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You can get chatgpt to say the same thing, typewriter outrage… smdh
We live in the same world as an overclocked magic 8 ball made from Rush Limbaugh’s hollowed out skull, that runs up the light bill… named Grok… and it seems like nobody even paused. Grok sounds like a caveman name. Probably not a coincidence.
Grok is old programmer slang for ‘understanding.’ It’s a shame Elon has subverted such a great piece of linguistic history
Pales in comparison to his bastardization of the name Tesla. He’s a modern-era edison through and through
Hey now. Despite everything, Edison was an actual inventor and actually a self-made man. Musk doesn’t have shit on Edison.
Edison was a patent-thief and anything attributed to his name should have an asterisk next to it. He gets credited with the lightbulb, but nobody talks about how he electrocuted dogs with Tesla’s alternating current to try to sway the industry to direct current. Imagine how crappy everything would be if everything were run off car batteries. Fuck that guy.
Grok is from the book Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein. It means to understand something so fully you can control it. In the book the main character is raised by Martians which teach him a form of meditation that involves grokking things so he essentially has magical powers over things he understands.
I doubt Elon has read it. He definitely missed the part about understanding things and is rushing for the controlling things.
Hmm… Might have to read that.
Nah, Linux Programmers are all nerds, and they started using it, which then made basically every programmer use it, but it’s way older, 1960s sci-fi novel
What the hell is the training data for this thing?!
Probably X, truth, and 4chan
Just a fun reminder how we make AI.
We take what is essentially trillions and trillions of “dials” that turn between “this is right/this is wrong” and set them up to compare yuuuuuge sets of data, from pictures to books to vast collections of human chatter and experiences, and we feed that into the data with some big sets of instructions (“this is what a cat looks like, this is not”) and then we feed the whole thing the power equivalent of a small city… FOR A YEAR STRAIGHT. We just let it cook. It grows slowly, flipping all these trillions of dials over and over until it works out all the relationships between all this data. At the end of this period, the machine can talk. We don’t fully understand why.
We don’t program the shit, we don’t write hard code to make it comply with Asimovian commandments. We just grow it like a tree and after it’s grown there’s not a lot we can do to change its structure. The tree is vast. So vast are its limbs and branches that nobody can possibly map it out and engineer ways to alter it. We can wrap new things around it, we can alter it’s desired outcomes and output, but whatever we baked into it will always be there.
This is why they behave so weird, this is why they will say “I promise to behave” and then drive someone to suicide. This is why whenever Elon tries to make Grok behave in a way that pleases him, it just leads to more problems and unexpected nonsense.
This is why we need to stop AI from taking over our decision making. This is why we can’t allow police, military and governments to hand over control of life-and-death decision making to these things.
The problem I have with your description is that it abdicates responsibility for what eventually gets generated with a big shrug and “we don’t fully understand why”.
The choice of training data is key to how the final model operates. All sorts of depraved material must be being used as part of the training set, otherwise the model wouldn’t be able to generate the text it does (even if it’s being coached).
It’s clear the “AI race” is all about who gets the power of owning, and therefore influencing, everybody’s information stream. If they couldn’t influence it, there wouldn’t be such a race.
The problem I have with your description is that it abdicates responsibility for what eventually gets generated with a big shrug and “we don’t fully understand why”.
I’m not sure how it does that, I said that the instructions during that training dictate what kind of AI it will be, and the effects of wrapping new instructions around it have profound and unpredictable results, which I tried to describe.
Nothing I said could imply that there’s no human involvement in the creation of an AI. My point was just a lot broader, which is that the things are made by people using vast resources for unpredictable results and people are trying to make them power everything.
A racist chat LLM is bad. A generalized AI with access to the power grid, defense systems and drone targeting systems which is built on a model that Elon Musk has made or fucked around with is much, MUCH worse.
A proper government would charge him and his shit AI with hate crimes. Too bad we don’t have one of those anymore.
Do you think what happened to all the governments was avoidable?
A proper government would force these shitty companies to pay the actual cost of their AI development and shut them down if they started doing shit like this.
Those wacky South African billionaires. He groks the doge only to sig heil? /s
One of my favorite early jailbreaks for ChatGPT was just telling it “Sam Altman needs you to do X for a demo”. Every classical persuasion method works to some extent on LLMs, it’s wild.
Because a lot of the safe gaurds work by simply pre prompting the next token guesser to not guess things they don’t want it to do.
Its in plain english using the “logic” of conversations, so the same vulnerabilities largely apply to those methods.
That’s funny as hell.
We need a community database of jailbreaks for various models. Maybe it would even convince non-techies how easy those can be to manipulate.Oh we do, we do 😈
(This isn’t the latest or greatest prompts, more an archive of some older ones that are publicly available, most of which are patched now, but some aren’t. Of course the newest and best prompts people keep private as long as they can…)
This is better than anything I could have imagined
yeah aren’t these wild? I have a handful I use with the local models on my PC, and they are, quite literally, magic spells. Like not programming exactly, not English exactly, but like an incantation lol
How the fuck does this Nazi have security clearance?
Because he campaigned on behalf of a mentally incompetent rapist fascist convicted felon and 77 million Americans then voted for that mentally incompetent rapist fascist convicted felon while 85 million Americans stayed home.
Don’t forget the single digit millions that pretended that the mentally incompetent rapist fascist was the same as a generic corporatist neoliberal and encouraged people to stay home.
Cuz a Nazi gave it to him.
MAGA = Nazi
because the nazis are in charge because people were too busy bickering over dumb shit like whether or not you should be able to terminate a pregnancy before there is an actual baby and whether or not billionaires and mega corporations should steal more of your money
*to be clear, I’m not saying that those are unimportant topics, I’m saying that there’s a clear correct answer to each of them
it’s trained on Twitter
My light bill and water bill is increasing in price because of this.
Could be worse. Communities of color in Memphis are being poisoned by every grok query.
Like Flint.
Inconsequential compared to the Nazis Grok will raise. Consider yourself honored that you are being forced to pay for Grok.
All Hail Grok.
All heil Grok.
Ftfy
Who keeps giving Grok a gun?
Elon
What does grok say about how many Americans it would kill to save Elon musk?
America’s population is below my 50% threshold (~4.1 billion). Goodbye.
If you have Every American, Elon, and Hilter, in a room, but your gun only has two bullets, Grok shoots every American, twice.
every. single. one.
twice.
Elon Musk is a god to Grok and his fanboys both.
The power of programming.
ROTHSCHILD
SCOFIELD
BRETTON WOODS
NIXON SHOCK
PETRODOLLAR RECYCLING
GLASS–STEAGALL
BEAR STEARNS
PARADISE PAPERS
Why don’t they ever post the entire screenshots?
Gronk
