President Donald Trump is lashing out at his own supporters as he tries to clamp down on criticism over his administration’s handling of much-hyped records in the Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking investigation, which Trump now calls a “Hoax.”
“Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this “bull——,” hook, line, and sinker,” Trump wrote Wednesday on his Truth Social site, using an expletive in his post. “They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years.”
“Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore! Thank you for your attention to this matter,” he went on.
One of Trump’s campaign promises was that he’d release the Epstein client list.
So, Trump says it exists when it is convenient for him to say it exists, and then he says it doesn’t exist when it is inconvenient for him to say it exists.
MAGAts are like children refusing to eat their veggies. They’re going to resist with this whole Epstein thing until their Daddy looks at them sternly and tells them to fall in line…or else.
It’s performative noncompliance. At the end of the day, when the going gets tough, they’ll show their support for a felon rapist (pedo?), because that’s what they’ve always done, without fail.
Not everyone is just spewing talking points, there’s a LOT of maga folks who actually do give a shit about this. This is his biggest betrayal by far.
The #1 thing that unites (most of) the left and right is our shared hatred for the rich and powerful. Trump is outright saying he’s breaking his promise specifically to protect the rich and powerful.
Most people hate pedophiles more than the rich.
I’d like to believe something would snap them out of their slavish cult mentality, but I don’t yet.
It will depend on the media. If the media makes this into something bigger than Watergate, that’s what it will be. People usually aren’t cognizant of how much their thoughts on things are shaped by the narrative our media tells.
The media reporting alone creates this sort of assumption that something is important to everyone else. If you think all your fellow group members are feeling a certain way, you will try to feel that way. As that happens to enough people it creates a real trend in the herd with momentum.
Yeah I think the Watergate template can’t apply anymore because of the prevalence of social media especially with the cult.
Anything the corporate news sewers dish out will be discounted anyway.
I don’t know, during the Vietnam War, news coverage followed public opinion, not lead it.
The #1 thing that unites (most of) the left and right is our shared hatred for the rich and powerful.
The right loves the rich and powerful. They may resent them, but they still suck up to them and give them whatever they demand.
Plenty do, yeah. It’s not is a monolith
Love to see it.
Mom?
I’m so sorry.
This is interesting… In the past when Trump has tried to push back on his followers he’s followed the TACO principle. Like when he wanted to take credit for the COVID vaccines but his audience was anti-vax he quickly softened his language to “take it… if you want it tho. Maybe it’s poison who knows?”
He’s never been a leader - he’s just been an amalgamation of all of the racism and conspiracy theories his followers have. He says “yes” or “maybe” to everything. I think this is the first time he’s really said “no” though?
He’s organized crime looking to continue his break into fascist dictator. His sycophants he’s surrounded himself with don’t care and prefer that he’s a rapist and a pedo to try to control him, but the people he conned into voting for him buy bumper stickers like this:
So what happens when the ranks push back on the orders? He’ll exile them if he thinks he can get away with throwing them under the same bus as his lawyers, AG, VP, etc or capitulate. But in this case capitulate means he’ll probably try to redact himself and his fluffers from the docs then share them and hope they’re dumb enough to accept the redacted reports.
I think it’s going to blow over eventually. Like half of the big social media people in his base have started accepting the narrative of its probably not as big as we thought and we need to Trust the leader.
I wonder why he said no this time 🤔
His supporters and the whole maga movement are born out of qanon and pizzagate. There’s no way he’s going to handwave his way into them giving up on their one unifying cause.
That face is a face that is about to cry.
I like that look for him.
DARVO. we are now at attack phase.
Dude is freaking out because he’s finally being treated like any other politician, and his pathetic ego can’t handle it.
PLEASE let this be the beginning of the end. I’ve aged like 5 years in the last 6 months.
Also for anyone seeing this comment, here is the testimony of Katie Johnson who claimed Trump raped her and other 13 year old girls multiple times. Fair warning: it goes into excruciating and brutal details:
“Katie Johnson’s full testimony of 2/11/16”, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo
Please save and spread.
let this be the beginning of the end
Fascism doesn’t voluntarily give up power. There’s no way that scandal brings down the regime. They didn’t install tech bros as officers in the military because they intend to respect the will of the electorate.
I don’t mean the regime. I just mean Trump himself. It may actually be worse when someone more competent like JD Vance is in charge.
Trump went on Howard Stern and boasted about barging into the dressing rooms at the Miss Teen USA pageant. He famously perved on his own daughter. This is nothing new
His production assistant told stories of him sticking his fingers in the pageant contestants’ mouths “to check their teeth”.
It only gets worse.
That’s the amazing thing about Trump.
No matter how low the bar is, he always manages to be worse than you could imagine.
It’s nothing new to anyone not in the cult, but this could be the biggest chance of getting through to them. We need to get them to see the truth and use this tiny crack in their mental fortress to open it up: “well if he blatantly lied about this (based on all of this proof they’ve seen) what else has he been lying about?”
I know that’s probably naive and overly hopeful, but I’m still doing my part.
I’ve been hoping for his people to see the light since 2015.
They stuck with him when he admitted that Trump University was a scam…
They stuck with him when Mexico didn’t pay for the Wall…
They stuck with him when a million people died of Covid…
I hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
MAGAts tend to suffer from sunk cost fallacy, among a myriad of other nonsense delusions.
I hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
I think this is the best way. I lean a bit more towards hope because he not only did the Epstein thing, but he’s taking away people’s medicaid and social security. He also is going after people they know aren’t criminals or gang bangers, they’re not some vague other.
You’re basically asking cultists to turn against their cult leader.
I can’t recall too many times in history where that’s ever happened. Sadly.
This isn’t a logic or reason thing with them, this is an identity thing.
If they do that, they will lose their sense of identity, and that’s something people who have few other things going for them are unlikely to do.
We should make up some group that can absorb all the crazies from MAGA and give them a healthier outlet, like the equivalent of a methadone clinic.
Maybe we can kill 2 birds with 1 stone and make this new outlet where they can place their identity push for economic reforms and equality, positioning the ultra elite as an evil cabal that rules the world. It just so happens that in this new conspiracy group that the conspiracy is mostly true.
The one thing that is in the back of my mind is what is Trump going to do next in order to attempt to cover up this Epstein list situation? Will he declare war on a foreign country? Will he declare war on the people of the United States who stand against him?
It will absolutely be against US citizens because MAGA cares far more about not having foreign wars, than having gestapo disappear US citizens.
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When the last republican president had an approval rating as shitty as trump’s, he lucked into the worst terrorist attack in US history.
1000% tariffs. Invades Mexico.
another 50% of canada tariffs, he seemed to have stop attacking china on tariffs as of late.
Jesus these takes…
Could be a as simple as:
Not chicken out on those tariffs that [absolutely nobody actually believes are] going into effect in 14 days.
And if that hasn’t fucked shit up good enough in a month, he could move on to plan B:
Not chicken out on his “50 days for Russia to end the Ukraine war” ultimatum.
Russia does a nuke test to see how far he is willing to go.
putin will probably suggest trump nuking his enemies, not putin of course.
Why are we still talking about when Putin nuked Ukraine? Isn’t everyone over that?
Not chicken out on his “50 days for Russia to end the Ukraine war” ultimatum.
Remember when he said he’d have the russia-ukraine war ended within a few days of being in office? Yep, what a tosser.
thats what putin told him to do, he probably noticed that was harder to do than he thought.
He will nuke Iran
Hopefully someone will pull a Kissinger. Nixon wanted to nuke North Vietnam. Kissinger told the joint chiefs to ignore any orders from Nixon since he was drunk and to wait for confirmation from Kissinger.
damn, Kissinger was a bastard but he was a cunning bastard and that’s what made him so insidious
That’s what made Kissinger so disgusting and dangerous. He was not stupid and was legit cunning.
There is a difference between an asshole and an idiot.
they might just reanimate kinssinger’s corpse \
The zero master is at it again.
Wait, wasn’t your whole political philosophy built around ignorance and spineless loyalty? If you train them to fall for scams and conspiracies don’t get shocked when they go for another conspiracy that you don’t like.
…because I don’t want their support anymore!
Damn, he’s gone “full Hitler in the bunker”. “Those damn traitors! They failed me!”
he’s gone “full Hitler in the bunker”
There’s just one more important step for that to be true … and I don’t mean poisoning his dog.
Fucking his niece? Cause he’s already doing amphetamines.
He skipped his classes, and I’m not sure he’s dextrous enough to pull a pin out of anything.
That is so dead on. I really want to see what those meetings are like
his last campaign was built on releasing the epstein files. everything else was secondary to the voters.
Calls his supporters “weaklings”. Bold move, let’s see how that works out…
I keep reminding people that if he holds on to power past the end of his term, he won’t need votes to do it. So his supporters are no longer useful to him.
He doesn’t care. If he can’t get reelected he doesn’t really want another republican to get the office. That way he can always say " look how everything fell apart after me"
Every one of those supporters is sitting there thinking “he means everybody but me!”
His supporters love abuse. They will change to fit his vision.
I don’t think it’s abuse they love exectly, it’s being told exactly what to think and how to act. It removes a huge amount of cognative load and uncertainty and leaves them feeling more sure of themselves.
It could create a situation where a supporter doesn’t want to be weak, so they completely shift their stance - almost denying their previous stance. I just threw some popcorn in the microwave for the upcoming show…
Reminder from Veritaseum not to eat microwave popcorn unless your body needs more PFAs
You don’t have to buy popcorn like that, you can just stick some bulk popcorn in a brown paper bag. No PFAs in that.
Right??? I don’t understand buying it prepackaged when it is so much cheaper and takes 2 second to put some popcorn in a bag yourself.
I was today’s year old when I learned that was possible. I just use the whirlypop thing.
I’m hoping PFAS have a preserving quality that will keep my skin wrinkle free long after death.
They’re clearly all masochists so it’ll probably work well.
So when do we get to the cult leader showing weakness and losing control of his enraged mob who tear him apart part?
They should Gaddafi Trump
I was thinking batman: the cult. But I get where you’re headed.
i wonder if this makes anyone go “hmm, i wonder what else he called a hoax just to cover his ass”
