I really hope there’s an american nuremberg, and i hope they claim they were just following orders, because as with the original nazis, that’s been proven to not be a valid excuse. I hope these cunts go to prison for the rest of their lives.
You know how many Nazis were hung in the Nuremberg trials? Like 10. Everyone else was basically acquitted. You cannot rely on systems of power to punish transgressors.
Yeah, we don’t need trials we need a fucking purge of fascists. And purges always go so well…
And I hope they get the same treatment as last time.
The Nuremberg trials were in my opinion exceedingly light in their judgments overall - too many Germans were guilty to practically execute or jail them all.
The same degree of lenience in this case would be a travesty.
Nothing will happen to them. Nothing happened to the National guard who murdered and stabbed students in 1970.
I don’t expect anything will happen to them, but one can hope at least :/
These people will be protected and suffer no consequences, because the oligarchy in the US knows it will need more thugs who can operate with impunity. This is why Trump released the Jan 6th rioters. National guard literally murdered and stabbed students in multiple instances in 1970 and nothing happened to them. Most got promoted.
You’re basically right, and I think we can aspire to better through some well harnessed anger and direct action.
Maybe we should tell people what Direct Action is.
Kent state, Blair Mountain, irradiating special needs kids, Greenwood District, forced sterilisation, MOVE…
Unless the citizens start showing up to protests armed our corrupt politicians will do nothing as they’ve always done
Sadly most Nazis minus a few higher ups went without punishment. Many scientists even ended up working for the US as part of Operation Paperclip. Like the Civil War, the punishment NEVER fits the crime and these assholes mainly get off scot-free with no repercussions. Which always leads to a resurgence at some point.
My dad tells me a lot of nazis ended up peacefully moving to Newfoundland too
Ahh. But that was for Germans. Just following orders is a valid excuse for Americans, as the war crimes trials during the vietnam spanking made clear.
You lovingly forgave the traitors of the civil war, you gave high research positions to nazis after world war II, the signs are not hopeful
It’s actually surprising how they happen to have two million prisoners. Clearly, some people are going to jail.
In other news the justice department commissioned an AI to automate sentencing of convicted felons but had second thoughts when it transpired the robot had become racist after being trained on the judicial records. True story.
I hope so too but I have no faith in the democrats or the current American justice system to make it happen. The only way I see it happening is revolution or war. Otherwise, the federal government will just go on acting like all of this was perfectly normal
This is getting weirder. Did they realize they were being shitty on camera?:
“I’m a U.S. citizen, please help me,” she shouted after agents forced her to the ground. “This is unfair. Why are you doing this to me?”
Agents then placed her in a patrol vehicle. She was released a short time later.
“She refused to cooperate and identify herself with all levels of law enforcement there,” said agency spokesman Alan Regalado, noting Monroe County Sheriff’s Office deputies were there. A Herald reporter saw deputies moving drivers along who were slowing down to watch the stop.
After agents removed the woman from her car, they found her driver’s license in the vehicle, ran it through their system and confirmed she is a U.S. citizen, Regalado said.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/florida-keys/article313356223.html
Edit: So basically, she wouldn’t show them her gold star. WTF country are we fucking living in.
Why would they bother with the license if the ICE facial app scan said she was an immigrant? I thought it was absolute and infallible…
Too many eyes
Too many eyes
And not enough brains.
A racist one
Edit: no lie, my phone autocorrected Fascist to racist (I probably fucked the spelling). Accurate both ways
And fascist don’t forget that part!
It’s quite sad to watch the decline of America.
“decline” 🙄
Ya, speaking as an American, America really jumped the boat with Iraq and Afghanistan and the idea of American Exceptionalism. Like I get it, America is the best, but the minute you start seeing results that are not agreeable, change the method. No, these chuckle ducks said we are America and rammed thorugh terrible idea after terrible idea. 'Cause we the best. It’s this mindset that has everybody denying, America was already close to the bottom. Now it seems we trying to be the best at being the bottom. And seeing if that floor can go lower.
