Come on stroke!

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    Wait. You’re telling me that people in their late 70s early 80s don’t make for great presidents??

    No way. 😐

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        Some fare better than others. But anyone in the 70s to 80s is at such a higher risk of some event that takes them out of commission than usual and we have over 60 million people to look at, surely we don’t have to settle for people that have a risk of disrupting the office.

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            Joe Biden stepped down knowing he wouldn’t be able to service as president due to his health and age.

            Bernie Sanders on his deathbed most definitely would not make a better president than Trump because he’d be dying.

            What kind of ridiculous logic is that?

            I’m glad you don’t like Trump I don’t like Trump either but replacing him with another old white guy isn’t the solution.

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            I love Bernie. He’s a lovable dude. That seems to be the sole reason he keeps getting elected. He’s in his eighties, and despite all his lovely words and many, many years in politics, what actual tangible improvements to American life has he actually been instrumental in achieving? Because it looks pretty light on the ground to me. His time has probably passed.

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          It does though. And increasingly this will change with time such that human ages skew older, so I will remain flexible on that number when it comes to who I think is capable of holding various offices.

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            I remember a Ted Talk, and this was probably 15 years ago, where the presenter claimed that the first person to live to 200 was alive ‘right now’. There was no mention of what kind of person would need to cling to life above all else to be willing to undergo such treatments, and how much wealth and power they could accumulate in that time. I’m sure it’ll be fine.

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              For the parasitic idle rich, they typically set up foundations and the like to shelter their wealth for their descendants. Not sure it will be all that much different in the wealth accumulation. I’m sure there will be many, many broad societal changes if people start living a whole lot longer. No question about that.

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        It really doesn’t at that age. Let the old folks rest, for fuck’s sake.

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          But why though? If someone is still good at the job, there is no reason for them to take up shuffleboard and golf and retire, in my view. Not unless they want to.

          Also, I still contend all this pearl-clutching over the number of times someone has been around the sun will not age all that well, ironically.

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            If there is minimum age limit to become president, then why is there no maximum age limit? This is gerontocracy at best.

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            Somewhere in between wasting away in a retirement home, and running one of the most heavily armed nations on Earth, there’s probably a happy medium to keep them occupied if they so desire. I know I wouldn’t want to still be working at that age. I can barely tolerate it now.

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    I want him to fall into the pits of hell, but before he does, his scorched, cheeto dust fingers breech the surface one last time to curl around Vance’s pant leg, dragging him down with him.

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    They’ll just wheel him around like they did with Alzheimer’s Reagan in the 80s. Anything to keep up doing the most evil shit they can think of without repercussions

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        If that 19 year old kid had better aim, we wouldn’t be in this situation. The other day I saw a guy in a coffee shop wearing a tshirt with a picture of Trump the day he was “shot” with his hand in the air. I wanted to comment, “Nice shirt. That was a messed up day. What was the name of the guy that died that day?”

        I guarantee this mother fucker has not a clue who Corey Comperatore is and they don’t give a shit either.

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      Sadly, the grim reaper pulled the actress that played Houlihan on mash out of the claw machine instead of trump.

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      I don’t know if even death will. Maybe he stops making public appearances for “national security reasons” and only communicates through video broadcasts. Anyone who notices something is slightly off about them, like frames where he has extra fingers or nonsense text on the papers on his desk is called a conspiracy theorist, and to shut up and celebrate the Dear Leader’s 170th birthday.

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        Anyone who notices something is slightly off about them, like frames where he has extra fingers or nonsense text on the papers on his desk is called a conspiracy theorist, and to shut up and celebrate the Dear Leader’s 170th birthday.

        The year is 2117. Either…

        A: AI still can’t generate video without a bunch of fucky artifacts.

        B: The Trump administration is still using janky AI from the 2020s, even though better options exist.

        Both sound plausible.

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        nonsense text on the papers on his desk

        I mean this wouldn’t necessarily indicate AI in this case

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    Wish all you want that Trump preferably dies soon but it doesn’t matter. He is merely the punching bag and front for the real rulers: the oligarchs. They will only prop up someone else as the fall guy, while they steal every fibre, life and soul of everything they touches.

    I can’t wait for corporate fascism! Enclave when?! /s

    But seriously, America wants to speedrun to corporate fascism (Thiel and Musk are accelerationists after all). But even without this speed running, corpo-fascism is only the logical conclusion of America’s deranged obsession and worshipping of capitalism.

