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      Then the DNC runs an “independent” in the race against you when you win your primary and the monied interests fund that person, splitting the vote against the MAGA republican who calls them both commies and wins anyway. It’s happening in NYC already with Cuomo remaining on the ballot.

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        Adams and the other guy are the MAGA Republicans. Cuomo running as Independent will only take votes from them. They all share the same target demographic: assholes. Adams and Cuomo are pretty much universally hated by anyone who voted Zohran

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          Adams and Cuomo are pretty much universally hated by anyone who voted Zohran

          And what’s more, many people will simply vote for the Dem candidate, for one reason or another. For reasons good and bad - but here, ‘vote blue no matter who’ works in the favor of the progressive.

          We’ll see if it’s enough, but it’s definitely a disadvantage to the dickweed fascist Cuomo.

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            You.

            You said democracy isn’t real. I said perhaps, but also that the people of the United States shouldn’t tolerate fascism as it has no place in the modern world.

            Which part aren’t you understanding?

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                  You granted I might be right. So I asked (first) what our options are if this is the case. You’re evading the question.

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        In the US? Or as a concept? Because I have a few things happening in my country that are the definition of democracy.

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          High likelihood your country is not consequential geopolitically. That or you’re fooled.

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            Oh, so now democracy doesn’t exist if you’re country is “not consequential geopolitically”? Either it exists or it doesn’t.

            Nice moving the goal post, no wonder I have you at -20 net downvotes organically.

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              I’m saying voting for class president isn’t the same as voting for the leader of a sovereign hegemon. Maybe Belgium, for example, has a “democracy” but ultimately Europe is a footstool for the United States. It can act ‘independently’ only as long as it pays tribute to the regional power. This is same for countries in Asia, the Middle East, Eurasia etc What use is your democracy if it functions within a false paradigm? The political equivalent of “playing house”.

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                We have a “leader of a sovereignty” with a GDP above Spain and Australia, though?

                It sounds to me like you think not having a perfect democracy gets in the way of having a good one.

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                  Both Spain and Australia are within the United States sphere of influence and that’s just two countries. There are really only a handful of countries with actual sovereignty. The US, China, Russia, India, Israel and to a far lesser degree Iran and maybe Brazil. Even if all other countries were perfectly functioning democracies they would fall under the influence of one of these hegemons. This means there are things you can’t vote for and more often than not your democracy is only tolerated and often defended by a larger power that is a democracy in name only. You are a mock congress in a civics class. Power always wins out. That’s not a political opinion it’s a fact. Votes have little to no power. Hordes of enraged peasants DO have power which is why they are placated with activities like voting. Artificial agency.

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      The seats that need to be taken I don’t think are sided towards the Democrats getting enough. States like Alabama have had a Democrat Senator in recent years but for it to flip from a Republican back to a Democrat seems tough with how divided and how far right some states have slid. (Nearly 65% voted for Trump there in 2024).

      Kyle Sweetster may be their best shot of a democrat winning , but it’s a long ways away and who knows what could change. https://www.kyleforalabama.com/

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    We’ve been doing this shit for a decade now. It’s not working, the system is broken, we should try something else. Yelling VOTED HARDER has failed.

    Also, don’t put status quo Democrats on those ballots, especially ones who voted to table impeachment earlier this week.

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    Remember folks, every vote counts. We did this to ourselves.

    I’ve said it before elsewhere but it needs to be heard…

    It’s just wild to me continually seeing posts not understanding how this all works, and how it would play out. It’s like the people who thought China paid the tariffs…

    The house is almost tied. That’s who passes bills, handles impeachments, some of the most powerful committees are, and who impeaches Presidents…

    218 Republicans, 213 Democrats.

    Let’s see, take New York for example.

    26 representatives total, 19 Democrat and 7 Republican.

    5 of those were within 2 points last time their seat was up.

    People who think that New York is blue, their vote doesn’t matter, skips the votes for the House and Senate and end up losing a Blue house seat but later complain that nothing changes are literally the fucking problem.

    Every. Fucking. State. Is. Like. This.

    Apathetic morons who don’t realize that the president is only held accountable by the other branch of government then wave their hands around when they did jack shit to help put people in place to, are the fucking problem.

    District 3 of California was lost by 24,000 votes. District 22 was lost by 3,000.

    Those two seats in the house, along with the close ones in New York, Jersey, Michigan, Illinois, Washington, hell every state… Are what makes the House of Representatives or breaks it.

    So, if you think that your vote for president doesn’t matter, so you skip voting and let these other seats slip, yes, you’re a fucking moron who can’t grasp basic concepts of government that are taught in 4th grade.

