I want Quintin Tarantino to work with the people who made the 2011 Hanna movie.
Instead of Christoph Waltz finding and killing Jews, it’s a demon child finding and killing Nazis.
Similar to Becky? Who would have thought that Kevin James would play a Nazi so well.
Damn, we need a few thousand clones of her, asap. Nazis everywhere lately. Although they started to come back right around the time she died. Makes you wonder.
Good advice for anyone interested in fighting fascism really.
It’s not a movie because the wealthy don’t want people getting ideas.
According to IMDb, it’s in preproduction. I’m not sure how accurate it is, but it lists the director and writers.
The Red Head https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29931730/
The story of three young girls in World War II, Hannie Schaft, Truus and Freddie Oversteegen, who are inducted into the Dutch resistance to assassinate Nazis and Nazi collaborators.
Because the superhero movies are thinly veiled propaganda for billionaire exceptionalism. Empowering the average person is disruptive to your peasant caste you’re not allowed to talk about openly. It is such an engrained cultural taboo you can’t even register what I am saying as real, despite it being so obvious that there are classes of people completely disassociated with life as you know and live it. The only exceptional people are the exceptionally greedy and exceptionally unethical. Ms. Oversteegen is a hero like Luigi, someone that stands above our station in life. Such stories are not told or popularized much at all.
There’s one ad I saw where someone asks one guy riding a fancy car, “So what’s your super power?” and the guy replies with, “Being rich” and the immediate cuts to epic action scenes. Just a tiny bit on the nose. 🙄
Empowering the average person is disruptive to your peasant caste
Interestingly enough, I think it’s more useful to make people want to be and believe they can be rich. They’ll actively defend the wealthy if they see them as future peers. I mean, I think that’s why even lowly MAGAts defend tax breaks for the rich even if very few of them make over 100k.
That’s Batman’s superpower. Affleck is the Batman that says it.
His wealth increases every incarnation, essentially his wealth implied to be extreme, even by our standards. And one of the things he’s constantly questioned about is if his funds are going to things that have real outcomes.
He, himself, is a vigilante capable of forensics that police are unwilling or unable to do. And throughout the comics, at least the modern ones, it often talks about how his lawlessness is a problem, and his approach at crime fighting is entirely flawed and has extreme consequences for only adhering to his line of never killing.
To say that comics are thinly veiled propaganda is of billionaires is disingenuous to the entire medium. It would like be calling sci-fi thinly veiled propaganda that the elite consists of scientists making up words.
To say that comics are thinly veiled propaganda
Oh, not at all! The civil rights underwriting for all the comics is unmistakable.
My comment was more about the video ad alone and how egregious it was and yet everyone down in the comments ate that up. I felt so uncomfortable reading them.
Comics can also be empowering to the downtrodden.
Americans can’t handle a bare nipple. That’s the reason.
Who says she had to undress even once?
Where was she hiding the gun if she ever did undress… So she likely never did.
It all makes sense now. US can’t abide naked people because there’s no place for them to stow a weapon.
Because she’s a revolutionary, and Batman is a billionaire defending the status quo. You can’t have people being inspired into revolution.
Because superhero movies tend to have a solid ROI, which is why they get made: to make already rich dudes even richer. How do you plan to flesh out your seductresses Nazi assassin movie idea other than “she seduces Nazis and assassinates them” and still be a box office hit?
Find or be a good writer, get a decent script, and if you can convince enough movie executives that they’ll make bank off of it, your idea might stand a chance.
Directed by Quentin Tarantino.
The face that shot a hundred Nazis.
For patriarchy to work it’s really really important women are taught to be afraid of sexuality explicitly so we don’t weaponize it against men because they’re insanely vulnerable to it
Hard to draw out repeatedly flirting with nazis and killing them
The movie would suck as they try to tie in a love interest and plot
Hard to draw out repeatedly flirting with nazis and killing them
Would you need to? Watching someone repeatedly kill stupid horny nazis doesn’t seem like it would get old.
I would do a super cut of every Nazi death and loop it.
Just gonna point out that she shot them.
So I’m thinking something along the lines of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxTtbHmCNiQ
… fuck me they’d humanize one of the Nazis
… you do realize Nazis were humans, right?
This is literally one of the most important lessons from Nazism. That anyone, any normal human, loving father, mother, son, can become a monster if the circumstances are right.