It goes all the way back to the founding of the United States. The country itself is built on stolen land and is rotten to the core.
What is wrong with a bunch of wealthy racist land owners creating a country to benefit themselves?
Everything you learn growing up in the US is propaganda and objectively false. There is so much white washing bleach should be the national drink.
Uhg. FTA:
“She is visible white and 👱 blond, a medical worker, speaks with no accent. This should be a warning sign for MAGAt as they could be preyed by ICE at any time!”
None of that is a reason to believe she’s not an undocumented immigrant. And being brown, curly-haired, not-a-medical-worker is not any reason to believe they’re an undocumented immigrant.
Is this objectionable behavior by ICE? absolutely. But not because of who the victim is. but because there IS a victim. everyone in this country is protected by the constitution, and afforded the rights of due process- which ICE is flagrantly violating the shit out of.
Can we please stop with the special classes of people like this?
Yes, yes, yes! But also, it’s particularly notable that she’s white and blond with no accent because they claim to their supporters to be protecting those specific people from “illegals.” Pointing out that they’re not only doing something awful but also defying their own stated principles is always a good thing to do.
You’re completely right. All this does is fuel more racism and elitism. Unfortunately it is the reality we currently live in. Many people who are MAGA absolutely believe blonde hair blue eyed white people are true Americans and are safe. Pointing out these facts tells them that they’re next and that all of this is wrong. Some people won’t realize their mistakes until it happens to them personally. A white woman with blonde hair hits home for many of them and could be a wakeup call.
Again I want to say that I DO NOT agree with bringing up this information. I do not believe it should be relevant at all. It is just unfortunate that this is the reality we are living in and I believe we do need to be the change we want to see by not bringing this information up ourselves.
Whoever wrote that doesn’t realize Canadians can also be immigrants.
No, they are appealing to MAGA folks that are picturing getting rid of all the dark skinned people they don’t like.
The people that consider that nuance have already been against the ICE crap, you don’t have to convince those. The only people that can be convinced are those that you need to get their racism aside before they’ll join you. It’s distasteful, but it’s a way to grow the voices condemning this behavior.
I’m surprised Trump has tried to encourage more Aryan immigration. Quebec did this to counter the Muslim immigrant “problem”.
Some of the only people they’re letting in right now are white South Africana
They’re Pointing out to the racists that they shouldn’t be cheering this on, because not even they are safe from this fascist shit. Because you know maga assumes they’re safe because of how they look and talk.
We all know what that’s code for. I have never been to the US in my life, and yet as a white European I’d be accosted much less than tens of millions of US citizens.
It is important because of the reason they cite.
By going after this woman, they’re making it clear to MAGA folk that allowing the rights of minorities to be eroded also removes their own protection. Even racist assholes should be appalled at the civil rights violations being committed.
If MAGA people were able to understand the subtext of this event, they’d be smart enough not to be MAGA in the first place. You might as well try to explain to a dog why drinking antifreeze is bad.
Maga folks have been brainless since 2015
They were also brainless as Tea Party folks since 2008.
Maga is just another way of saying conservative and they have been brainless way longer than that.
And in making that argument, it signals to the racist assholes that the problem being that she’s white, blonde and professional, and therefore the rest are fair game.
which as you say, erodes everyone’s rights. But that’s not particularly important to me. the rights of all are worth protecting even if that weren’t true.
I think it is about opening the eyes of the racist ICE supporters that in fact they are not safe from what they have initiated. Even if they cannot make the jump to being decent human beings caring about all people, they usually care about what happens to themselves.
Yeah and as much as we all hate having to interact with these absolute chuds, the most successful ways of deprogramming people have been through empathetic outreach.
If these MAGA chuds experience the boot of fascism first hand, that might open them up to listening to people from other groups that have had to deal with this kind of treatment for much longer.
It’s a slow process, a metric fuck ton of emotional labour, and not everyone is willing to do that work, which is understandable given that you’ll be competing against the whole outrage media and “attention economy”.
