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There was a time when gsuite was a scrappy little service that gave you a serious option that wasn’t Micro$oft (which at the time was deep into shady monopolistic practices) at a fraction of the price with replacements that were good enough for most small businesses.
If memory serves, the initial price was around $20 or perhaps $50 a YEAR per user. It was a steal if you were used to paying 10 times that for an annual subscription to Microsoft Office Pro plus needing to support a local NT server running Microsoft Exchange and probably a file server that needed backups and antivirus and on and on.
As more and more businesses have gone SaaS and put the whole thing in the cloud, Google has capitalized on this by cranking up the prices while probably scanning and using our data for their benefits somehow (mostly without adding additional features… Google Sheets is nowhere close to feature parity with Excel).
Thankfully we now have way more FOSS and private cloud solutions such as Nextcloud.
I still can’t help but notice, however that feature-wise we really haven’t gone anywhere in 25 plus years.
Injecting AI buttons into Google Workspace or whatever they call it now is probably not a feature that too many of their customers are asking for. But in the never ending push to increase revenue, it seems like now we’re going to get it and that’s the justification for the latest price jump.
I was checking recently for a side thing I’m helping with and Google’s base tier is $7/month/user vs Microsoft’s Business Basic, so no desktop apps, but basically fully equivalent to Google was $6/month/user. I was honestly flabbergasted.
Interesting, that’s got to be intentional. Microsoft was so slow to webbify their Office suite (and probably thought why should we?it’s printing money!) that they lost out on a generation of startup companies.
The thought of switching back to Microsoft hasn’t even crossed my mind since I moved everything to Google around a decade ago. But now I’m actively de-googling because they’re starting to mess with the core solutions.
Personally I’d go with something else entirely, but for a nonprofit both those tiers are free for up to like 300 users which is hard to say no to
Is it worth a dollar a month to not use teams?
They’re also bundling AI with their most expensive tiers. More than likely logging 100% of that revenue towards AI to justify this whole boondoggle.
For my business, I’m pretty happy with Zoho Workplace.
lol Google watch out enshittifying given ppl recommending Indian tech companies over you
Who’s Europe’s Google/Zoho… Proton?
Zoho has EU data centers hosted by Equinix.
Which hoster are they using? Was looking into this but found it confusing for some reason.
I’m using Zoho with the EU data center. I don’t know what hosting sub providers they use for the EU data center. Looks like it’s Equinix: https://www.equinix.com/resources/videos/zoho-testimonial
Then cancel I guess.
Yeah same thing with slack
Since Brian hadn’t already cancelled Google for being awful in every other way, this is exactly the push he needs to stop giving them money and switch to better, cheaper options.
The soaking of customers has kicked into second gear. This is a great time to degoogle, as it will only be made more difficult
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Do you use a privacy-respecting frontend/mirror for YouTube or simply accept most things won’t be on Nebula/wherever and reclaim that time to do something else?
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Wtf is google offering that you’re paying for anyway? advertising?
Google Workspace (GMail, Meet, Calendar Drive, Docs, Sheets, …) is a popular alternative to MS365 among companies.
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Things change.
Ten years ago I joined a newly formed small company. They were all-in on the google suite for everything, and it was great. Gmail, docs, meet, all joined up really well and fully cloud so everyone could work just as easily from home as in the office, with no on-prem hardware or VPNs or anything. It made the work so productive.
But of course enshittification happens, corps get evil, and everything goes down the toilet.
These days I am degoogling as much as possible and would never choose g-suite again, either personally or for business, but 10 years ago for that small business it was a godsend.
when AI came around, they realized ai is costing too much, so they have to force it on customers to make them pay off thier debt.
It’s not like 365 is so great anyway
Storage on google drive comes to mind. Not that I pay for it, but I know it’s something others do.
The only thing you can do about it is lower my plan?
Adobe is doing this too and unless their AI is going to fix the legacy bugs the company clearly doesn’t care enough to fix then it’s not good enough to cost more.
Affinity
GIMPEtc.
Oh don’t even get me started. I know so many softwares and their limitations and if I could cut Adobe completely out of my workflow I wouldn’t wait another second.
OBVIOUSLY the ONLY reason why FIRING YOUR WORKFORCE and Replacing it with ONE AI is MORE Expensive is because of TAXES!
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They’ve been pushing the auto dubbing feature super hard lately. Which isn’t exactly the same thing but a bet they are lumping it in with other AI stuff.
It’s so weird because Gemini is one of the dumbest of these bots out there.
Weirdly its good in image/video analysis in my testing???
but it doesnt filter properly and easy to bypass when using the APIIt was six months ago but not anymore
Once the feedback loop really kicks off then we’ll see it turn to shit faster than all the rest.
Still fucking garbage lol.
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Because it’s training on reddit users.
Are you saying that reddit users are the dumbest users out there?
I was implying it yes
Lol nice
They’re all very “dumb” in soooo many ways
Gemini will suck I believe when used via certain methods.* Going direct to their most expensive model via API produces competitive results,

but this was NOT the case in 2024.
*Surprising they’re OK with brand/product dilution but I guess the alternative is losing even more money as they burn more energy and tax more servers
Why sign up in the first place?
The only reason I still have a gmail account is that the old people in my family would lose track of me if I dropped it.
Most people have had these accounts from before AI was in the zeitgeist. They’re essentially feeling locked in or too lazy to change.
Google became prime enshitification too. You may only degoogle.
I degoogled earlier this year, and it has been amazing. Dont miss it at all.
I’d very much like to, but so far I haven’t found anything which beats Google’s free Non-profit plan. Our small association uses that, which basically gives access to everything Google has to offer: amongst others e-mail under your own domain, shared storage through Drive, a workable office suite, access to Google Meet and all that with central user management.
As crappy as Google may be, when money is an issue that’s a deal that’s hard to ignore. 😞









