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Meanwhile you have BNA:Brand New Animal, A show with an ending so bad it taints everything that leads up to it. I have never seen a show undermine its own message like that.
This comic is out of touch with the politics of Netflix style script writing where there’s no story arc being followed.
Do Netflix shows even get to a finale? Unless its an enormous hit like squid game or stranger things, they just cancel it.
castlevania was another one that got a finish, because it lasted 4 season. nocturne not as good as the first series , especially animations, although it does get interesting later on if they continue it.
Really putting the “ass” in comparison there. Also, if a person say… wrote a best selling beloved children’s book series, but then heel-turned into a piece of shit, it absolutely does ruin their entire body of work for a lot of people.
Like, this happens, what is the comic even talking about?
Responding from a month in the future, just scrolling this artist’s post history.
They’re just a decent artist with bad critical thinking and story-telling skills. I really hope they stop posting bcos holy shit this stuff is cancerously bad and it is consistently on the front page.
Context can certainly change over time. If Rudy Giuliani died in 2002, he’d be remembered as ‘America’s Mayor’.
How cruel a joke it must be for a God to create beings that crave consistency in a universe where the only consistent thing is change.
Really feels like the comic artist wrote ‘died like an idiot’ to argue against himself in bad faith from the get go
This comic has a solid set-up, but the punchline is weak.
It’s almost like stories are different from people and stories are comprised to a beginning middle and end. The only time this doesn’t count is if the series is not serial based and a mess of episodic with serial through arcs.
The last season of GoT invalidated all of the growth that was witnessed in all the previous seasons, ruining the story.
How I Met Your Mother’s last season broke a spell that was over me, thinking that any of the characters were decent people. And allowed me to look at the whole thing without any of the nostalgia that carried me throughout the show. Was a young adult with questionable opinions that got better as I got older. The show seems to have never done so. And so I can say that the bad season did ruin the rest of the show, as I may have never given it a critcal eye if they had written it better.
I remember reading all the alleged leaks on freefolk for s8, couldn’t believe they’d be accurate, some of them just seemed too dumb to be real.
By e3, so much of them had been correct (well, at least from the parts of that episode I could see), I just embraced it. Was a far more enjoyable experience for me, at least got me through the remainder of it. Cracks showed before s8 (once they ran out of book material I think is when it stated), but there was so much dumb shit that final season.
We used to do rewatches, my partner hasn’t touched it since then and has said she probably never will, s8 just ruined it for her (she also leaned into the spoilers after e3)
If a story doesn’t have a satisfying conclusion, then I would say starting the story is pointless.
in the same way, if someone cures cancer and fucks one chicken…
I heard it was an osterich. Allegedly.
Every single person of note in Canada, lauded for building something good in Canada, for all Canadians, is eventually found to have cursed out a left-handed albino otter one day on a Monday, and is thus Satan incarnate.
Here we chastise people in glass houses from throwing stones; but we also don’t respect a redemption story or long-lasting contributions in case Buddy had a bad day once.
Could you give an example?
I think there’s two kinds of shows, and this notion is true for one of them.
Burn Notice had a crazy and weird set of dramatic final seasons. I never bothered with them. But previous seasons were excellent things with only a few minutes focused on the central plot of unraveling the Burn, the rest devoted to serials of helping some innocent person evade a gangster. Always enjoyable.
But there’s other shows where all they are building is plot anticipation; just a growing feeling of “I wonder how this will end”. I’ve even become alerted to video games doing this with excessively long running series, or anything touched by the creator of Kingdom Hearts.
Each solid piece of media should have an enjoyable ending to it - even if it’s also building towards future endings.
I think both “the show had 5 great seasons but a terrible ending” is as bad as “the show has 3 bad seasons but the last 2 are great!” are equally bad and reasons that I would not watch something.
It’s not like there aren’t hundreds of other options.
I guess I agree except The Good Place season 1 is a must watch. Later seasons fell off a bit and pushed my suspension of disbelief in places, but if you don’t care about the ultimate plot you can just watch S01 and call it a day.
Babylon 5 was a great show… with this caveat:
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Season 1 is slow and you won’t know how important it is until you watch 2, 3, 4.
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Season 4 is the single best season of sci fi television ever produced, but you have to have seen 2 and 3 to fully appreciate it.
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The reason Season 4 is amazing is because they didn’t know they were getting a Season 5 so they stuffed 2 seasons worth of television into 1.
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Then they got renewed for Season 5 by a different network and were like “Season 5… um… yeah! We totally have a plan for that… Yeah… totally ready to go.”
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I had been meaning to start Game of Thrones, but hearing that the ending sucks kind of killed all interest for me.
The problem with Game of Thrones is this:
They ran out of material to adapt. They hit a wall where they ran out of books and had to adapt Martin’s PowerPoint slides, and it shows!
I think there was a lot more going on than that. Benioff and Weiss wanted out. They wanted to collect all their accolades and move on to fresh IPs. HBO was happy to give them more money and time to construct full-length seasons, but they chose to push the last two with shorter runs.
I think if they had handed the show off to fresh showrunners ready to build on the existing plot threads and pacing of the show, we’d be looking back on it very differently.
Yeah. There are a lot of story beats that everyone knows GRRM would write (if he only cared to continue the series) and those story beats were in the show. They had enough material to work with, they simply chose to rush through all of it.
Like a punchline is to a joke, the ending is the most important part of a story. The conclusion gives the journey meaning. Blowing the ending can - and often does - retroactively ruin an entire narrative. This comic is akin to saying “a bad punchline doesn’t ruin a whole joke.” It does. In the same way, a bad or missing conclusion undermines the narrative as a whole.
What a stupid logic.
I’m sorry someone criticized your fav, comic guy :(
Well, Alfred Nobel tried to do a uno reverse on this one. And I think it worked!