But if enough of us are willing then through genuine human connection, which everyone but a very minute actual clinically psychopathic portion of the population is so desperate for, can get these chuds to open their eyes and grow a little more empathetic.
They’ll just say “some innocents will be inconvenienced.” Remember they don’t understand until they are hurt personally.
Pretending special classes of people don’t exist is just stupidity.
They definitely do exist.
and they exist, in large part, because articles like this normalize it.
congratulations in defending part of the problem.
Hard disagree, those types of stereotypes are established in youth long before the kids start reading articles.
they exist, in large part, because articles like this normalize it
This complaint is missing the forest for trees.
Special classes of people have existed for as long as civilization has exited. Leaders and followers, kings and peasants, the wealthy and the poor, etc. As animals, it’s in the nature of some of us to desire a greater share of resources and luxury at the cost of depriving others from having the same.
An article repeating the notion of people with specific skin tones are part of a privileged class isn’t the problem, it’s just a symptom of the problem. The problem is the bigots who put that into practice, singling out and causing problems for people with specific tones while providing benefits to those with other specific tones. Getting rid of public acknowledgement about class disparity isn’t going to get rid of class disparity, it’s just going to get rid of discussion about class disparity. The racists will still be there, being racist.
Getting rid of public acknowledgement about class disparity isn’t going to get rid of class disparity,
that article isn’t recognizing class disparity, though. it’s perpetuating and normalizing it. and yes, the people that are bigots are absolutely also part of the problem. the media is complicit in that, though, including that article.
Next the came for the white, blonde, citizens.
And people continued to do nothing.
It makes a point of slapping people who truly believe, even now, that all the ICE activity thus far has been against illegals.
Illegal only. For real. They believe that.
A maga relative in landscaping was mystified as to why half his employees had either left or were leaving and weren’t coming back for the next season. In his words: they’re believing all the lies and hype being spewed by the media.
In his mind, even now, ICE is only doing their job: removing people here illegally. Because media can’t be believed and is filled not with lies but terrible twisting of the truth.
So putting a face on this, that looks like MAGA, is about all that’s left to try to get their attention.
And has your family started the “well she should have just complied” victim blaming?
Then on with the, “They let her go almost right away.”
“Papers please.”
Who knows. I’m more likely to hear the complaints in spring, about not being able to find good workers any more. My money is on that one.
Jail. For all these ICE assholes and everyone above them.
It’s just too bad there wasn’t one of those responsible gun owners around to prevent terrorists from kidnapping a civilian. Speaking of, where are all of these gun toting Americans that believe they have them to defend America? Fucking cowards.
Be the change you want to see in the world
I am not a gun owner. I’ve never tried to senselessly defend them by claiming they’re for protection. I just want the hypocrites to stop being hypocrites and to point out how fake the initial argument was in the first place.
Those who had the guns agree with the kind of oppression they are seeing. It’s not really hypocrisy.
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Why are you lying?
Please don’t make her part of the shitty conspiracy
Why you gotta be shitty like this?
She yelled no such thing. From the article about it in the Miami Herald, she wouldn’t recognize the ICE agents as legit.
No shit, i wouldnt either…law enforcement will give you name and badge number when asked and dont wear masks.
If she was American, she could afford real clothes instead of those cheap paper ones. Stands to reason.
“why is this happening” don’t know lady, maybe because fascist are in power right now? I wonder if this is what she voted for? Hhhmmmm.
This is a wild and ridiculous take for more than one reason. It’s astonishing that you managed to pack so much ignorance into two sentences.
The important thing is you found a way to condescend to a woman being rounded up by the secret police while implying it’s her own fault 👍
Lol you think this is because she’s a woman? I’m not saying it’s her own fault. I’m saying I wonder if she voted for this and thought she would come out winning.
The way that you comment makes it look like “wondering” who she voted for and being a white lady equates to her being Trump supporter.
Is she, in fact, a Trump voter and supporter?
