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She’s what gives me hope for my generation.
Wishing them success next time
Shes an amazing young lady. Hope its a safe trip. 🙏
It’s clear that the israelis are free to murder who they like. Only the risk of negative publicity dissuades them and since most corporate media is Zionist supporting, this really makes everyone who stands up to these monsters a potential target.
israel is concerned about losing the support of the west, after trump called for ceasefire and started make deals with saudis and Qatar
Only the risk of negative publicity dissuades them
What? Killing journalists, medics and shooting at diplomats is positive publicity?
No of course not but these killings tend to be swept under the rug by the media or get drowned out in the sea of atrocities being committed.
Somebody like Greta being killed would cause a media storm which is why I don’t think the Zios would try as much as they would like to. Killing female activists is a specialty. See Rachel Corrie.
See Rachel Corrie.
Which i hadn’t known about until today.
I’m scared for her.
There is dying, and there is dying a good death.
Greta Thunberg will die a good death. And Thurberg will be one of the few of us that our descendants can point to show that humanity had at least one fan.
Her actions are guarantee to that.
Odin would certainly smile upon her should a tragedy happen. She and her comrades certainly are brave
I’m monitoring that bloat in a online tracker, I’m stressed too.
if a fraction of us were a fraction of her the would be a much better place.
How can I monitor her too?
i think it’s the right ship
Damn, that is not a big boat and could easily be destroyed. Cool website and god speed to Greta.
it’s not a war ship.
sadly, i wonder how much supplies it can carry. even if it’s little, it’s worth it in a famine.
Pls fix these typos lol I agree with your message tho
Poor girl, I hope she lives through this.
Why the use of the word “poor”? She’s being brave as hell and using her publicity in a very productive manner.
Not really a girl anymore either. She’s an adult. She is a woman.
Please don’t ask me to explain my use of english 🙈
I hope for the best, but I know how this world works. Her death will not move mountains, just add another name to the list of innocent people that have died from this “conflict”. It will be a blip across the screen for maybe a day, and then the next horrible thing will happen to take it’s place.
Thank you for the explanation. I don’t think you’re wrong, but I do think you underestimate the protective power of name recognition. It’s stupid it works this way, but simply by being there she offers some additional protection to all the other brave individuals participating and thus reduces the chances that they all become names on that list.
I wish others in her position could realize that fact and be brave enough to put themselves in harms way to reduce the risk us mere mortals face.
Waaa look at mee i make entire comments over semantics!
I’d encourage you to read the reply from SassyRamen and the subsequent discussion there. It’s not about being “semantically correct” it’s about understanding.
I understand why people are pedants
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technical correctness is the best kind.
And she’s hardly poor for sure.
Hey, someone trying to do something that isn’t for themselves. No wonder conservatives hate her guts.
This is so dangerous and dumb. So much risk for what seems to me as no gain.
She will help more people alive than dead.
Okay, that’s definitely suicidal though. Like, is she actually expecting to get through? The Israelis are executing medics and children over there.
I don’t think the expectation is they will get through. The goal is to create a scandal that will increase international attention and pressure to make them stop.
If they hurt Greta I predict there will be a lot of backlash due to her fame and popularity.
Also a great way to interconnect the climate and Palestinian struggles
Hasn’t her fame faded a bunch in recent years though?
Also, if executing medics, responders and children won’t cause a scandal, this won’t.
The media stopped reporting on her for the most part. She’s still going strong for the people paying attention
I wish I could agree with you, but the situation in Gaza looks more and more like something we’ve seen before. After the end of World War 2, the world reacted with shock at what had been done to the Jews - murder has never been committed on such a grand scale and in such organized fashion. Jews had been dehumanised in public long before, being equated to rats and other vermin. The Zionists currently holding on to power in Israel are using the same kind of rhetoric against Palestinians. However, one difference between then and now is that the Rwanda genocide taught us that the world is entirely capable of sitting back and watch the horror unfold, even though we’re all fully informed of what’s going on. A ship of brave volunteers being sunk would cause a stern letter or at best sanctions. Israel can act with utter impunity as long as they’re backed by their big brother Uncle Sam.
