• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    24 days ago

    So now our deference to cars is such that we all have to carry an extra garment just to walk the streets? That seems fine. /s

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    24 days ago

    Hi-viz doesn’t do anything. There’s no statistical difference in casualty rates between people wearing it and people not. Consider that drivers routinely plow into the back of emergency vehicles stopped by the side of the highway, completely wrapped in hi-viz, reflective material, and with million-lumen flashing lights. This is victim-blaming nonsense.

    • Pacattack57@lemmy.world
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      24 days ago

      Not necessarily true. Hi-viz markings on vehicles have proven to reduce crashes by as much as 20%.

      I don’t see why the same logic couldn’t be applied to crashes involving people.

    • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
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      24 days ago

      I’d love to see a source for that claim, because I do drive in rural areas with no street lighting, and high vi’s makes a person visible from multiple times the distance.

      Also, people driving on the back roads tend to be paying a bit more attention.

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        23 days ago

        You are correct. I forgot to qualify my statement to say that it applies on city streets. Apologies, I can’t find the YouTube video that discussed the study right now.

  • 9point6@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    Well if we’re going to unnecessarily inconvenience a group of people, I think a national 5mph limit would have a better effect

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      24 days ago

      Remember when wales lowered their speed limit and all the car brains went nuts? Yeah, same thing will happen in ireland i would wager.

  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    All cars should be preceded at a distance of no less than three and no more than six metres by a walking man waving a red flag.

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      24 days ago

      Very common in Ireland. The main contribution of the RSA (Road Safety Authority) over the past few years seems to be handing out high-vis elements to pedestrians and cyclists. The media is antropomorphising cars instead of blaming drivers, to the extent that statistics on the causes of crashes aren’t being collected.

      • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
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        24 days ago

        I mean, making sure drivers can see you seems like a very sensible thing to do. I’ve come across pedestrians on unlit roads, and any sort of high visibility clothing or a light makes them visible from multiple times the distance.

        There’s a reason cyclists are required to have lights outside of daylight hours where I live.

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          23 days ago

          I’m currently vacationing in a country where pedestrians are required to wear reflexive elements when it’s dark, and I really like that. However, putying all onus on pedestrians while not even analyzing the causes of crashes (including hit pedestrians and cyclists), which would lead to improved road infrastructure, signage and enforcement, will lead to more deaths. As long as you’re allowed to drive 80 km/h on a winding road where two cars can’t even pass each other, no amount of lights or reflective vests will save the pedestrians.

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    24 days ago

    Maybe they should also make it mandatory for pedestrians to carry rocket-propelled grenade launchers, and be trained in their operation.

    This would hopefully make car drivers to exercise more caution.

    /sarcasm that has an unfortunate chance of becoming reality in a few decades, you just watch

    • Tuxman@sh.itjust.works
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      23 days ago

      The historically accurate documentary “Team Fortress” also taught me it’s a GREAT method of transportation

  • Etterra@discuss.online
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    24 days ago

    I recommend it. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to slam on the breaks because some jackass decided to cross on the middle of a dark street in dark clothes.

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      How DARE people move around the landscape in the traditional way that humans have been locomoting for tens of thousands of years without considering YOUR needs!

      (That is, if you can’t see what’s in front of your car, you need to slow down.)

      e: typo

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        24 days ago

        It’s inexcusable in an urbanized area, there are crosswalks for a reason. We all have to share this wasteland, Andy while yeah it needs improvements, you’re just making it worse by not at least trying to play nice with others.