    And don’t get me started on the State House/Senates, how they define voting laws and voting zones and engage in gerrymandering.

    Every fucking vote counts.

    And until the country realizes it, and starts acting on it, we’ll keep getting the shit we deserve.

    House needs a simple majority, and two thirds of the Senate.

    Democrats would need ~18 seats.

    First, that won’t happen in 2026.

    Even the best cases make it hard to win enough by 2028. Which is why impeachment is just not something we can hold out for.

    Gerrymandering is part of why this is a problem, which is done at the local level, and again why every vote counts.

    How could it play out? Assuming some absurdly weird upside down world just opposite of what we’re living in, this is the only path just looking at the numbers…

    Again, Democrats would need to gain 18 net seats. Seats Potentially in Play (Republican Incumbents): This requires looking at seats up in upcoming cycles.

    • Class 1 Seats (Up in 2026):
      • Highly Competitive Targets: These would be the first priority. States where Democrats have won statewide recently or that lean only slightly Republican. Examples based on recent political history might include:
        • North Carolina (Budd-R)
        • Alaska (Sullivan-R) - Unique dynamics with ranked-choice voting.
      • Stretch Targets: States that are more Republican but could potentially flip under exceptionally favorable conditions (like the hypothetical turnout).
        • Iowa (Ernst-R)
        • Montana (Daines-R) - Depends heavily on candidate matchups.
        • Kentucky (McConnell-R’s seat - potential retirement changes dynamics)
        • Kansas (Marshall-R)
        • South Carolina (Graham-R)
      • Very Difficult Targets: Solidly Republican states requiring overwhelming Democratic turnout and significant shifts among other voters.
        • Texas (Cornyn-R)
        • Mississippi (Wicker-R)
        • Alabama (Tuberville-R)
        • West Virginia (Capito-R)
        • Oklahoma (Mullin-R - Special election winner)
        • Wyoming (Lummis-R)
        • Idaho (Risch-R)
        • Arkansas (Cotton-R)
        • Nebraska (Ricketts-R)
        • South Dakota (Rounds-R)
        • Louisiana (Cassidy-R) - Jungle primary system.
    • Class 2 Seats (Up in 2028): (Looking further ahead)
      • Highly Competitive Targets:
        • Maine (Collins-R) - Often competitive, depends on matchup.
        • Georgia (Perdue/Ossoff dynamic showed competitiveness, depends who holds it after '26 potentially) - Assuming GOP holds a seat here.
      • Stretch Targets:
        • Michigan (Peters-D currently, but listing potential GOP flips back if one happened hypothetically before 2028) - Generally leans D, but could be contested.
        • New Hampshire (Shaheen-D currently) - Generally leans D, but listing potential GOP flips back.
      • Very Difficult Targets: (Many solidly Republican states)
        • Tennessee (Hagerty-R)
        • Alaska (Murkowski-R historically, depends on dynamics)
        • North Carolina (Tillis-R)
        • Iowa (Grassley-R seat potentially)
        • Texas (Cruz-R)
        • Kentucky (Paul-R)
        • And many others similar to the 2026 list (SC, AL, MS, WY, ID, NE, SD, KS, WV, OK).

    It’s going to take an absolutely historic level of pain to both drive enough people to vote MAGA out to make this change though.

    The amount that’s being excused, sanewashed, and just drowned out with other absurdities…

    We’re on all on this shit ride until some new wildcard comes into play.

    No impeachment, no Supreme Court, no guardrail is going to change that.

    Something new and unaccounted for is the only feasible catalyst.

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      I’m not American and I wish you guys the very best, but my expectations for the 2026 elections is on par with the elections in Russia. Every non republican candidate may end up in jail or out of a window.

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        Unfortunately as someone who lives here and has no choice but to watch it, I think you’re right.

        Far too many of my countrymen are just complacent in letting this happen.

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          It’s not easy to take action that really works. Protests only do so much. Armed resistance is problematic and can backfire in so many ways…

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      Totally get all of that, but U cant help but look at McConnell’s seat and remember how Schumer and co rejected the exciting young candidate and instead forced a PRO-TRUMP “democrat” to challenge him.

      It’s simple: if you think you can challenge a red conservative with a blue conservative, the red conservative will win every time. Blue conservatives are just carpetbaggers to the voters.

      The challenger to conservatism is progressivism. If you don’t actually provide a choice you WILL lose.

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    It’s not enough to just elect Democrats. Ok technically Democrats would have 67 votes in the Senate if they flipped every single Republican seat, which would be just enough to convict. But that’s not happening.