God, no wonder fascism is on the rise again if the lessons of it were forgotten.
Im pretty sure between middle school and undergrad I had to learn about the Stanford prison experiment no less than 15 times. Im surprised more people dont consider that aspect of psychology
God, no wonder fascism is on the rise again if the lessons of it were God, no wonder fascism is on the rise again if the lessons of it were forgotten.
… first off wow my dude kinda aggro, but what about the lessons of language?
to make something more pleasant or suitable for people; to make something more humane
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/humanize
Maybe the the wrong word. Maybe they should have said they would make one sympathetic?
Good. They should make them seem as human and sympathetic as possible, show the entire slide of emotional manipulation that made otherwise normal people adopt a narrative and made them believe themselves doing right and good as they did atrocities or stood by while their leaders and peers did atrocities.
And then kill 'em anyway. Because there are consequences for being dumb, and we don’t show that enough.
That would work for people like you or me. Unfortunately, there seems to be a mass of people who have no idea how to make the distinction that surface level niceness means nothing, and mean people can be mean for good reasons.
I’m not sure. That could actually be a nice Idea.
Make the audience sympathise with the Nazi, maybe even identify with him. Then show his gruesome actions. All while having him remain being a wonderful father/brother/whatever.
This stark contrast, this shock might help them realize that everyone, even them, are prone to falling for fascism and cause them to think about their relationship with this most gruesome of ideologies. It might show them that Nazism doesn’t come from the outside and occupies the country but that instead it comes from the inside, form ourselves, our neighbours and our family members, whom we never would think it possible of.
Or, because the US has shit media literacy, they come away thinking “see? Nazis weren’t monsters after all” and go to their next rally.
The only reason the “nazis weren’t monsters” narrative is still alive and well is because we broadly didn’t show them as humans who made stupid, horrible mistakes from the very beginning. We didn’t drive home the point that your ignorance is still deserving of the harshest of consequences. We are too afraid of offending someone or making someone feel bad for being dumb that we have allowed ignorance to have as much value as virtue.
The only reason we have people being led astray by people like Trump and Kanye and his ilk right now is because we are all so scared to show moral complexity and human vulnerabilities that we painted nazis like cartoon bad-guys. Which some were, sure, just like there are cartoon bad guys right now pushing millions of otherwise normal, if not ignorant, people to support horrible ideas.
Why are we so afraid to show that letting yourself be led into horrible ideas can still earn you a hangman’s noose or whatever the modern equivalent is?
I get your argument, but take the recent Dune movies. Paul Atreides is meant to be a subtle villain. Most viewers simply never realised that at all.
Man in the High Castle did this well
I’m struggling to keep watching mid season 3. Should I push through to the end?
I didn’t struggle to finish the series however the last season was better than the third season in my estimations
Worth it.
They should. And then kill 'em anyway.
That is the lesson we all needed to learn and ignored. They were humans, they thought they were good and doing right.
We are all equally vulnerable of falling into human biases and ignorance and doing horrific things if we allow people in power to manipulate our emotions. We need more stories about relatable, understandable humans doing absolutely fucked up shit because they went along with the narratives and then facing consequences for it.
There’s plenty to go on. It’s not like they had no life except flirting with and executing nazis.
Excerpt from the wp page:
During World War II, the Oversteegen family hid a Jewish couple in their home.[3] Freddie Oversteegen and her older sister Truus began handing out anti-Nazi pamphlets, which attracted the notice of HaarlemCouncil of Resistance commander Frans van der Wiel. With their mother’s permission, the girls joined the Council of Resistance, which brought them into a coordinated effort.[2]Freddie was fourteen years old at the time.[3][4]
Oversteegen, her sister, and friend Hannie Schaft worked to sabotage the Nazi military presence in the Netherlands.[5] They used dynamite to disable bridges and railroad tracks.[6] They also smuggled Jewish children out of the country or helped them escape concentration camps.[2]
The Oversteegens and Schaft also killed German soldiers, with Freddie being the first of the girls to kill a soldier by shooting him while riding her bicycle.[1][5] They also lured soldiers to the woods under the pretense of a romantic overture and then killed them.[1][5]Oversteegen would approach the soldiers in taverns and bars and ask them to “go for a stroll” in the forest.[2][5]
Yes.
Exactly!
SS meaning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzstaffel
