The 17-year-old suspect from Garwood — a son of a retired police officer and the nephew of the Westfield police chief — was charged Wednesday with the first-degree murders of Maria Niotis and Isabella Salas.
Relatives of Niiotis said the teen had been stalking her for months — something the teen suspect acknowledged on livestreams of his MLB co-op games, which attracted thousands of followers on TikTok.
To protect & serve themselves
What’s extra fucked up is before the murder happened the family tried to get help from the police but they didn’t do anything because the MAGA psycho is from a cop family.
Qualified immunity is some high level bullshit.
Negligence should not ever be off the table to sue for.
Further proof that many cops aren’t accidentally useless, they’ll jerk themselves off about protecting their community, but readily deny assistance to someone that they can justify not giving a fuck about. Fucking pieces of shit, they hung those two girls out to dry while they were being actively stalked.
Capricious cops who conduct selective law enforcement are the worst.
They did something: they immediately distanced themselves from him once the news picked up this story. The reporting is terrible bc a lot is via NJ.com which is a garbage site but he is the nephew of the chief of police (his dad, the chiefs brother, is also a cop), and the chief was very quick to make a statement that was basically like “hey fuck this kid, not my family (except he literally is)”.
He also initially got away with it. Despite the fact that she had a restraining order and a history of issues with this boy he runs her and her friend down in cold fucking blood going 3x the speed limit. So what do the cops do? Give him 15 tickets and let him go home of course. And what does he do? Immediately livestreams and talks about the crime like he didn’t just straight up murder them.
I mean maybe I’m crazy but this reeks of Elliot Rodger misogynist incel shit. People just want literally everything to be politics now. Tbf that is more right wing but it’s not necessarily political as much as it’s nihilism. I’m sure the Charlie Kirk thing was true but it’s probably the spark that set off the misogynistic bomb. Like he wasn’t going out to murder libs, if that makes sense? He was looking for an excuse to murder this girl that he felt owed him sex or whatever. Real bad shit
3x the speed limit is also 8x the kinetic energy, which for a 2,000 kg vehicle is about 1 Mega-joules
*9x
You have to remember the imperial to metric conversion.
And what does he do? Immediately livestreams and talks about the crime like he didn’t just straight up murder them.
Isn’t that a trait of serial killers? Bringing up the murder they committed to give it fame while preemptively denying any blame and attributing it to bullying.
Eh. A lot of “traits of serial killers” have extremely weak or no evidence base. AFAIK the constellation of bedwetting, setting fires, and animal abuse is the only real evidence based set of personality traits (which was still extremely weak). And even then it’s widely anecdotally repeated that any of these behaviors counts the way you describe (“he abused animals? That’s a sign of being a serial killer!!”) when the Macdonald triangle was considered a predictor with all three behaviors in conjunction.
But generally even that is considered kind of crap nowadays. predictors in the modern sense are more predictable and less salacious: significant neglect and abuse history, empathy issues, antisocial behavior, impulsivity, and narcissism. But this list is so vague (intentionally so) because it’s less about predicting “serial killers” (which is a foolish game) and more about predicting who is at risk of committing violent crime.
The Charlie Kirk thing is reference to comments he made while streaming after. It could just be the thing that broke him out doesn’t necessarily have to be the root cause.
Instant. Death. Penalty. We’re heading towards 10 billion on the planet in 25 years, we simply don’t have the room to entertain these defectives. Call it eugenics if you want, and that’s exactly what it is and what we need. Too. Bad. Boo. Hoo.
Are you sure you’re not on the wrong platform?
Uh oh, it’s the platform police making sure there aren’t illegal posters on “their” site. Do you make siren sounds when posting?
but you’re using a tiny site instead of the huge eugenicist site
I honestly don’t understand the problem with eugenics. We improve everything else, for sure I would change a few things about myself, and I don’t have kids because I don’t want my garbage DNA in other people. What’s wrong with that?
You need to understand that this has already been discussed and settled by civilized people. You can read about it if you really don’t know, but there’s nothing new to be said.
Right, uh huh, no innocents were ever hurt by state murder so it’s all good then, you say?
Right, and no innocents were ever hurt by releasing violent nutters? “State murder”, what do you call sending soldiers overseas in your latest democracy spreading experiments?
Fuck off eh I am no yank
Also, nice precrime thinking
Welcome to the blocklist
They’re an idiot and I don’t agree with them. I want to make that very clear. I just want to know your thought process by telling them you’re blocking them? Like, what are you expecting to accomplish?
Modelling behaviour for the noobs, I’m guessing.
Oh fuck NO anything but that! Please PLEASE reconsider! My universe is shattered. Shattered I tell you.
Should be charged as an adult with only seeing the picture of the jeep and bike, jfc
What dumbass country is this where you can drive a jeep the size of a tank without being an adult?