    Instead, there needs to be a movement by anti Trump forces from across the spectrum to primary Republicans and replace them with anti Trump candidates. That effort needs to start now.

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    I am utterly convinced that it won’t matter, but damnit we still have to fucking try.

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    Technically 35 are up, two special elections, and only 22 are Republican seats so we could afford to lose 2 of the 35 with the goal of removing Trump. Still doable.

    We could, however, lose 9 of them and still undo citizens united, pass medicaid for all, maybe tax the rich, etc.

    More realistically I think we will see Republicans getting ousted in different ways than electing the DNC whose platform are those reforms I mentioned, instead we will probably see their seats go to moderate independents.

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    If voting was actually a threat to totalitarians in power they wouldn’t let us do it anyway.

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      They have been MASSIVELY trying to stop people from voting, what the fuck are you talking about you absolute nincompoop? They keep purging voters and trying to implement new ID requirements and closing polling places and encouraging people to “poll watch” (voter intimidation).

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      Have you heard of a little thing called The American Experiment?

      Funny story. They actually were in on the ground floor of a new nation and they said, “We left this England place because it was totally bogus. So if we don’t get some cool rules - pronto - . . . well then we’ll just be bogus too.”

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      If voting was actually a threat to totalitarians in power they would spend a lot of money and power to convince you that it’s pointless and you shouldn’t do it.

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    Hahahahahahaha

    Not even if the Dems had the vote. I am positive someone would block it for civility reasons.

    The dems can not get out of their own way. See Zohran win in NYC.

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      The dems can not get out of their own way. See Zohran win in NYC.

      So vote to expand the progressive side of the dem party

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        You mean to say our votes can override an organization that argued in court that since its a private service they could just ignore the vote of the people and pick who they wanted?

        The same organization that always manages to organize and attack leftist like Zohran and Bernie but can’t find any footing against Trump?

        Yep. That will work. Just gotta vote harder.

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            I really really don’t think that will change anything. People been trying to change the democrats for the better part of ten years.

            Name one landmark foundational thing they have done in the last ten years thats really benefited the majority of Americans.

            There isn’t one that isn’t a major concession that undercuts the original proposal.

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              You’re right and part of that is people like you not showing up. None voting has had the most votes in all those elections.

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                I am under no illusions that even if and it’s a big if the Democrats managed to take back enough seats in both the house and the Senate to actually impeach and prosecute Trump that they still won’t do it that they will be spineless and that they will offer supposed Olive branches across the aisle.

                We had one guy win a primary in a mayoral race. You guys are acting as if this changes everything. It’s interesting to watch for sure and there are lessons to be learned but that does not mean that everything is changing. It’s not even guaranteed he’ll win the Mayoral race. The DNC is even considering not giving him the nomination despite him winning.

                The billionaire class is already mobilizing to try and ensure this guy never gets elected. Do you think they’re going to make it any easier when he’s in office?

                By all means we should engage in electoral politics but we should not be under any illusions that it will fix the system we have nor should we be under any illusion that our politicians will save us from the problem that is Donald Trump. If anything the Democrats seem more than happy to capitulate to what he wants since they’re not in the majority.

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                  Do you think they’re going to make it any easier when he’s in office?

                  No, but your writing is that we should give up prematurely. That is why we also need to protest.

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              Name one landmark foundational thing they have done in the last ten years thats really benefited the majority of Americans.

              Billions for renewable energy buildouts?

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                Yep that’s definitely helped Americans get Universal Health Care, reduce poverty, increase purchasing power, make housing work accessible, and meaningfully lower the number of homeless in the United States.

                Oh wait it didn’t do any of those things. It made rich people richer while holding lip service for the climate conscious people

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                  Jesus fucking christ dude. You don’t see how big investment in renewable energy helps everyone?

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                I’m sure it’s been longer but I can absolutely defend that they’ve been trying to change the party from the inside since at least Obama got elected.

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    For all you Americans who like to complain about the democrats candidates, maybe join the party and vote on primaries. Maybe do something other than just wait around until they feed you the candidate they picked without your input. Maybe start changing up the party from within and at the entry level, by voting on primaries and volunteering for the progressive candidates that want to overthrow the party career politicians. Look at what New York did! If they had waited around and not cared about primaries, they would have gotten Cumo and complained. I hear a lot of complaining about the democrats on Lemmy, sometimes you guys blame them more than Republican. But if you don’t vote or register as a democrat then you don’t matter to them. Make yourselves heard before the actual elections

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      The democratic party is literally designed to squelch any kind of true progressivism. They are funnel any movements into “voting blue no matter who” and make people like AOC say bullshit things like “Biden is working tirelessly for a ceasefire” which we know if bullshit after Biden aides admitted they did not.