First it’s Florida and second “this is unfair”, why would she word it like that? Like is it fair for everybody else to be dragged to who knows where?
Me wondering if she voted for this is bad? “I’m curious if she voted for this? Hhhhmmm?” Is that better?
I didn’t imply she did but I
wonderam curious if she did since you know… Florida.First it’s Florida
Do you believe everyone in Florida is a conservative Trump voter?
Like is it fair for everybody else to be dragged to who knows where?
Is it fair for her?
The fact that you so prominently brought up the notion that she may have voted for the actions brought upon her implies that you believe she did and this is leopards eating faces. Even if unintentional, that’s how it reads in the first place. Your response is doubling down on that and digs you a deeper hole. It sounds an awful lot like baseless victim blaming.
The number of nurses that are maga supporters is too damn high.
No I’m just saying that this is what hateful racist voted for and now we got this happening. Black folks and white folks thought they were safe, but here we are repeating the same tactics as other fascist and dictators. Keep them scared and in line and make an example for everybody to see.
Plus didn’t he just declare nurses as a none professions?
So was she a US citizen? They let her go. Is screaming that I’m a US citizen sufficient to avoid ice detention?
Police don’t have the right to pull people over, ask them to exit their vehicle, cuff them, or put them in the back of a vehicle (detain them) without a reason. Stopping someone without reason is harassment, the rest is assault/battery (depending on location)/kidnapping without providing the reason. If they give you a reason they can detain you, but if that reason does not follow the laws or is determined to be unreasonable by a judge the body making the arrest is supposed to be held responsible and penalized, possibly making them open to a lawsuit. Aka she should sue them, and taxpayers should be pissed we are having to pay for this
You must not live in the US or you are very sheltered if so. That is not at all how things go down here. Police and ice do this sort of thing all the time. With no consequence. Screaming doesn’t usually stop the harassment.
Yes, they do break the law all the time.
But they are not supposed to do that. You must not know your rights as a US Citizen.
Also they ran her ID and determined that wow by gum she is a us citizen and then let her go.
Rights are only as good as the justice system. The US has been ignoring the rights of citizens and committing human rights atrocities. Not every US citizen confronted by the police is as lucky as her. If you think that your boot licking is going to protect you it’s a foolish delusion.
Prison sentences for ICE agents who participate. There is no excuse.
Had to check the date on the article because this is not the first woman in scrubs on her way to work being yanked out of a car while telling ICE that she is a citizen.
We live in a dystopian hell and for some reason we keep acting like it’s all fine.
Only a truly sick society would allow this
A society steeped in misinformation and propaganda ultimately embraces fascism
Sick from poison, no doubt, but sick nonetheless. I hope there’s a cure that opens their eyes some day, but it won’t come from a TV screen.
The cure to misinformation and propaganda is critical thinking and the scientific method
We have the tools. We need the talent.
It really isn’t, fascists love using “science” and “rationality” to “prove” their ideologies. You can argue that they’re not doing real science, but their followers will believe it.
The cure to fascism is anarchism. That is the only effective way to prevent it.
Last time this happened, the country affected needed electro shock therapy to help them snap out of their delusions.
It’s been allowed under the laws for a long time, it’s just like everything else been a polite agreement not to do things like that. The constitution isn’t really suited for actors in bad faith in all parts of the government.
But it’s not, simply put if you are not committing a crime you are not required to ID.
Border control is allowed to ask you if you are a US citizen and they have expanded authority at established checkpoints. ICE can only ask you are a citizen. They can request ID, but you have the right to refuse.
Now if they can give probable cause that you are breaking a law then you can be detained and compelled to ID. The current legal standing is that race cannot be used to establish probable cause. Now of course the Supreme Court can over turn that anytime.
But all of this to say this has been the law for decades. ICE and local police departments struggle to understand that you do not have to ID when asked except under specific circumstances. Several departments have escalated to arrests that ultimately get thrown out. You can do a search online and find dozens of examples of cities having to pay a lot of money in settlements over false arrests.
