeman”. Harriet Tubman would be CGI of course.
Same as when SNL wanted men to play female politicians in sketches when Amy Poehler and Tina Fey were right there and smashed it in the end.
SNL is comedy, and there’s comedy in using a man to portray a woman. That’s not the same as using the wrong sort of person because you think it doesn’t matter
Ok, you choose a man instead of Tina Fey to play a Sarah Palin and see how much funnier that won’t be.
I choose Alec Baldwin
Tyler Perry?
Fun story - I went to a troubled teen facility, and we had “group.” There was no actual qualifications required for the people running “group.”
We watched Tyler Perry movies. (Also at one point Ip Man which is a goated film.) I learned the phrase “give head” or similar while watching How Did I Get Married. I was asked to think about the lessons that this movie could apply to my interpersonal relationships - I had never considered how the frequency of oral sex would decease after marriage.
Am I the only one who doesn’t know who Harriet Tubman is?
TL;DR, she was an insanely brave black woman who helped a metric fuck ton of slaves escape the south.
Never be afraid to ask a question to rectify a lack of knowledge.
She’s the original free runner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1dhATC-ekQ
Does the phrase “underground railroad” mean anything to you?
…no?
Just adding on to others, they made her a leader you can play as in Civ 7. (This is just a fun fact, obviously she’s important outside of being in a video game.) https://civilization.fandom.com/wiki/Harriet_Tubman_(Civ7)
Here you go. She was a pretty amazing person. If you’re from the US and didn’t learn about her in school, your school failed you.
Okay, Harriet Tubman, born into slavery in the early 1800s, escaped slavery, probably best known today for making 13 trips to the South and guiding 70 slaves on their escape to free states via a system of secret routes, sympathizers and safe houses referred to as The Underground Railroad. Tubman went on to serve as a spy for the Union army during the American civil war, and was a figure in the women’s suffrage movement, surviving into the 20th century.
So, the fact that she was a black woman is kind of important to Harriet Tubman’s lore, and casting Julia Roberts in the role is rather inappropriate.
The Underground Railroad had nothing to do with actual trains, but they used a lot of railroad related terminology as code speak. Trail guides were referred to as “conductors,” safe houses were “stations,” etc. Very little of it was actually underground; I’m sure a few slaves hid in root cellars or caves along the way, but there were no tunnels. Escapees were sometimes carried by boat or train but most traveled on foot and/or by wagon. There’s a sort of folklore image of slaves traveling at night under the cover of darkness, navigating by the North Star. Allegedly, the song “Follow The Drinkin’ Gourd” was a slave song that contained coded instructions for navigating along the Underground Railroad by landmarks along the trail and by using Merak and Dubhe in Ursa Major to identify Polaris…I’m pretty sure this is 20th century embellishment to the story but it’s a prominent visual, kind of like Johnny Appleseed’s pot hat.
This bit of history is taught so widely in American schools that the term “underground railroad” has just become our word for a secret, grassroots network of routes, safe houses and guides for transporting refugees out of danger.
Like the Eurostar
Not everyone is from North America. That is like me asking you, does “Dr. Kwame Nkrumah” mean anything to you?
If only that question was a direct response to someone talking about an American historical figure by name.
does “Dr. Kwame Nkrumah” mean anything to you?
C’mon, there are lots of NBA fans outside of the United States.
Tbh, it should. American educations don’t touch Africa barring a dip into Egypt, which usually compresses the dynasties in a way that does nothing for a deeper understanding. Even as someone with a BA in history, that watched the course listing like a hawk for “history of the Sahel” or “history of the Mali empire” or some lovely 3000-4000 course - nothing.
I should have been taught who Nkrumah was. And Léopold Senghor, and Kenyatta…
Instead, I lean on The Fate of Africa by Martin Meredith. Which is a good book, but by a journalist, not a historian.
We call it the subway or the metro nowadays.
Probably not, but she’s an important figure of the American history. The real question, though, is who will know about Harriet Tubman in a few years, once she gets erased from American history books.
At least people will be able to remember she looked like Julia Roberts
Elon Musk will build The Above Ground Railroad to save white South African immigrants from the tyranny of paying taxes.