      We need to make ourselves heard, aboslutley. And waiting for the elections is a recipie for failure indeed. But you say all these things about registering for democratic primaries or canvasing or “changing the party” without realizing people who have been paying attention have been trying that for decades. The democratic party is designed to maintain the status quo, and be as big of a roadbump as possible to actual workers demands so that they can keep campaigning on being better than the GOP. We are not reforming the democratic party when its whole goal for decades is to trap people trying to demand actual reform.

      We need to make demands, absolutely. But we need to throw off the shackles of thinking the prison guards are going to help us escape. We need a new party, not a new Democrat.

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        We need a new party, not a new Democrat.

        Not happening.

        As our nation descends into authoritarianism/fascism you absolutely do not have the luxury of time necessary to wait for a 3rd party to actually start doing something so they can start winning local/state elections so they can start having ANY presence AT ALL in Congress, so they can one day potentially run a presidential candidate that stands a chance.

        Like, are you aware that no 3rd party has done really anything at all? NONE in Congress. NONE. They have no presence and it takes DECADES to build up a nation-wide coalition and win a presidency. Even if somehow, in a fantasy scenario, a 3rd party candidate won the presidency, they’d have ZERO support in Congress to accomplish anything.

        The answer is 100% putting massive pressure on the Democrat party to change to what we want it to be. We literally witnessed the insane Republican base do exactly that to the Republican party over the last 10-20 years.

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        Exactly. When you try to actually change the party, you are forced to join at the bottom. And the only people who rise to any power in the party are those that are willing to toe the party line. People saying to work within the party have no idea how politics actually works.

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      Progressive Democrats are the 3rd party. That’s why establishment Dems are trying to suppress them.

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          Yup.

          We literally witnessed the insane base change the Republican party.

          It’s 100% possible for liberals to force the Democrat party to change.

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            That’s what the abolitionists thought about the Whigs. They tried for decades in vain to get the Whigs to adopt anti-slavery positions, but the Whigs were far too loyal to business interests and the status quo. In the end it took abolitionists abandoning the Whigs entirely and founding the Republican party.

            We’ve witnessed this before. Sometimes parties become so resistant to change that the only way forward is to walk away. Yes, this takes a willingness to reject myopic thinking - to focus on the long term rather than the short term. But this short term thinking, only looking at one election at a time, is what has got us to this crisis.

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          Why is the moral obligation on the progressives to join with the centrists? The progressives should start their own party. Then we can tell the centrists that they can get on board. And if they don’t, it’s their fault Republicans win. This street goes both ways.

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      Right?

      There are way too many whiny children on this platform thinking they need a brand new party to vote for instead of doing what’s actually possible and morphing the Democrat party, since much of their policy already matches what these whiny children want.

      A new, viable party isn’t happening in this country anytime soon. Probably not in our lifetimes. The answer is forcing the Democrat party to change, which is 100% a thing that can happen.

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        A new party will never be formed by the people complaining cause they tend to just complain and not do actual work. Like you said, forming a party would be much harder than just changing the Democratic Party from within

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        The policies match on posters but not in practice. All of the policies you want only get brought to vote when it is impossible for it to pass against a Nazi majority and then disappear when opportunity arises.

        ANY candidate who has been in Washington for 12 years or more should be VIGOROUSLY primaried…for example Adam Schiff, who has become yet another Pelosi- styled career milquetoast shitlib.

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          All of the policies you want only get brought to vote when it is impossible for it to pass

          It might be now, because nothing is possible anymore, but before current round of shitsow, amazing amount of smaller bills and propositions were passed, they weren’t flashy ones (and that’s why there were passed, under the radar), but it helped immense amount of people. Everything big, like medicare for all, requires so much more work, it was never possible to do in that short periods of time US government wasn’t overwhelmed by reactionaries.
          But that’s all that people can actually achieve, for now.

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            “It’s sitting on McConnell’s desk!” “Now is not the time.” “But the Parliamentarian…”

            And ALWAYS one Democrat vote short. Also, three are dead.

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      You don’t even have to join the Democratic Party to vote in their primaries.

      That being said, they will absolutely move mountains to block anyone remotely socialist from gaining power. The only reason Mamdani won the primary is because NYC has ranked choice voting.

      The Dems are not going to save us because their leadership is profiting from this too much. Organized resistance is the only hope we have.

