Morons.

  • some_designer_dude@lemmy.world
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    4 个月前

    Hey America, from over here it’s kind of obvious you have no real options for ruling parties. Red or Blue: they’ll fuck you for a buck.

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        One might be worse than the other (superficially) but you’re seeing the R’s do whatever they want without a whole lot of friction from the D’s.

        So yes: both sides couldn’t give a fuck about you. There are good people on both sides too, but the two organisms can only be judged by their respective actions. And neither fares well.

        • piefood@feddit.online
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          Not only that, but the D’s spent years building up and reinforcing the systems that the R’s are currently using.

      • OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world
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        Both sides are not the same. The Right is far worse; more corrupt, more authoritarian, more dangerous. But the Left is not without fault. What we have now is a “ratchet effect,” where the Right cranks the system further & further right, and the Left does little to nothing to crank it back to the left (or in many cases, outright stops leftward momentum).

        We have no major left-wing political representation. We either need an “Antitrump” in the Democratic Party, who will take it over and warp it to become the polar opposite of trump’s new GOP. I’m talking a full-on progressive paragon. Or we need a third major party to lure progressives and moderates who are fed up with the status quo.

        Personally I would rather have the former. It seems more likely. Though still not very likely.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    4 个月前

    I’m thinking if they saw Trump’s record and still voted for him, this isn’t gonna be the first time they get duped.

    • Jesus@lemmy.world
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      IMHO, people hyper fixated on the first couple years of Trump 1 where the economy was ok, he had experienced government officials putting up guardrails, and he coasting on what past administrations put in place.

      They thought Trump’s was blowing bow air and they thought they were going to get 2017 again.

      They are not getting 2017.

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          4 个月前

          I wouldn’t be surprised if, given the rich disinformation landscape in America, covid was destined to be an utter shit show in the USA.

          Trump sure as shit didn’t help.

  • theprogressivist @lemmy.world
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    My peers are not your rich country club conservatives. They are scrappy guys who liked Trump because he wasn’t polished or predictable. To them, he was a rebel outsider who would fight “the swamp” with all he had. I remember heated lunchroom debates where they’d argue about whether or not he could truly upend our system and its backers.

    What a bunch of fucking losers.

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      “Predictable” is quite literally the one quality you want the leader of the biggest military on the planet to have.

    • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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      It is weird because I have a similar scenario, but they voted for Trump because they’re all playing entirely within framed, false choices.

      Like, one coworker voted full R because that’s what they’d always done like their parents and community always had and that was that. Always had, always will. Policy wasn’t even on the board.

      Another went for Trump because they genuine want to see government fail, even as a government worker, because they think the Federal Government is the Evil, and the States are the shining beacon of Freedom.

      Platitudes and messaging strategies meant nothing to them. Or at least it didn’t in 2016 or 2020. I don’t know how they went 2024 since I’d left that job.

      But since then every job site I go onto with active working class labor, its just MAGA hats and bumper stickers… and/or immigrant workers. Usually they’re being set against each other by company owners who enjoy both groups lacking unions and legal protections.

      The system that needs upending is the private company boss, not the government. The bosses are the ‘backers’ that need upending. Government is the last vestige where the public actually has a say.

    • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl
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      It’s funny because trump is literally about as much as “the swamp” as you could be. Born with a golden spoon, socialized with only the elites, and personally fucked over working class people literally every chance he has.

  • 2ugly2live@lemmy.world
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    What???

    They feel duped? We been knew Trump was in kahoots with him. He’s a sexual predator, a liar, and a shitty business man. I feel like saying you’ve been “duped” shifts blame. You were not duped, you just didn’t realize you’d have to suffer with the rest of us, LIKE WE FUCKING TOLD YOU. Admit you made a selfish, shitty decision and do better.

    • pivot_root@lemmy.world
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      If their only source of media was manosphere podcasts or FOX News, I can absolutely believe they were duped. It still doesn’t absolve them of being regessive dumbasses that lack critical thinking skills, though.

  • blattrules@lemmy.world
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    4 个月前

    Weird, they were old enough to remember he didn’t live up to that campaign promise in his first term and just ended up swamping the drain even more. Did they think he was just going to do a total about face on his corruption in his second term?

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    Tired of hearing “Demographic Group X did Y” when these analyses fall apart at the state line.

    There’s no chromosome that explains your vote.

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        Human nature is a fucking bitch. You can scream till your face turns blue and your average milquetoast American will cognitive dissonance their way back to comfort. That’s why the conservatives don’t care about violating tne constituton. People aren’t a hyper evolved species. We were just apes who learned to drive and do taxes. Of course the population is full of monkey brains wired to make decisions on vibes, that’s how we got here. Empathy is just an evolutionary trait your brain decided was convenient for survival in a group, and some people literally just aren’t capable of giving a shit.

        My point is that no amount of education can force someone to empathize and it’s so god damn frustrating.

  • GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world
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    Gen Z was born 1996-2009, the oldest were 19 years old in 2016 when Trump campaigned to drain the swamp, which famously didnt work.

    Only racists and fascists voted for him after 2016. He was surprisingly open about all the terrible things that have happened so far in his second term while on the campaign trail. Although I never listened to his campaign ramblings (nor did a large chunk of his crowd), I didn’t see reports about the drain the swamp slogan after the first term.

    How did it take them 9 years to feel duped?

    • CaptPretentious@lemmy.world
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      Only racists and fascists voted for him after 2016

      Not only. I know people who don’t fall into either of those groups. They were just gullible and stupid. Sure they were perhaps pressured by someone that falls into the first group (the bigots). Never underestimate peoples proclivity for stupidity.

      • GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world
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        If we were having this conversation in 2017, I’d agree with you. However Trump announced his run over 10 years ago and has been spewing more of the same shit since then. The excuse about not knowing isn’t really valid anymore. The morons who voted for Hitler are called fascist, just as were the bigots who fervently supporter him.

  • MuskyMelon@lemmy.world
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    Hey, if you support a syphilitic pedophile rapist lying grifter, you deserve all the shit he unleashes on you.

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    Vanishingly small percentage of fucking idiots later realize they’ve been conned. Film at 11.

  • circuitfarmer@lemmy.world
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    4 个月前

    If only there had been a sign that it wasn’t a good idea to put these clowns in office. Just one more sign, on top of the million-or-so that I thought were common knowledge.