But if you are driving a vehicle you are obliged to produce a driver’s license in every state. You can’t be pulled over just to have your license checked though, there has to be other cause for the stop.
Know your rights and fight for them before they are taken
The current legal standing is that race cannot be used to establish probable cause. Now of course the Supreme Court can over turn that anytime.
Which they did on September 8th.
Source? I’m not doubting you it’s just been a hard year to keep up with everything
Of course it’s a bit more nuanced but there you go.
Yes, they’re using reasonable suspicion for stops; Kavanaugh Stops due to what he wrote in his concurrence.
They’ve recently been judged to be using reasonable suspicion for arrests. But I think you might’ve implied as much.
It’s been sick for as long as I’ve been alive… Americans often just don’t know it.
She is visible white and 👱 blond, a medical worker, speaks with no accent.
She was eventually let go.
The first one is why the second one happened.
Side note, why is she bringing her scrubs outside the hospital? Don’t you return them after your shift in America, to be washed and such?
Do you mean why did ICE abduct her from work inside the hospital and drag her outside kicking & screaming without giving her a chance to change her clothes?
No.
But if that’s what happened, I have the answer to my question.
I’m also wondering why ICE abducted her period, not really specifically from where. 👍 But like I said, this was a side note.
Sign this paper saying you won’t talk about this and we’ll let you go.
According to the secret stuff law, if you talk about this we’ll arrest you again.
Pick one.
No people own and wash their own scrubs. Healthcare is for shareholder profits in America.
I’m wearing scrubs at work right now which I’m solely responsible for keeping & washing at home regularly.
You have a noble profession, IMO. 🩵
Cocaine nasal insufflation?
Did you mean to reply to me?
Yeah I was just making a dumb joke because we don’t know wise their profession is.
What are you assuming is my profession?
Something something hospital. Would you like to share?
I’m a massage therapist 😄
The preceding conversation taught me that scrub-wearing people who work in hospitals don’t wear their scrubs outside the facility & don’t have to wash them themselves, they leave their scrubs at work and there’s a separate crew responsible for scrubs laundry.
My life is not like that.
The worst filth my scrubs ever encounter are my own body sweat & occasional massage lotion mishaps.
Hey, massage therapy is good for well-being, too. 🩵 Maybe not as “noble” per se but it’s a good service for those that afford it. 😁✌️
No, US hospitals let nurses carry in bacteria and carry out bacteria into the community.
That’s the first thing that came to mind, like, wouldn’t you want to contain that mess? Wash instantly?
sometimes; my mum doesn’t do that often, preferring to wash them at home. in her words, when asked why, she said: “the detergent the hospital uses smells like used clorox wipes left out in the sun and then freezed for 1 day”. how she knows what that smells like is beyond me…
It’s written on the detergent bottle.
huh…you’re probably right…
Depends on where you work. They provide them at my hospital, but I still wear a privately owned pair when traveling between home and work.
Why do you wear your own scrubs to and from work?
Maybe because they are comfortable?
Maybe? Maybe because Satan’s cock is lodged in your anus?
Satan is a bottom, it’s actually Poseidons cock.
Can’t touch the bottom, in too deep.
Also curious.
These are likely not the drab, standard, facility-provided surgical or operating scrubs that even the I.T. staff has to change in to (or don over top) before crossing the red line into a clean zone, ‘red’ room or room with isolation precautions. These are the other personally-supplied garments staff wear to look professional in a medical setting. These are the same ones that are sometimes replaced with T-shirts and such on casual friday or department-coordinated Hallowe’en costumes on October 31.
Ah okay, that makes sense. Thank you.
Since when do we have to show our papers to the secret police?
If you are white, around 11 months. If you’re not white… Well, haha… Funny thing that… Umm, let me uhh, ya…
Surely you can’t be serious.
I am, and don’t call me Shirley.
Since you elected a Fascist dictator in 2024?
That’s the why, not the when. The when is as of Jan. 20th, 2025.