The Above Ground Hyperloop
Relevant picture
Yeah, she died in 1913, if she has not been erased in 112 years, and with people still wanting to make a movie about her…
Perhaps you may be leaning into conspiracy theories and are fear mongering yourself and others. Stop it.
Here, from Wikipedia:
Parks, monuments, and historical sites
National parks and national monuments related to Tubman in the United States are the Harriet Tubman Underground Railroad National Monument and the Harriet Tubman Underground Railroad National Historical Park, both in Maryland,[215] and the Harriet Tubman National Historical Park in Auburn.[216] The Salem Chapel in St. Catharines, Canada where Tubman worshipped, is a National Historic Site of Canada.[217]
The city of Auburn, New York has several historical sites related to Tubman, including her gravesite.[218][219] Other state and local historical sites about Tubman include the Harriet Tubman Underground Railroad State Park[220] and the Harriet Tubman Memorial Garden[221] in Maryland, and the Harriet Tubman Museum is in New Jersey.[222]
Artistic portrayals
Tubman is the subject of many works of art. Musicians including Woody Guthrie, Wynton Marsalis, and Walter Robinson have written songs celebrating her.[223] She is the subject of operas by Thea Musgrave,[224] Nkeiru Okoye,[225] and Hilda Paredes,[226] as well as plays by Carolyn Gage and a collaboration of May Miller and Willis Richardson.[227] Tubman is the focus of novels by Elizabeth Cobbs,[228] Marcy Heidish,[229] Anne Parrish,[230] and Bob the Drag Queen,[231] and is a character in novels by Terry Bisson,[232] Ta-Nehisi Coates,[233] and James McBride.[234]
Since Tubman’s life was first dramatized on television in a 1963 episode of the series The Great Adventure,[235] she has been portrayed in TV productions such as The Good Lord Bird,[236] Timeless,[237] Underground,[236] and A Woman Called Moses.[238] Cynthia Erivo received an Academy Award nomination for portraying Tubman in the 2019 biographical film Harriet.[239]
Dozens of schools,[247] streets and highways,[248] church groups, social organizations, and government agencies have been named after Tubman.[249] In 1944, the United States Maritime Commission launched the SS Harriet Tubman, its first Liberty ship named for a black woman.[211]
On November 11, 2024, Tubman was posthumously commissioned as a one-star general in the Maryland National Guard in recognition of her military service during the Civil War.[250]
Edit: Look at the people downvoting this pro-Tubman post. LOL
First and foremost, you are side stepping my comment. She ain’t getting “erased.” You could admit to just being wrong there. Instead of moving the goal post.
First link: They are removing DEI stuff from NASA. We do not have to insert DEI into everything if it is not merited. They are not trying to “erase” people from history. DEI is based on political ideology that tends to be performative rather actually useful. Look at all the corporations that claims to support LGBT issues in the USA but say and do nothing in Muslim countries? Why? Because it is all a grift that people in the USA and other countries fall for. Search about the missing money from BLM, Something like half of the 90+ million is just gone. Mostly in houses, salaries to friends, family and crazy lifestyles, travelling. Up here in Toronto, the head of BLM embezzled like $100,000 from York University. Then claimed racism when they took her to court, backtracked that claim the day before the court date and said she would try to pay it back as a way to avoid possible jail. Merited credit is good, Tubman is not going anywhere.
Second link: They are returning the stuff to their rightful owners. They could just donate the items, if they wanted to and care so much about the history. As they claim. If it was part of the collection it would be up on display.
That’s not even close to a thought out response, just reactive defense of the current administration fascistic policies and desire to erase history.
Is it normal that they are removing women from military history?
Does the boot leather taste that great?
Source of your link:
“One official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to provide details that have not been made public, said the purge could delete as many as 100,000 images or posts in total, when considering social media pages and other websites that are also being culled for DEI content. The official said it’s not clear if the database has been finalized.”
Do you have an actual source and not fear mongering? I think you seem to lack understanding on what “erasure,” actually means. No one is hiding or destroying anything.
