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Real talk though, Tor for porn would be an awful experience and would slow down the entire Tor network. Tor is slow to begin with, and downloading large files (like videos) only slows things down even more for everyone. It should be a last resort, not the first thing people flock to. It’s the same reason people avoid torrenting over Tor; It’s slow and inefficient, so your downloads take fucking forever.
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If literally everyone used it at all costs, websites would be forced to support traffic from it and blacklisting relays would kill the whole internet
A VPS is one of the best tools on the internet. Make your own relay, with or without blackjack and/or hookers.
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It was slow when I first tried it, decades ago, but I actually can’t tell any difference in speed these days. I use it for everything now.
You use Tor to pop out in any other more enlightened country where you use bitcoin or some other crypto to purchase access to a good vpn and download the installer.
Then download TBs of porn through your shiny new vpn subscription rather than bogging down the onion network
There is no amount of blocking the Internet that will safeguard the children effectively. The real solution is this:
seems like a great way to train for hands free orgasms.
Wet dreams happen no matter what you can do at puberty.
If this were actually done to children/teens surely their brains would not form any associations between being restrained and horny, right?
Right?
They would definiyely want to employ that, if this bullshit actually had anything to do with protecting children.
lemmy and mastodon both have lots of porn. this is a dumb waste of time.
Insert tasteless parody of the “First They Came” poem
Use tor to tunnel to a more enlightened country
buy vpn anonymously
use vpn
Just create your own VPN. Just rent a vps server in Ireland or Netherlands and install VPN software on it like OpenVPN and route your traffic through that server. You can even share your VPN with friends.
at some point i may do
Continue to buy VPNs while using other VPNs. Or use mullvad who apparently even accept cash in the post.
PIA takes bitcoin, i’ve used it myself before. easier, cheaper and less risky than sending cash in the post
You can use cash to buy gift cards, then fuel your account with 3rd party gift cards. https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/gift-card-payment (Not the most economical, but a good way to bootstrap into a VPN if more traditional payments are not available)
Also traceable unless you bought the bitcoin anonymously or mined it. Mullvad accepts Monero, which is not traceable (and also bitcoin if you really want to).
at the moment no one is going into that level of granularity. I do own some monero, if i feel the need in the future i may switch over to that completely or at least start purchasing bitcoin anonymously which is something else a VPN can help with.
Add to that the fact that if a place accepts crypto there’s a good chance that they only accept one and that is BTC
Yeah, Monero is a pain which is why a lot of people prefer mailing the money. That was my point.
Shithole country doing shithole things. The UK is acting like a red state, and their standard of living is dropping accordingly.
I’d argue that causation may be the other way around.
It’s recursive
Uk is closer to US in ideology than to europe post-brexit. also russel vought is behind all the porn bans of steam recently too, i would imagine he probably is too on this.
Even pre-brexit. The UK was never part of the EU, culturally speaking
UK was also closer to US ideology pre Brexit.
Republicans with nationalized health care and a monarchy.
I’m certain a lot of politicians and veterans are bitter over the lack of universal adoration they get in their own countries. Politicians certainly annoyed with how easy it is for victims of war and veterans against war speaking out against enlistment. Politicians and the rich want their populaces to be patriots whereas the Internet makes people jaded when learning their countries history and present in detail.
I’m certain that’s the real reason internet censorship picked up steam. The Internet has poisoned the well for so many countries when trying to build out some unified national message of righteous action. Can’t like how negative the public reacts to bills described as for child safety. Internet makes it real easy to call it another manipulative cry of wolf. It’s got to be the #1 marketing trick for the rich and powerful. #2 being those foreigners are evil. But shit now people see people across the world are mostly just getting by not even participating in politics or don’t even have any voting power and are just caught in the crossfires of the power hungry
Today there are no heros from the invasions across Asia west to east. In recent times you don’t get a marketing bump for fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia, Libya, wherever. That’s problematic for patriotism and public support for future war fighting. Every government leader now has a mixed legacy while alive that makes their memory mute in history compared to WW2 and earlier leaders who committed just as much or likely far worse terrors but enjoyed widespread domestic support while in power and adoration in retirement.
National anthems before sporting events are tacky whereas just like 15 years ago damn near everyone bought into those. I swear one day there will monitoring software and crackdowns on hitting the mute button during national anthems and commercials
Look, you are the county that came up with hooligan concept. Do try to apply it locally. I’ve seen the french act harsher for pettier reasons.
Hooliganism is members of the Working Class fighting other members of the Working Class or Foreigners due to nothing more than tribalism and enjoying violence.
