I saw the Tesla Robotaxi:
- Drive into oncoming traffic, getting honked at in the process.
- Signal a turn and then go straight at a stop sign with turn signal on.
- Park in a fire lane to drop off the passenger.
And that was in a single 22 minute ride. Not great performance at all.
A man who can’t launch a rocket to save his life is also incompetent at making self driving cars? His mediocrity knows no bounds.
Seriously. I waa better at rocketry than him by age twelve.
To be fair Musk only has money and doesnt Do shit at either Company
He meddles. That much is apparent. The cybertruck is obviously a top down design as evidenced by the numerous atrocious design compromised the engineers had to make just to make it real. From the glued on “exoskeleton” to the hollowed ALUMINUM frame to the complete lack of physical controls to the default failure state turning it into a coffin to the lack of waterproofing etc.
Every time I see it it just looks like the earth ran out of memory and set resolution too low
It’s hilarious to me that Musk claims to work 100 hours a week but he’s the CEO of five companies. Even if the claim were true (and of course it isn’t) it means being the CEO of one of his companies is a 20-hour-a-week job at best.
Woaw! Damn! The robotaxis are a dangerous fuck up!? That’s most surprising thing that happened all year! There’s literally no way I could’ve seen that coming.
If we’re gonna let them on the road, I say that software should get points just like a driver, but when it gets suspended all the cars running that software get shut down.
How about we leave the driving to people, and not pre-alpha software?
There’s no accountability for this horribly dangerous driving, so they shouldn’t be on the road. Period.
There’s no accountability for this horribly dangerous driving, so they shouldn’t be on the road. Period.
Well that’s exactly what their post was about, adding accountability.
Was it? I didn’t read a single hint of adding accountability in the article.
But that begs the question: shouldn’t accountability be in place now, and not maybe at some point in the distant future? They are already on the road.
Not the article, the post from njordamir that you were directly replying to.
shouldn’t accountability be in place now,
Again literally what that user was suggesting
Ah, Ok.
I agree with accountability, but not with the point system. That’s almost like a “three strikes” rule for drunk drivers.
That’s not really accountability, that’s handing out free passes.
That’s almost like a “three strikes” rule for drunk drivers.
Oh man, that would be amazing. If after 3 strikes, all drunk driving could be eliminated… If only we could be so lucky.
He’s not talking about a per-vehicle points system, he’s talking about a global points system for Tesla inc. If after a few incidents, essentially Tesla FSD had it’s license revoked across the whole fleet, I mean, that’s pretty strict accountability I’d say. That’s definitely not handing out free passes, it’s more like you get a few warnings and a chance to fix issues before the entire program is ended nation wide.
I mean, if they weren’t as buggy as they clearly already are, then sure… do a point system.
But as they stand, they shouldn’t be on the road.
Tbh it’s not as bad as I was expecting. Those clips could definitely have resulted in an accident, but the system seems to actually work most of the time. I wonder if it couldn’t be augmented with lidar at this point to make it more reliable? A live stress test is ridiculously irresponsible and will definitely kill people, but at least it’s only Texans at risk (for now).
I was skeptical of the idea of robotaxis, but this kind of sold me on it. If they’re cheaper than human drivers, I might even be able to get rid of my car some day. It doesn’t change the fact that I’ll never get into one because the CEO is a nazi though.
Keep in mind this is a system with millions of miles under it’s belt and it still doesn’t understand what to do with a forced left turn lane in a very short trip in a fairly controlled environment with supremely good visual, road, and traffic conditions. LIDAR wouldn’t have helped the car here, there was no “whoops, confusining visibility”, it just completely screwed up and ignored the road markings.
It’s been in this state for years now, of being surprisingly capable, yet horrible screw ups being noted frequently. They seem to be like 95% of the way there and stuck, with no progress in reality just some willfull denial convincing them to move forward anyway.
Wow it’s almost like having an AI with a 2D view to go off of is a bad idea? Hmmm who’d have thunk it?
You’re telling me we’re not at the point where self driving cars are a thing? But a Tech CEO said so? Who am I supposed to believe if not a Tech CEO?
Self-driving cars are a thing, Weymo is doing pretty fine.
But you might be able to spot a few (dozen) teeny-tiny (huge, bulky and extremely obvious) differences between a Waymo and a Tesla cybercab.
Lie dare you claim Waymo is better than Tesla
(it is a lidar joke, Waymo has lidar sensors which makes it way safer)
Watching anything that fElon fail sparks joy.
Let’s see bug balls what he has to say.
lmfao
Navigation issue / hesitation
The video really understates the level of fuck up that the car did there…
And the guy sitting there just casually being ok with the car ignoring the forced left going straight into oncoming lanes and flipping the steering wheel all over the place because it has no idea what the hell just happened… I would not be just chilling there…
Of course, I wouldn’t have gotten in this car in the first place, and I know they cherry picked some hard core Tesla fans to be allowed to ride at all…
I’ve come to the realization, at least where I live, that a hell of a lot of accidents are prevented because of drivers who are actually aware and safe. This goes a bit beyond defensive driving IMO. I’m talking flat out accident avoidable. There is an entire class of drivers who are not even aware of the accidents they have almost caused because someone else managed to avoid their stupid driving.
The majority of accidents that are likely to happen with these robocoffins will be single car or robocoffin meets robocoffin. The numbers on safety after a year will be acceptable because non accident causing error prone driving is not reported in any official capacity.
I still maintain that the only safe way to have autonomous vehicles on the road is if they do not share the road with human drivers and have an open standard for communicating with other autonomous cars.
open standard
Soery, no, that’s infrastructure.
You can tell it’s a Tesla because of the way it is.
Watch that stock price fall… wheeeee
It already jumped up about 10% on monday simply because the service launched. Even if the service crashes and burns, they’ll jump to the next hype topic like robots or AI or whatever and the stock price will stay up.
And its fallen back down about 30% of those gains already. Hype causes spikes… that’s nothing new.
Oof, these highlighted parts from only one video are already enough for me. This looks very stressful, I don’t think I could finish a whole ride with one of these.
Don’t worry. It’ll get into a collision before you finish a whole ride.
Cruise cars were already doing this and performed far better. GM is fucking braindead and pulled the plug like usual though.
Leave it to GM to find a way to thread the needle and seize defeat from the jaws of victory.
Sounds like the indian guy driving it with a joystick was a bit hungover. You’d think they’d screen that thing at the entrance of the cubicle farm where all these AI folk drive these from. AI is just “anonymous indians” for elmo’s grifting kind.
So it emulates a standard BMW driver. Well done.
Still work to be done, it uses the blinkers.
At least they were used incorrectly to be just as unpredictable.
Tesla driver are the new BMW drivers. And since Tesla uses their customers driving data to train their AI it’s not a surprise that the AI drives like an asshole.