Those links are not good sources, read these ones instead:
This guy is being charged as a minor? Come the fuck on. He is 17! Charge this guy as an adult and put him away for life. No room for people like this in soceity.
I mean, he would fit perfectly in ICE
He’s the son of a cop. We’re lucky he isn’t just getting administrative leave.
I’m sure he’ll get a job offer to join the family business soon enough
They really said yeah you’re old enough to be responsible for driving a two tonne vehicle - but then if you use it to intentionally ram two young girls to death in cold blood now you’re not old enough to be responsible for that - gotta be charged as a child.
They can always change up to adult later but it’s more difficult to move from adult to minor if things go wrong.
Tell that to Trump
Stalking them and the family tried to get the cops to help and allegedly the cops did nothing because the father is a cop and is related to the chief.
Cops aren’t around to protect us. That’s our job.
the cops did nothing because the father is a cop
They should be charged as accessories. After all, that’s what they would do if a civilian knew about a murder plot and decided not to tell anyone about it.
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Oh, you thought he was going to prison? Sorry to say, but daddy Trump will probably make him a national hero.
that’s like two more people than the guy who shot Charlie?! wtf
Ahh, so he targeted a few defenseless young females. That’s about as masculine as MAGAts get
Sure. But why are you, a Ferengi, posting on Lemmy? Don’t you have some profit you should be out earning? How do you plan to gain entrance to the Divine Treasury at this rate?
Also, you owe me $225 in consulting fees for posting this comment.
Sounds like someone’s headed for the Vault of Eternal Destitution.
Thank GOD he wasn’t Trans! OTHERWISE Murdering Two Children in Revenge for your Favorite Political Figure would be BAD NEWS and TERRORISM! THIS American was just a Misguided Good Christian (UNLESS we Find out he knew a Trans Person once!)!
Are we positive he wasn’t wearing drag at the time of the murder or muttering children’s stories to himself?
he was stalking the girl, he was upset because he didn’t get his way… he found an excuse to harm her… it wasn’t because he was Maga, it was because she didn’t see how perfect he was for her or some bullshit like that
Both are symptoms of the same mental illness
I’m just sick of everything having to be about the left, right, Democrats, or Republicans… why can’t it just be about a stalker who was allowed to cause harm to somebody because nobody took actions to stop it
Because the far right lionizes pieces of shit who agree with their views and this particular piece of shit is hoping it will happen to him.
Probably because of all the stochastic terrorism
because mental ilness and beinf far right has been proven again in many studies, stop trying to “this is not a conservative thing” Democrats overwhelming dont do mass shootings, or murders like this.
The alt-right is certainly targeting men, so it is correlated, but I think it’s important to note that these girls were targeted because of their gender first and foremost. The ‘Charlie Kirk’ aspect was just the excuse provided by the perpetrator. There’s a deeper issue at play and should be acknowledged.
I’ve never been truly stalked before, but I started working early and naively had a picture on OKCupid (when it was new and all the rage) when I was 18. I had a guy I never actually talked to show up at my work and seek me out. I was 18 and dumb, but I’m glad I learned that lesson. It could have been so much worse.
Im mentally ill, I never stalked or killed anyone, whats your point?
Days before the deadly crash, while hosting an online baseball game live-streamed on YouTube on Sept. 23, the suspect talks about sending a pizza to “Maria’s house” by using his old iPhone as a burner because his number had been blocked. The suspect says he will order the pizza for cash on delivery.
“I think Maria’s hungry. I think we’re going to send her two pizzas. So you all know I have a vengeance against this girl for accusing me of sending porn and s**t. I’m going to call a pizza to her house.”
He also says Maria’s mother has a "stupid f**kin’ name and accused her of reporting the porn.
“So Fouli, you made a bad decision making a bad name of myself. You made a bad decision having this girl return to that school without me being there,” the teen says on the video, referencing the girl’s mother.
Someone watching the stream suggests he go to the house and watch the pizza be delivered. He rejected the idea because the mother called the police before.
read the whole article, the guy was a fucking pig and a creep, being egged on by a livestream “community” of creeps and pigs.
Don’t throw a no context “oh he’s just mentally ill” with no further comment, you make me sick
You’re certainly reading a lot into my comment that I didn’t say.
This is the sociopathy of the alt-right. I said nothing about all mental illness in general.
people can have ASPD & still use cognitive empathy & never harm people. not to mention how this murderer wasn’t diagnosed with anything like ASPD or NPD etc.
if someone’s a vile, cruel, misogynistic, racist, murderer, we can just call them that. we can get creative with our insults without letting an already vulnerable population catch any strays.
Cop Family, go figure.
While the President of the US states he wants to criminalize the wrong political beliefs.
Imagine being such a loser that you simp for kirk
Imagine being such a loser you do nothing while your country is being turned into a fascist dictatorship.
I am not American
Wasn’t taking about you.
