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      The DOJ is under Trump, so that’s a non-starter. Speaker Johnson is keeping the House closed down so our new Congresswoman from Arizona can’t get sworn in and cast the deciding vote to force release.

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    This is Trump’s DOJ and reps from Trump’s party reporting this?

    MAGA is all about fire hoses of horror and disinformation. If conservative-owned, left-leaning mainstream media is reporting on this and info is being attributed to assumed loyalists, then there is something WAY worse going on or about to happen that isn’t being reported, isn’t there?

    At this point, I can’t tell if I need to take off my tin-foil hat or if Rowdy Roddy just nut-smashed some glasses on me. Good lord, I need a nap.

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      No need for tin foil hats, it’s really bad in those files.

      “A few GOP house members say they’ve heard from FBI/DOJ contacts that the Epstein files (with copies in different agencies) are worse than Michael Wolff’s description of Epstein photos showing Trump with half naked teenage girls,” Shuster wrote.

      That comment points to an earlier interview with Trump biographer Michael Wolff, who told the Daily Beast in October that he had personally seen “about a dozen Polaroid snapshots” of Trump and Epstein. Wolff said the photos showed Trump with “several topless young women on his lap,” and that Epstein “pulled the photos out of a safe and spread them out like a deck of cards” while Wolff was visiting. According to the author, Epstein wanted him to write a book about his life.

      If that sounds incriminating, Shuster’s report suggests the DOJ’s files could be even worse.

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        Yes, but the fact that every time we hear about something unimaginably horrible and shocking, it turns out that something even more horrible and shocking was happening in the background.

        Which is why I say with paranoia, “tin foil hat’s saying there’s something worse than the thing that’s worse than Polaroids of Trump with naked children.”

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    Is there another article about this? The Daily Boulder doesn’t have the best credibility

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    How can it be worse than we all thought?

    Did they honestly think he was only in the files thousands of times (I assume it’s that high since they had that many agents redacting his name) just for being best friends with the pedophile running a massive human trafficking ring?

    If they’re drinking their own koolaid they’re fucked.

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      It could be because it was his business venture to begin with and Epstein was just the manager.

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    I’d rather LOSE ALL MY HEALTHCARE AND FOOD then to Allow Trump to be found GUILTY of RAPING LITTLE CHILDREN!

    -Literally EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN VOTER!

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      I’d rather LOSE ALL MY EVERYONE’S HEALTHCARE AND FOOD then than to Allow Trump to be found GUILTY of RAPING LITTLE CHILDREN!

      Fixed it for you.

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        “then” is incredibly accurate for the spelling and grammar level of MAGA peons though.

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      the russian mods suppress any news critical of trump, or any that does not adhere to russian backed propaganda, like they did with luigi, and remember when trump was railing on putin, and putin retaliated by using his propaganda machine to post all epstein related news against him.

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        There was a lot of anger about Epstein files a few months ago but how they just post anti-immigration propaganda

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        It’s lots of people’s plan. Nearly every actual human dislikes the corporate-owned government, and it’s been an oligarchy for ages.

        A successful revolution will need the support of many people who were right about the problem but wrong about the solution.

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      If you mean revolution, nobody is anywhere close to credibly being able to try.

      If you mean just big change next election, I can’t say it’s impossible, although I suspect the playing field will be made pretty uneven.

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          More like a group. Any group that would even contemplate it is a joke in the US. And hivemind revolutions where everyone rises up independently have never happened; there’s always a counterelite giving orders and enforcing internal compliance with them.

          I mean, you can barely get people to vote spontaneously, forget risk taking a bullet. The whole idea of it being spontaneous basically comes out of propaganda written after revolutions (good or bad) to manufacture legitimacy. Now, a coup by someone already in power is another matter. That’s basically in process already in the US.

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            What if we rely on direct action that makes each participant better off, like unions? IMHO the problem with relying on people to vote spontaneously is that it’s cooperating on a prisoner’s dilemma.

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              Yeah, I do activism as well. Particularly the boring kind nobody else shows up for. It doesn’t really contradict any of this.

              Although if I was in America I don’t think I’d bother. Who knows if unions will even be legal in a few years? (Well, I’d guess the MAGA ones will last, but it’s an example) Edit: Getting out would be the main priority, and maybe helping others do so.

              IMHO the problem with relying on people to vote spontaneously is that it’s cooperating on a prisoner’s dilemma.

              What do you mean? There’s no penalty for voting, and more or less anyone can run, so it’s not like there’s nobody to vote for. The only good reason not to is just the hassle.

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                That’s exactly it. To a selfish individual, the time cost is far greater than the benefit of one additional vote.

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                  Exactly. And the cost only goes up from there. There isn’t really an easy solution to the world’s problems unfortunately, because we made them in the first place. I try anyway.

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    Meanwhile, Shuster says “more than 100+ Republicans” are preparing to side with Democrats on a bipartisan discharge petition led by Reps. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) and Thomas Massie (R-Ky.). The petition, which would force a vote to release the Epstein documents, is just one signature away from success.

    So we might even get to see it.

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          Yeah, how many people in his movement change their mind, how many decide it’s all fake news, and how many decide it’s just the cost of doing business is a real question.

          People outside the MAGA movement have already been sidelined, of course.

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            it’s so obvious what’s about to go down, when trump finally croaks (or in the unlikely event R’s grow a pair of testicles and finally turn on trump).

            those old guard ghouls of the previous establishment republicans will crawl out of the woodworks, with many establishment neolib dem hands helping them along the way. like those of their billionaire buddies Newsom and Pritzer, who have had so much media success “keeping it real” vs. trump (all while ICE rips into their poor communities unfettered).

            establishment R and establishment D will come out in force to impose order, attempt to reign in that conservative propaganda machine, placate progressives away from true reform etc. in the vain hope of trying to return to that unsustainable constant ratfuckery

            and the worse part is it’ll probably work

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        they cant afford to side against trump or his magats will do death threats and primary the gop from congress with more magats.

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        they cant afford to side against trump or his magats will do death threats and primary the gop from congress with more magats.

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        Yeeaaaahhh, doesn’t matter. I still want to see each and everyone that profited from trumps crimes in anyway locked up.

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        IIRC it mentions right in the article nobody else can really cleanly replace him. There’s tons of different subfactions with different ideas and the personality cult is the main thing holding them together.

        I suppose if Vance could get enough signatures to declare Trump unfit for office, he’d have a decent opening to consolidate power. If.

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      These will never be seen. This is the kind of stuff people get assassinated over … Likely people already have been assassinated over it.

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    So they are just getting up to speed on what the rest of us have known for years now. Cool. Do something about it.