Israel can act with utter impunity as long as they’re backed by their big brother Uncle Sam.
What is to be done? In WW2, partisans helped stop the holocaust. Palestine is such a controlled area, far from the homes of most of us, it feels like there is no action that we can do to even slow the murder we are watching, while our governments cheer it on. So it’s not surprising when people start shooting Israeli embassy staff or attacking anything connected to Israel they can find.
I don’t think people want to sit back, this violence strikes a chord in anyone with empathy for innocent people. We can’t directly stop the IDF, but there are people, companies and manufacturers in many countries that are supporting this. We need to stop the supply of weapons and components at their source, most of which comes from the US.
And the American arms industry is the backbone of the military industrial complex, bringing in vast amounts of money to the US every year. The world’s biggest arms exporter can only benefit from someone else’s war. Without that industry, my guess is the United States treasury would become completely overwhelmed by their sovereign debt and collapse very quickly, so the government on either side of the aisle will protect it with all their might.
I don’t think sinking this aid vessel would do anything to change the public conversation. The people who are aware already either condemn Israel or support the genocide. The unaware will not care about a handful more dead innocents.
The bottom line is that Israel is openly and proudly committing atrocities and the international community is not willing to stop it. Only a military intervention could dissuade the IDF.
Stop giving Israel weapons that enable them to commit their murders, and they’ll stop.
Publicly murdering a well-known pretty white girl is the kind of thing that might get the public on-board with military intervention
“she shouldn’t have been there anyways”, “must have been the houthis with their magic long-range rockets”, etc etc.
Good on her for standing up to what she believes in… but I don’t really see it changing anyone’s opinions if she’s unfortunately murdered, but I hope I’m just pessimistic.
If they hurt Greta I predict there will be a lot of backlash due to her fame and popularity.
There will be a lot of “thoughts and prayers”, a lot of “how dare you”, also lots of “this is a diplomatic incident” sprinkled with maybe sanctions if ever… and that’s it, just words.
I hope i’m wrong.
I keep imagining Israeli soldiers screaming “it’s anti semetic!” just like South Park “It’s coming right for us!” to excuse every hail of bullets.
Let’s not call being ready to give your life for a cause being suicidal. Desperate, sure, but not that
The amount of stuff she’s been involved in she definitely has main character syndrome and fully believes this’ll work out well.
I don’t want it to sound like im belittling the effort. Its brave as all shit and the best cause I can think of, but still.
Imagine sitting on a bus and looking at a woman who refuses to move to give up her seat and thinking “man, she must have main character syndrome”. If only we had you back there to diagnose her, maybe history would be different now.
Yeah wo/mxn imagine having a time machine
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Pretty wildly demeaning to take someone doing something brave and putting her body on the line for people in need as “main character syndrome”. What have you done lately?
I agree. Thunberg is a real hero. I feel like a coward in comparison. We owe it to the people standing up and fighting back
What have you done lately?
what they have done lately has zero effect on whether the discussed move is smart or not. that is not how stuff works.
We were not talking smart or not, the discussion was about main character syndrom/brave.
brave
I was talking about the fact that “what have you done” is childish effort to protect yourself from an argument.
and there is thin line between brave and stupid. only the person with main character syndrom will try to shield a grenade with their body hoping the plot armor will protect them.
Some people are willing to die for others. They don’t think they have plot armor, they are aware that they will probably die. It’s not stupidity, it’s bravery. I find it sad that people tend to belittle this kind of action.
they are aware that they will probably die. It’s not stupidity, it’s bravery.
if you expect to die and still go through with your plan, that it is the definition of stupidity. if you think you are so important that your death will move millions and finally change things, that is the main character syndrome that is being discussed.
in reality, she will get two news cycles and that will be it. nothing will be changed and she will be dead. if she really wants to do something, it is much smarter to do anything where she does not die in the process.
This has wildly more impact than anything you’re doing and what most people like you are doing (voting for more genocide)
So when someone doesnt vote they’re the problem, and when they do vote they’re the problem?
How’s the average person supposed to do anything?
