• diptchip@lemmy.world
    7·
    5 months ago

    I bet that thing can’t even fuel itself with cellular respiration. Primitive machine. Over a million years under-evolved!

  • rainwall@piefed.socialEnglish
    18·
    5 months ago

    Apparently the antonym of clanker is “wireborn.” It’s bouncing around the “ai relationship” forums.

    • kromem@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      5 months ago

      That’s a very fringe usage.

      Tumblr peeps wanting to be called otherkin wasn’t exactly the ‘antonym’ to broad anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric.

      Commonly people insulting a general ‘other’ group gets much more usage than accommodating requests of very niche in groups.

      • QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        5 months ago

        I know this group of atheists, like they don’t believe in a soul or anything, who call themselves Otherkin.

        How does that even fucking work when you don’t believe in a spiritual element?

      • aeronmelon@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        5 months ago

        I say Kiwi because the original voice and actor for all the clone troopers and Jango Fett is Temuera Morrison, a New Zealander.

        Though I think “Clanker” wasn’t actually used as a word until the Clone Wars cartoon, where the clones and Fetts were voiced by Dee Bradley Baker - who is merely channeling a Kiwi accent.

  • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    34·
    5 months ago

    what’s with the recent obsession of being racist to robots, but like, ironically (in glittery pink text) lol!!!

    it’s just a joke you guys, there’s no analog to real-life slurs used against real-life people, that’s why we’re calling it “the C-word” or say shit like “clanker-lover”!!!

      • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        12·
        5 months ago

        yea but why’d ya feel the need to make a slur for it

        you can hate something without being pretend-racist towards it

          • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            11·
            5 months ago

            Picture of a yellow face, phone in hand, looking extremely defeated

            star wars didn’t force you to use it, and it certainly didn’t create “clanker-lover” or made jokes about calling it “the C-word”

            anyways you’re not addressing my point, which is why do you feel the need to use slurs in the first place

            • hansolo@lemmy.today
              3·
              5 months ago

              No. ChatGPT being overused as a “replacement” for real people doing real jobs made it an “other” against which we rally. Our disdain against which there is no victim.

              ChatGPT neither knows nor cares that I call it a Clanker. I’ll probably forget about this in a week anyway. But in a week I’ll still be reading articles about how companies that lust after money are speculatively laying off people and using AI agents as poor replacements.

              You object to the use of any slur. A slur can only be a slur when it communicates hate with the intent of harm. ChatGPT and other LLMs are incapable of feeling emotional harm more than a toaster oven. Understand that disdain for overuse at the expense of real humans is the source of the frustration. There are only human victims.

              • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                11·
                5 months ago

                that’s not my point. i know that chatgpt isn’t sentient, it can’t care about slurs because it’s unable to feel.

                if i understand correctly, what you’re saying here is that it’s fine to be pretend-racist to something that is harmful and isn’t human. it’s fine to use tools of oppression against AI because it can’t care, and can’t be affected anyways. two things about this:

                1. boy do i have news for you about the way racists view racialized people!
                2. if it can’t be affected, why bother? you’re saying that what you do is entirely pointless, why do it?

                so, the only effect of using slurs against chatbots like this is for Epic Comedy. so you and other people can partake in pretend racism, knowing that it’s ok because there is no social consequences for you! you’re saying that you’re fine with doing racism, just not towards people who might hear you and feel like shit. does that mean that it’s ok to be actually-racist in private? i sure hope you don’t think so but that seems to be what you’re saying!

                or, put more succinctly:
                Insult deflection meme. A stick figure labeled "You" is shooting a laser ray labeled "'Clanker' & co" at a stick figure labeled "chatbot who will never care because it's not sentient". That stick figure is then deflecting the ray towards a stick figure labeled "marginalized people who now know you think bigotry is funny".

                and to add a bit: i share your disdain for AI and LLMs, and the ways they (or, rather, the capitalists using them) are taking job opportunities away from people. i just don’t think you should be using language rooted in racism to express that disdain.

                • hansolo@lemmy.today
                  3·
                  5 months ago

                  Again, no.

                  Tools of oppression demand 1) someone to be oppressed, and 2) a position of power with which to oppress. Neither of those exist here. How do I with no money oppress something worth billions of dollars?

                  You mistake tools of solidarity and unification against a common enemy, which seeks to oppress, add “oppression of the oppressor.”

                  My friend… Even a Clanker is not so naive as to misunderstand this. Go ask one. It can explain it to you.