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        absolutely move mountains to block

        Establishment Dems never move mountains for anything. They’ll push over molehills. Sometimes that’s all it takes.

        And yeah, they only put molehills in front of Bernie. Unfortunately that’s all it took.

        One of the big realities is that winning elections right now takes money. I hate every Dem that swears off campaign contributions. It’s partly our fault that if they don’t play the game they’re not gonna win.

        Votes still matter more than money. It’s partly our collective fault that money buys votes as effectively as it does.

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        Actually, Mamdani would’ve won on first past the post as well (he has 43.5% of voters choosing him as first choice). He needs a 50% threshold to advance, which is where ranked choice will come in, but he would’ve won a first past the post anyways.

        So even in a first past the post scheme, people should vote in dem primaries. I think we’re all on board with changing the dem party, and it starts in the primaries.

        Go vote, or get oppressed. That’s basically the options and people need to understand that. Voting doesn’t guarantee you won’t be oppressed, but not voting guarantees you will.

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          Would those people have voted for him in a first past the post race? Or would they have been too afraid that someone worse than Cuomo would win, so they stick with him?

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            Well since he was selected as their first choice, presumably they would still choose their first choice when only given one choice. Ranked choice plays a role for everyone else down ballot and for automatic runoffs. People don’t put someone as their first choice that they don’t actually want as their first choice. So yes, they would have.

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              Yes they do, all the time. I wanted to vote for Bernie in the 2016 election, but I actually voted for Hillary because I thought that splitting the vote would let Trump win. If we had ranked choice, I could have put Bernie on top while knowing that I wasn’t opening the door tor Trump.

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                While I understand your statement here in the Hillary v Trump scenario, I don’t think it necessarily applies here, as if anything , I would think that Lander supporters would’ve instead put Mamdani as their first choice if they only had a single choice, given the announcement. The down ballot races would have been less successful.

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        100% - the Dems are a fundraising organization, not a political party.

        Sure it will benefit us to be more politically active, but we need to put that energy into a new party. The Dems will not save us.

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          That’s the point of voting in primaries. To change that. That’s how the republicans got turned into a maga cult. We need to follow that example to uncult our side.

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          Please leave a detailed message explaining exactly how you propose to come up with a viable 3rd Party when the 2026 midterms are in sight?

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            Please provide a detailed message explaining how you plan to escape the repeated cycle of voting in fascists and then voting in fascist collaborators.

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            One method would be an Article V convention to get rid of money in politics, abolish the electoral college, get rid of FPTP in favor of ranked choice voting, and mandate a fair and impartial redistributing system which must be applied nationally before the midterms.

            Essentially, our last shot at a “peaceful revolution”.

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              Hold on.

              First line “One method”

              Last line “our last shot.”

              Pretty quick self contradiction.

              Besides, the 2026 are about 17 months away. There’s no way you could convene an Article V convention in that time.

              Sounds like you just don’t want to admit you haven’t got anything practical to suggest.

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        If you live in a closed state primary like Florida, you do have to join to vote in the primaries of your party.

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        their leadership

        Is there because people used their political power to make them leaders, to achieve that goals. It’s a democratic process, albeit convoluted one.

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        This depends on the state and in most states you have to be a member of the party to vote in primaries

        • Is it really most states? I’m in an extremely conservative state. I refuse to join a political party. I’m allowed to vote in the Democrats’ primary, but not the Republicans’.

          If you are in this situation, please vote in the primary after learning about the local candidates.

          There is one big thing- You must ask for the Democratic Party Ballot. I was used to getting it by default and was disenfranchised in 2008 by being given the no affiliation ballot. I realized it when I got to the machine and was not allowed to change. I left yelling about it, like that did any good.

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          Revolution it is!

          And then they proceed to do nothing revolutionary, don’t forget.

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        With enough pressure from their constituents, the Democrat party will absolutely change into whatever we want it to. Look at the Republican party. They found out their constituents really liked racism and authoritarianism and that party basically became unrecognizable compared to a quarter century ago to give it to them. I’m old enough to remember the Republican party being assholes, but not on this level. When I was younger they would absolutely not have behaved the way they currently behave. But their constituents gave them the thumbs up, so here we are.

        Democrat legislators very, very much want to keep their gravy train jobs. They’ll morph into whoever they need to be to keep them.

        But that pressure has to start significantly before an election and it has to be big enough that they can’t ignore it.

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      I agree with all of this but take into account that lots of people here don’t even live in the US (like me). And we get fucked by democrats being shit at winning elections too

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        Arguing a point about something-or-other, when the other person has a limited idea about the context, is really frustrating.