It has zero to do with pushing back on those with power over them or standing up for one’s principles.
Hooliganism is actually a perfect example of the one of the ways the elites in the UK control the “lower” classes by having them discharge their anger at each other instead of going against the powerful.
It’s always been like that - panem et circenses.
Well they’re going to suddenly see a lot of transexual porn streaming through Antarctica starting… >click!< NOW.
Of course.
Good luck preventing someone from getting a vps in the another country and doing their own tunnel. It can be done in such a way is undetectable at the protocol level. Coming up next age verification for ssh.
That’s how my OpenVPN server works, Digital Ocean droplet overseas.
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What they can likely do is the same as with porn sites: require law-abiding, trusted and well-known VPN providers to do age verification, thus pushing people to more obscure and risky providers who don’t care about the law instead.
to more obscure and risky providers who don’t care about the law instead
There’s no need to go that far, there will still be plenty of well-known and trustworthy providers who care about the law but simply operate outside of UK jurisdiction.
In that case they have to geoblock UK to be out of UK jurisdiction. Which a lot of these providers are already doing.
And if they aren’t doing it themselves, the UK will likely do it for them by forcing UK network providers to block them.
Let’s say we win the fight, what do we do with all those censoring pricks ?
You can just mail cash to mullvad and include a code that links it to your account.
Why is the UK such a hell hole all the sudden? I’ve never had such a terrible opinion of the place until now with encryption and authoritarian fuckwitism against the last bastion of real democracy on the internet.
It’s always been a bit like this, actually
Yep. Politicians creating tech policy on the fly without consulting people who actually know what they are talking about.
More referring to the technofascism
All of a sudden?
This is the country where 1984 was written, where they have more cameras than anywhere else, this sort of social surveillance and quiet, polite fascism is normal for the UK.
china has that too.
When the Snowden Revelations came out, it turned out the UK did as much or maybe even more civil society surveillance as the US, and unlike the US it doesn’t even have constitutional limitations on surveillance of people on their own soil (in fact the UK doesn’t even have a written Constitution).
In the US they actually walked back on some of the surveillance (because of said constitutional protections), in the UK they just passed a law that retroactively made the whole thing legal, got the editor of the newspaper who brought out the Snowden Revelations kicked, fired a bunch of D-Notices around (the UK’s Press Censorship mechanism) out and nobody ever talked about it again.
As soon as the technology was good enough for that the UK created a Digital Stasi and it’s only gotten worse since.
and unlike the US it doesn’t even have constitutional limitations on surveillance of people on their own soil
- I’d argue the US doesn’t anymore either, or if it does, it’s only on paper. Shit, rights in general in the US are to the degree where they only exist on paper anymore, and I can think of some fascists that would get rid of the Constitution altogether and implement absolute, unbreakable rule if they could…
Trump…
- I’d argue the US doesn’t anymore either, or if it does, it’s only on paper. Shit, rights in general in the US are to the degree where they only exist on paper anymore, and I can think of some fascists that would get rid of the Constitution altogether and implement absolute, unbreakable rule if they could…
That’s always such an insane fact to me compared to how many China has. Their traffic cams are impressive
And almost all those cameras are privately owned and operated, and not integrated into any kind of centralised surveillance apparatus. More typically, they’re in place to deter graffiti or to keep drunks from pissing on the walls outside pubs. Police can and do request footage when investigating crimes, but if a camera owner’s retention policy means the footage has been deleted, that’s the end of the discussion. And such footage is useful if some arsehole has just jammed a broken beer glass into someone else’s face.
The worse forms of authoritarian overreach are the increasingly pervasive number-plate recognition cameras that track the movements of every vehicle, and the inane attempts to regulate the internet and to ban peivate use of encryption.
As for “quiet, polite fascism,” I’ve lived for extended periods in the US and the UK, and so far, despite the seemingly draconian laws, I’ve always found there to be more personal freedom in the UK. The police don’t kill people very often, people tend to ignore the laws and the government can’t be bothered to enforce the most intrusive of them, and there’s far less social pressure towards brainless conformity and mindless obedience than there is in the States.
They over there looking at America being the absolute fuck up it is and are jealous.
To be fair, they were the OGs of a prosperous stable country spontaneously shooting themselves in the head because someone convinced them they could be doing SOOO much better aaaannd it’s gone…
Haha, good point! Us ‘muricans are just posers. :p
sometimes the french are right. the brits are indeed cunts.
so seriously, this i brilliantly evil. this is the way that will allow some police state level of oversight for both social media, chats, and even vpn data will be tied to your personal file. this is so dark in every possible way. any site can be labelled porn or harmful at this point. even wikipedia. how dare the young browse the open truth of the internet? and this is already the second phase, mind police.