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    I’m NOT a Snowflake and NEITHER is Trump but that man NEEDS to be DEPORTED because that’s a Mean Thing to SAY!

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      Your snark is coming right along. For inspiration, Google the great “Ghost Of Eustace Tilley.” The master snarkster of the whole damn intertubes.

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    The problem is that he’s always been a stupid, self-important blowhard that tells rambling, pointless stories, so his incoherence is less pronounced. Biden, for all his faults, was a great orator and debator, even around 2016 to 2018, so his drop-off in the last five years was a stark shift.

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    Trump dying sounds good until you consider he’ll be replaced by JD Vance

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      I don’t want Trump to die. I want him just in the edge of mental degradation so there’s a constitutional crisis. GQP will hesitate to 24A him cause MAGA would revolt. It would be an extremely lame duck presidency.

      I want Trump to live long and quiet enough that he’s forgotten.

      I want him to survive a Cat-5 hurricane that destroys Mar-a-Lago.

      I want him to drool uncontrollably in a wheelchair while they take down his name down from buildings and golf resorts and turn them into shelters for the homeless and asylum seekers.

      I want all his sons turn into Viserys III Targaryen, paupers and laughing stocks that people entertain out of pity, not respect.

      I want him to live a long life in interesting times.

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        Your ears you keep and I’ll tell you why. So that every shriek of every child at seeing your hideousness will be yours to cherish. Every babe that weeps at your approach, every woman who cries out, “Dear God! What is that thing,” will echo in your perfect ears. That is what “to the pain means.” It means I leave you in anguish, wallowing in freakish misery forever.

        That sounds delightful.

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        It would be an extremely lame duck presidency.

        It already is. Haven’t you seen him sign those executive orders and it’s immediately apparent he’s never seen or read it before that moment? He doesn’t have any clue what he’s going to sign before they put the paper in front of him.

        Trump is in the White House for two reasons- make himself richer and avoid prosecution for his crimes. Everything else that’s happening is being masterminded by someone else. Smart money is on Stephen Miller.

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          It’s one part Stephen Miller one part Heritage foundation.

          I believe it was Steve Bannon that previously referred to Trump as an “empty vessel.” These people promise him the chance to grift to his hearts content and they pour their agenda into him.

          His whole Biden auto pen thing is more fucking projection… He has very little idea what he is signing, he’s just signing off heritage foundation wishlists and going about his day shitting himself and yelling at people.

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        Oh so you want the actual autopen presidency to continue

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          Gtfo of here with stupid MAGA-speak and come back when you can formulate your own criticisms instead of just parroting this low effort ‘talking point’ shit you’ve been given

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            It’s not a low effort talking point given to anyone. I made the same comment in another section of the thread thinking it was somewhat original. If he’s mindlessly signing what is put in front of him then it’s no different than an automated signature by a mindless machine.

            The reference is to point out the hypocrisy of Republicans claiming Bidens use of auto pen meant he didn’t know about or care about what he was signing and was too unwell or careless to do it himself, and then we have Trump, albeit physically there signing the things, mentally checked out so he’s not doing anything particularly different than what crap the Republicans were saying before. Unless I’m misunderstanding it, it’s just a statement on Republican hypocrisy.

            I think it fits well.

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        I think they’d Weekend at Bernie’s him to pass the worst legislation you’ve ever heard of.

        If it’s unpopular Trump gets the blame and he’s too incapacitated and impotent to lash out at them.

        Basically what Trump accused the Biden admin of doing.

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        That would be the main hope, that once Trump’s “charisma” is taken out of the picture, MAGA might start to lose enthusiasm. But it would take some time for the MAGA momentum to wind down, and the authoritarians-in-waiting would be keen to consolidate power quickly and insulate themselves against the opinions of the masses. So then the next hope is that they all start fighting among themselves so hard that the damage any of them can do is limited.

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      JD Vance is garbage, buuut… he’s just another horrible GOP person, really. The thing that made people afraid to resist Trump was his cult-like base. They’ve tried multiple successors, and no one has even come close to capturing the same unconditional love of this racist moron by those pieces of shit as Trump. If we as a country have a final chance we don’t deserve, it’s Trump dying from his beloved “hamberders”…

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      “Trump is going to die any day now” is a thing people were posting in 2018. It’s a thing people were posting about Vladimir Putin in 2018.