Also, what you are saying is that I was correct with Tubman or you are still cannot admit to being wrong or are you going to just move the goal post again, Friend? As hominems just prove my point, as you would not resort to those.
I mean, people can down vote me all they want, but we both know you were wrong. LOL
You really don’t think the American administration is trying to erase the contributions of Tubman and other black people? Since you’re so well informed, I’d genuinely like to hear what you think their aims are.
PS. I’m also sceptical that the American right wing can accomplish everything they want from project 2025. But even attempting is chilling, and they really do have a lot of momentum. Good people are naturally nervous about that, since the official opposition is not, IMO, ideologically equipped to combat them.
screenshot of NPS.gov page on Underground Railroad on Jan 21st and on March 19th. Please explain me what happened here.
Good stuff. Thanks for sharing!
Hmmm so you need woman of colour? Maybe Gal Gadot? /s
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If Hollywood ever did a film about Gaza they would unironically use Gal Godot in the role of a Palestinian woman.
It also be “both sides have something to learn from each other!” Oscar bait a la Crash or Green Book.
Ughhhhhhh. Green Book was okay, I liked it, but BlackkKlansman was right there. I shouldn’t be surprised they picked the less punchy of the two, but I’m still annoyed.
The best part of BlackkKlansman was that I watched it with two literal billionaires who most assuredly voted for Trump 3 times. I got to feel their reaction to that ending montage. Thank you for the reminder.
tf is your life lol. That’s crazy. I really hope it made them at least somewhat more empathetic. I don’t think anyone is ever too far gone for change, but I also don’t have much hope that billionaires will change.
I was going to suggest that it would be done with lots of tearful emotion, but then I remembered that Gal can’t actually act, so maybe it would be more of a “after saying the words, turning and looking towards the horizon in an heroic pose” medium shot moving into a panorama showing little children in the background.
(With the right music to pull people’s emotional strings, obviously)
No doubt with lines like “They only hate Israel because of their religion” and “The IDF is protecting me, despite being Palestinian”
“Israel is saving Palestinians like me from the Hamas terrorist regime”
Halle Berry though… 🤔
Kevin Hart.
Martin Lawrence would rock it in “Big Tubman’s House”
I’m going to hell for this upvote.
Would have been a better role than catwoman
I’m a top exec for a very big movie company and I hear you on this. No more Julia Roberts. Got it. Roberts out, Catwoman in. …
Someone get me Michelle Pfeiffer on the phone. I have a great idea, Catwoman as Harry Tubmen.
That’s an Oscar winner, right there.
The article led me down a rabbit hole leading to an article about the ghost in the shell movie adaptation promo meme generator being used to criticise the whitewashing in the movie adaptation
Fuck whitewashing
They should get Lisa Kudrow to play Rosa Parks.
Conan O’Brien as Desmond Tutu.
Rose O’Donnell as George Washington Carver.
Hollywood Executives can collectively only name at most seven actors at a given time. An entire nine-digit annual industry run by a bunch of coked-up goldfish.
All of these large industries are run by idiots
They’re run by the same average people who work for them. You don’t need to be an idiot to fuck up running something as large and complicated as a trans-national corporation. You don’t need to be a genius to coast in a position that already prints money.
We’re simply not that different from one another. The genius/idiot dichotomy is far more about variances in education, culture, and propagandized bigotry than finding actual differences in intellect.
Queue Dave Chappelle and his sketch ‘Negrodamas’
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I predict a movie called The Last Black Man on Earth, starring Tom Hanks
Thanks for sharing! Had no idea NASSA existed 🫡
I mean, if its a documentary on the last black man on earth, it couldn’t actually be played by a black man.
Unless it was produced in space, or on another planet, I suppose.
Have you considered that
(a) documentaries do not need actors, and
(b) if they did, the last black man earth could star as himself?
(a) Then how did Tom Hanks get involved? “Starring actor” was included in the premise.
(b) If he knows he’s the last black man on earth, sure. But that would suggest a predictable, but unavoidable tragedy, known months in advance to give enough time to actually produce the movie.
Reminds me of the bit at the end of Deadpool when he says they were considering Keira Kightly for Cable because she has range.
