I love it when old crusty maintainers obstruct the progress of memory safe (read: Rust) code in the Linux Kernel!!!
Then venting your frustrations about that on Mastodon gets you labeled a brigading “maybe you are the problem” by Linus ((:
I’m sure there’s drama within any sort of closed source software company too. Although most of that drama will instead be project managers (the evil of this world) forcing their bullshit into the face of developers, until those developers burn out and start a potato farm.
You’ve made an enemy for life!
I think it’s mostly the other way around. The developers are chill while the user base frothing with tribalism
I think the tribalism is mostly in jest. I’ve never actually seen two Linux users seriously fighting over their preferred distro or init system or whatever.
Agreed also most of that i think comes from people thinking X is my preference but it comes out X is the best period with the “for me” being implied but not heard by the other party.
Distro? No. Wayland? Yes…
It’s both.
Christoph Hellwig, a kernel contributor, and a bunch of anti-Rust fossils, were sabotaging Rust-for-Linux projects for using their C APIs for months until Torvalds intervened, and have been actively hostile and abusive against R4L contributors until they left the project. Summary by Aussie Linux Man.
XLibre, headed by a… shall we say, interesting figure, has attracted a rabid fanbase who are frothing at the mouth and calling Wayland woke DEI garbage that will destroy Linux. The first day of the git repo saw threats of gun violence, the antisemitic (((triple parenthesis))) dog whistle, openly transphobic statements by non-developers, and the owner’s commitment to allow all of that under the banner of being “non-political”. More context here, in the comments.
XLibre, headed by a… shall we say, interesting figure
Still better than IBM/Redhat, tbh
Me, a new Linux convert, watching all the infighting over minutiae:
It’s almost humanlike
Be careful:
And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
“I love a good sitcom!”
“Oh, what’s your favourite? Friends? Seinfeld? Fesh Pince?”
“None, it’swayland-protocols”There’s a Youtube channel that mostly just follows the wayland bug tracker.
Please link?
Ouch, I don’t follow him, YT just sends me the videos all the time.
It’s officially about Linux, so I’m not sure I’ve got it right. I think it’s this one:
A sitcom about linux developers who constantly argue about minutia could actually be fun if written correctly. They could borrow a bunch of real life incidents and write them in.
GNOME: “…and that’s why I think client-side decorations are the greatest. What do you guys think?”
The camera zooms out to reveal all other desktop environments staring, stone-faced, at GNOME. After a moment, KDE speaks up:
“You really can’t help putting your foot in your mouth.”
Laugh track plays at 300% volume, followed by the Seinfeld outro.
Make the seinfeld outro deep fried, like that thomas the tank engine tune and you got yourself a deal buckaroo
Reminds me of the tabs vs spaces thing from silicon valley
what do you mean stability? i want hyprcursor on my Linux mint! :(
Fighting means that you care.
This is the other way around
Ok what is it this time? What did I miss
It beats the alternative of Microsoft’s support forums where thousands comment for weeks straight INCLUDING paid Indian “representatives” who ask for user diagnostic tool output, copy/pasting the same reply eleventeen thousand times a day, on a post from 8 years ago BUT not a single person has ever posted their solution EXCEPT “I reinstalled Windows.”
This was such a frustrating experience. I could probably count on one hand how many times I found a useful solution that wasn’t just copy paste
have you tried running sfc /scannow ?
oh, it succeeded? uh, run dism /online anway, that should work
I love the drama :3… gives me a great sense of schadenfreude. Unless the devs whose side im on are losing the debate
Then it gives me a great sense of rage. Either way, dopamine
In a few decades we’ll have Linux rainbow press delivering the newest (partially made-up) drama of Linux celebs and influencers to the senior Linux users sitting in their electric FOSS rocking chairs, talking about the good ol’ days with X11, SysVinit and no god damn sandboxing or immutability.
And they’ll feel ALIVE thanks to it.
I dunno. As a supporter of Asahi from the week the Patreon was launched, I’m pretty bummed that the lead dev got disheartened and dropped off. Kernel devs protecting fiefdoms (by blocking Rust adoption) do not a happy user make (for me).
It’s like going to a restaurant for a particular atmosphere. Just another Tuesday here. Eat your meal and move along.
What’s great about the drama is you can just ignore it and everything still works.
