There’s no I in teams but there’s an I in office…
The Welsh : tîm
They don’t even dogfood their own technology. Why should you pay for their stuff?
I’m an industrial electrician, they make me use teams to talk to the office wanks. Kill me.
It’s the developer way. Being in office means that the team will never live with the consequences of their shit code. They’ll never fix the 10 things that annoy people every day because they don’t use it. But hey, at least they can all go to lunch together.
at least they can all go to lunch together.
Until they get a new manager who decides they have to stagger their lunch breaks
Realistically, Teams would still get tons of use from people using the IM function so they don’t have to leave their desk, and the video chat function to facilitate meetings between coworkers in different offices.
You know that at any company larger than a small startup, developers tend to have little control over what they work on, right? They can try to convince management, but ultimately the decision is not in their hands.
There’s a ton of things about our app I’d love to fix but my time is limited and other things end up taking more priority.
The whole force return to office thing is just a “we own you” moment from leadership. It doesn’t have to make sense for them. And I’ll bet you that the leadership will continue to enjoy remote work benefits. I was recently ordered back to office. The problem is I don’t actually work with or report to any of the folks at that office. So I’m just going to an office to sit on teams calls with my coworkers instead or staying home and doing the same thing.
Aren’t you excited to sit in traffic though?
Plus, also, the missed sleep that the commute will steal from you!
There is no logical argument supporting this claim.
It’s always layoffs.
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Management lives in a fantasy world of vibes and bullshit. They don’t care about the workers, the product, or the users. They are insulated from consequences.
The mega corporations need to be broken up, and replaced by smaller, worker-owned, organizations.
I work for a fairly large company and I’m constantly surprised by how much shit I do just does not matter. Me and a coworker have been working on a large project and have had to push it back several times now so that we are almost 3 months behind at this point and there are 0 consequences because none of the bigwigs are affected by it. Then as soon as someone high enough on the chain decides to give a shit half or organization will be expected to drop everything else and get it done.
Last year I busted my ass on a project with a pricetag measured in millions. 6 months later as we were finalizing the build and about to present it to the stakeholders was the moment executive leadership changed their minds and decided they didn’t want it after all. We shelved the code and will probably never use it for anything else because it was extremely specific to that project, so unless someone in executive leadership decides they want the same thing again, it’s just millions spent for literally nothing
I used to work for Comcast on their suite of mobile apps. The whole thing was just a giant fucking scam, but one aimed at the C-suite. Customers didn’t actually use the apps, they just installed them so they could get a (temporary) discount on their cable bills. The installed apps pinged our servers once a day and these were counted as “daily users”. Millions of dollars a year for absolutely fucking nothing. The C-suite eventually caught on and cancelled everything, but I was long gone by that point.
Are you me? Haha. Just kidding. It wasn’t a dev project for me. Same result. Nearly a year of work for it to get tossed. Your tax dollars at work, Canadians…
smaller, worker-owned, organizations.
Mondragon tried that, it seems to mostly work. I think the keyword is smaller, companies don’t know how to grow without hiring idiots who then become in charge.
Thank you. The only example I’ve had prior was British Telecom.
Good work.
I immediately thought of this the moment I read the post.
On your last point about it being easier to do a side task while in a meeting. It is annoying that when someone is talking about something important and then they ask someone else in the meeting:“What is your team doing about it?”, invariably the response is “doing about what? Can you repeat the question?” Delaying and extending meeting time.
Or later asking questions about what was said in the meeting. Really annoying.
And by the way, probably all of us have at some point been the distracted one.
Thats why you have the phrase about a meeting that should have been an email.
Microsoft Teams is such a bad product that Microsoft needs all engineers back in the office 😂
Microsoft Everything is such a bad product that Microsoft needs all engineers to work somewhere else. Finally, the corporate tendency to fire fucking everyone makes sense.
Advocating person to person contact for higher productivity, while at the same time celebrating less personal contact because A.I. can take over support calls.
Advocating person to person contact
😏
The data does not bear out the assertion that it’s actually higher productivity. They just don’t want to pay for empty real estate. It’s a sunk cost fallacy.
Meanwhile, my company was asking us why do we even want an office, can’t we all just work from home? That was years before the pandemic (when Google bought the building we were leasing and the company had to find a new one).
So as soon as the first lockdown happened they immediately closed the office and said everyone is fully remote now. They did give us money to set up a home office, but overall they saved a ton by getting out of an expensive rent (I’ve heard $1m/yr) and getting rid of all the perks we had in office (free breakfast and lunch, snacks, beer and kombucha on tap, unlimited coffee, gym membership, etc.). I don’t imagine them ever deciding to go back to that.
So these assholes made Teams so bad they had to go back into office, and then they make it everyone else’s problem?
Have they considered the PWA though 🤷♀️