      It’s all court gossip and click bait bullshit.

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      I’m not too sure. Sure, he’s VP but he’s also not that popular with MAGA. If Trump would go (in whatever way possible) I’m sure it’ll lead to infighting.

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      JD Vance doesn’t have the following or the charisma to pull off the nonsense Trump does. MAGA doesn’t work without Trump. Anytime MAGA has been in an election without Trump it fails pretty spectacularly.

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        You only need a following and charisma to get elected, he would just be handed more power so that doesn’t matter.

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          Nah, you need the charisma to convince the people in congress to go along with your ideas. Trump has that kind of sway and power because of all the lackeys he put in place. I don’t think JD could hold the same influence over them.

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        Maybe, but if he inherits a full on police state, he might not need charisma or followers any more.

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          Maybe, but I don’t think it will last. I think Trump has a better chance at getting a third term than JD has at getting a first term.

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          Doesn’t work. Even a police state needs a base of support in the populace or it doesn’t last long. The constant pressure of enforced conformity is too much for the system to endure.

          Also, under fascism, the second string guys are chosen for loyalty first and competence second. If the central guy dies, they fight amongst themselves and nobody wins.

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            Yeah… I’m reading this thread, and not thinking about his lack of charisma, but places like Pakistan where military coups follow.

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          I’d have ruined that app as a teen and not even by telling the truth. I’d be getting pictures of me in empty parks on a carousel like, “3 head shots, 7 kills.”

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          His son’s phone alert goes off with the camgirl tip noises

          dingdingdingdingding

          “DAD it’s CHRISTMAS EVE”

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          Amazing. Assuming this is true, and he actually gets any, he can hit his son with “I came in your mom last night.”

          It may lead to billions in therapy bills, but thet kid is getting the closest thing to the 2006 public Halo game experience.

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        I was curious how far down the line of succession you would have to go to find someone who would not be a catastrophically bad president. 11 positions down is the Secretary of Labor, Lori Chavez-DeRemer. She’s a Hispanic woman who was one of 6 Republican house members who signed a pledge to respect the results of the 2024 election, the only Republican cosponsor of a pro- union bill, and opposes a national Bank on abortion or IVF. Far from Ideal but light years better than the rest of the fascists on the list

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            Normally I would never say a woman slept her way to the top, but this is Trump we are talking about. None of these people legitimately earned their cabinet positions.

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          It would be nigh impossible for that outcome though. If trump dies, Vance assumes the role but then selects a new VP. This new VP is now first in line and Johnson hasn’t moved up at all. It would take the synchronized deaths of all those others in line ahead of Lori Chavez-DeRemer for her to get the position. This is a known possibility so they generally keep people separated to some degree. That way if someone wants to plot a mass assassination to clear the line, it’s much more difficult. They couldn’t just try to bomb one building or something.

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            I’m an atheist but on Inauguration Day I was praying. Then they moved it inside suddenly. All those billionaire butt kissers were there too…

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            True, but most if not all of those positions need congressional approval of the next person holding the position. It doesn’t transfer automatically. The approval process can drag on for months. I think one or two are still “acting” secretaries under Trump.

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          They’re referring to the succession in an emergency. After that i think is speaker pro tempore

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            Yeah, I think they are just pointing in the line of succession doesn’t do much if the VP was chosen by the president. We only made it 4 electiona before the 12th amendment was made and killed any hopes that the line of succession would be useful and Washingtons hopes that we wouldn’t become a 2 party system were completely dashed.

            Without the 12th Amendment I have no idea who would be president right now. Biden would have never been Vice President and such likely would have never been President. Harris the same. But the President would likely have an obstacle at all times in the Senate as the only way to get both the President and Vice President elected for the same “party” they would have to have 2 candidates beat 1 of another party, splitting the vote of their own party. In today’s media age, it would be really hard to have gotten that done.

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          If there is an opening in the VP spot, the President nominates a new VP. But that VP still has to be confirmed by both houses of Congress before he can be sworn in.

          The only way Johnson becomes president is if a) Trump dies, Vance nominates him, and Congress confirms it, or b) both Trump and Vance kick the bucket at the same time which automatically puts Johnson in the White House.

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        just gather them all and let a single mortar shell loose

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    If Biden made it through four years, I have little doubt Trump will do so as well.

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      Sweetie Trump has to make it through a total of 8 now, he already spent 4 years in decline