Don’t forget transphobia. They seem to have suddenly decided that’s a good idea in the last 3 years.
Turns out Liberals are Fascists.
Uhh no… Idiots are fascists. Some idiots may call themselves liberal but that doesn’t make it so. Liberals by definition cannot be fascist. The idiots are those that let fascists parade as anything but.
Strange how every Liberal does the things Fascists do. They must not understand Liberalism like you do.
One thing is the Political self-proclaimed Liberals mainly in the Anglo-Saxon world, a very different thing is the Political Ideology of Liberalism.
“Liberals are Fascists” definitely applies to the mainstream politicians in at least the UK, US and Canada who say they are “Liberals” and have “Liberal policies”.
Always have been, just with a better PR campaign.
UK is far from being liberal lol, they are closer to the US than not
Because they have to protect the children!! Oh why won’t anyone think of the children?!
Or the poor adults who can’t be bothered to parent their own spawn.
andrew does every night.
Tony Blair thought that the Labour Party would win if it were more like the US Democratic Party. That began an electorally successful period of unprincipled triangulation and petty authoritarianism. Eventually that momentum fizzled out due to the gloomy paranoid leadership of Gordon Brown, corruption of people like Peter Mandelson, and the loathsome hypocrisy of Blair’s lies in support of GW Bush’s second Gulf War.
Then the Conservatives got in for 14 years and fucked everything up even worse. Now the Blairite authoritarian-centrist faction is again running Labour, and so far has shown none of the political cunning that kept Blair on top. And the media fawns over the smarmy mini-Trump Nigel Farage despite his party having no policies.
You should watch some Adam Curtis documentaries to get perspective on the UK.
knowingly leaking everyones medical information, fucking surveillance camerason every corner… my opinion didn’t meaningfully change by these, they are being a hell hole for a longer time
I don’t know if it’s the root reason, but one gets scoffed at harshly by the average Tom, Dick, and Harry when suggesting that a Monarchy is an archaic and, frankly, insulting form of governance in spite of protestations that the role of the sovereign is purely ceremonial.
Simply put, they (mostly) seem to prefer political masochism, and are ruled by sadists. Sadly, in 2025, aren’t we all?
This is how you get under-18s to use Tor browser
Until the go government starts blocking entry nodes, then there will be a whole new country relying on the snowflake protocol.
Also, this doesn’t affect only people under 18, any sane adult should never send a copy of their id to anything but the government, bank, insurance or employer.
a whole new country relying on the snowflake protocol.
That would put them in the company of China, Russia, and Iran. Getting unrestricted Internet to people in those countries is why I am among those who run a snowflake node on a dedicated VPS (the link also has a simple browser addon – it’s easy to support the network, everyone should)
Yes, these moves suck for UK youth. But, anti-censorship tools do exist, and volunteers like me want people who could benefit from them, to know about & use them.
any sane adult should never send a copy of their id to anything but the government, bank, insurance or employer.
100% agree, take my upvote
Does Snowflake still work in China? Thought I read they’re now able to detect and block it.
Yeah, the newer thing to counter that is WebTunnel which came out last year. There’s considerably more setup than just starting a snowflake proxy process, and I am ashamed to say I haven’t set one up yet
Just out of curiosity how does one connect to the snowflake in the event that normal Tor does not work? (in minecraft)
In general real-time games are not great for Tor, because it introduces lots of network latency – which makes you safer
For most applications, the easiest way to Torify is via using SOCKS from the Tor Browser Bundle, which would let you simply pick Snowflake when Tor Browser starts up. I asked Perplexity for directions on running Minecraft over Tor, here ya go
If they block entry nodes, just build an entry node. They can’t block stuff inside your own network.
Ofc they can, but they don’t need to, they just seize the server and jail the operator.
Seeing this from the US scares me. I already have an elaborate system for tunneling my traffic out of the country without it appearing I’m doing so from my end devices.
But seeing this happening in the UK and knowing there’s a chance of it happening here, I really feel the need to get into China-style circumvention with shadowsocks and what have you, and I need to figure this out sooner rather than later.
Where will you peer to once these laws are active everywhere. That’s where this is actually headed
21 states have laws for age verification on porn sites. 4 more states are in the process of passing laws for age verification. That’s nearly half the states…
Quite insane honestly