Nobody said either of those
It was the part where they said (voting for more genocide) that made me think they said either of those. Sorry. I’ll work on my reading comprehension I guess.
oh no. i didn’t give up to logical fallacy so now i am voting for a genocide? now that is some debate championship stuff. how was kindergarten today?
Wow because someone wants to get of their ass and do something to try to better the world they have main character syndrome. Well then I wish more people had it so they could get off their lazy asses and try to better the world.
No i was more thinking that because she’s become the face of planetary eco-warriorism she’ll have started to internalise the concept that she has plot armor. Which isn’t real in real life.
That is happening entirely in your head, not reality
Maybe it will work out. You know what won’t though? You doing nothing and very much belittling her on the Internet.
Im just saying nobody with all their marbles would seriously believe it will end in anything but their own death.
They may just block the ships with warning shots or board and capture them.
But considering how blind with power and impunity they’ve been as of late… yeah the kid’s soon to be dead.
Following the incident, an Israeli military investigation concluded that Corrie’s death was the result of an accident and that the bulldozer operator had limited visibility.
We investigated ourselves and found that we didn’t murderl her, and that we aren’t committing genocide. Hurray!
Guess that’ll be a similar page for Greta soon and 20 years later someone will post that and a lot will comment back with “Who?”.
She already has a page, it will be a larger section on her many achievements.
Damn, I never heard of her before, thank you for sharing
They celebrate her death in Israel by making pancakes.
Deeply unwell society.
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Big respect.
I have a lot of respect for her and the people doing this. But I wish they wouldn’t. This sounds like a Suicide Mission.
That’s why very few people are able to do what she’s doing, and why she’s extremely brave to leverage that: she announced that’s her ship, where she is and why she is there. Killing Greta would be the kind of media storm that Israel would not want to deal with, especially given their strategy of pretending criticism of peaceful beautiful Israel = being an antisemitic ass. Hard to keep this false dichotomy if you kill a generational icon.
You sure live in a beautiful dream world
Israel has violated a ceasefire at least 3 times. They Blockes off AId, killed Journalist, even kidnapped one and returned it without Organs. But you think a human rights activist that most right wingers consider a Terrorist will somehow make headlines?
She is insanely clever, courageous, and selfless playing chicken with the state of Israel like this. She knows that either she succeeds in delivering aid to Palestine, or her death sparks a backlash that could be the tipping point for the rest of the world to get off their ass and do something.
Israel is a heartless genocidal monster of a nation. It doesn’t give two shits for any “generational icon” and the US has already voiced support for drowning her. This is the worst timeline and icons don’t matter to power.
There’s an entire world out there beyond Israel and the US.
And as I said, hope they do something about it
It’s not about what Israel cares about. She’s an EU citizen of high repute and good money. Someone’s gonna care if she dies to Israeli weaponry
Here’s hoping Israel doesn’t murder her and here’s hoping there are actual consequences if they do.
“Hamas did it.”
“Oh, very well then”
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They’d blame it on Hamas
I don’t think it’ll work now. If Piers Morgan has flipped it means that the mainstream people are anti Zionists now.
Some. But there’s still a long ways to go, sadly.
Yeah there’s a part of me that really didn’t want him to do that because now I have to like something about that prat
She’s not the first to try. Israel doesn’t want a repeat of the Gaza Freedom Flotilla from 2010. Israel will sabotage her boat so she can’t sail. Greta won‘t get anywhere near Gaza.
Breaching a naval blockade in times of war is very serious business.
but by placing notable people in there (who are genuinely risking their lives) will bring more attention, deter an attack, and bring so much more attention if there’s one.
True bravery is using yourself as a human shield. unlike the mosquito protocol
You hope. It isn’t the ones who know who you are that push the button. You hope…
Omg she is gonna get herself killed
Omg
sheIsrael is gonnaget herselfkilledherStill it’s pretty probable when you go over there and I always liked her so that sucks
It’s about framing for me. Too much blaming the children not enough blaming the Israeli Drone Smart Bomb (brought to you by the US Government & Microsoft).
Not to mention all the people already talking about her in the past tense.
