What the hell is happening in Denmark at the moment??
First forcing the chat control topic upon Europe, now this?
I looked up their government, would have expected far right or so, but it is liberal social democrat…
So what happens here?
My bet is on a lot of bigtech
bribeslobbyingBig Tech has no interest in chat control, though.
They vehemently opposed it from the start.
How the Danish are acting just doesn’t make sense…It’s more complicated than that as control acts as a barrier to entry preventing competitive start ups entering the market and disrupting it so established players probably don’t care as they can bare the cost of compliance if they have to.
But it would be the other way around:
Established players would have to completely break and rewrite their existant transport layer in the whole world, just to be able to also cover the EU. (Or leave.)While potential new competitors would be able to design it to comply right from the start.
Something is rotten in Denmark.
It isn’t just Denmark. You see it here in Sweden, too. I’d be surprised if you didn’t see it across Europe.
I’m not really happy with any of the big political parties here in Sweden. The Greens hate nuclear power so much they’d prefer to open up fossil fuelled power plants than keep nuclear ones up and running. The Left party work really hard to get out of the EU. These are both parties I align the best with.
The Social Democrats are just these milquetoast soft-core conservatives, pretending to care about issues but turning their coats the second they get the chance. Unfortunately they always end up leading any of the left-winged government coalitions, typically with the help from the Centre who then gets to dictate all the policies, so it just ends up being a centre-right government that sells out our welfare to private interests.
It’s been like this for well over a decade at this point. Useless bunch, the lot of them.
Yeah Sweden has been doing great strides toward a full surveillance state, it is creepy as fuck.
All country leaders are looking at North Korea with loving eyes.
I remember how almost twenty years ago people were scoffing at the great firewall of China, how they’d restrict information and what not. Now all western countries are all “we must do this, for the children!”
Wow, this is quite an interesting read, because you can write almost the same thing - word for word - about Germany. It’s the same overall in Germany with a few differences like time (it has been going on for a lot longer here) and some of the left are a bit different.
Don’t be fooled by the party names. You have to look at the policies and consequences. Danes like to feel progressive, have left leaning stuff like free education and totalitarian measures against stuff they fear. The social democratic party remained in power after Germany moved troops into Denmark in 1940. It should tell you a lot.
There are fascists subverting every location on the political spectrum, none of them are immune. We’ve been trained to think in terms of “left” or “right” but these fuckers are coming at us sideways and corrupting our whole politcal spectrum at once. Don’t fall for it, pay attention to actions, not labels.
Denmark resistance lasted for the whole 6 hours.
Yeah, the time it took to drive from Germany
The soc.dem. are not a left party anymore. The current government consists of three different center-right parties. And they have some weird priorities sometimes.
I wonder how much it has to do with the success and subsequent loss of this operation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trojan_Shield
Because it seems like a lot of countries in the west are pushing this kind of thing rover the last several years and there’s a heavy push right now. https://www.privacyguides.org/videos/2025/12/16/taylor-lorenz-on-kosa-the-screen-act-and-repealing-section-230/
Denmark seems to want to fuck everything up lately, what’s their problem?
They can’t understand each other. Because of their language.
Kamelåso?
🎯😂
There’s a good chance this guy is just a moron.
The Supreme Court equivalent tried that in Brazil, but soon discovered all government digital infrastructure depends on it and backpedaled.
I’m hearing a lot about zero trust infrastructure lately and I wonder if this is the reason - the desire to eliminate VPNs. I honestly don’t know enough about IT to know if that even makes sense but it wouldn’t surprise me if these big corpos see the writing on the wall and are figuring out how to work sans VPN.
Denmark is trying to implement a lot of straight up fascist laws lately…
maybe lemmy at large should see the commonalities between all govts of the world making these moves instead of picking on the most obvious example and taunting citizens to “do something”. It’s as if there’s a coordinated effort to lock the lower classes down before some kind of technology creates civil unrest worldwide.
But then again, I’m just a stoopid murican who should have fixed this by now. Not aimed at you, just a relevant jumping off point for the crap that floods these threads.
I notice this mainly from western countries. Asians and South Americans seem to recognize they arent immune from corruption and bullshit policy. Yet for some reason their western counterparts like to point the finger at other countries (namely the US) and diminish their VERY real problems. “You Americans elected a facist, what are you doing?!” Yet far right parties have been surging for the past decade in Europe and Australia.
Facism was literally birthed in the west yet they never think it will come back
Asia has had empires, several times. I am sure the issue is lack of introspection and commitment to their convictions.
But wat do i kno, im a stupid Hokkaidan who can’t even swing my neighbor anarchistically.
Pls, technology?
Climate change and a war against china are the two triggers.
The third one is AI being used to dominate the world
Shit’s getting extra shitty everywhere. Its like a couple of countries went a little fash and every politician across the globe went FUCK YEAH, LET US IN ON THAT SHIT!!!
It’s already been taken off. The guy who requested this is a complete asshole that needs to be thrown out of office immidietly.
What a terrible terrible idea
The powers that be really don’t like the idea of unmonitored secure networks do they?
Denmark is attempting Schrodinger’s VPN ban. Seems like every week it’s defeated and re-emerges. What a waste of administrative time.
utskitet av kalk och vatten…
FINALLY! What took them so long!? I mean it’s a totalitarian grab, but seriously, if I was behind this. I would have immediately made VPN’s illegal. Then tracking what my citizens do online, would have been made much easier!
Until someone tells them how corporate IT works.
If the corporate VPNs keep logs and allow government access, they will be allowed. That’s how it works in some (authoritarian) countries.
I mean, logically, it would make sense to push VPNs into illegality or create a lot of gray area there if you’re also planning to introduce the Aussie social media ban. Logically. I personally think both are no good.
I’ve read some headlines about illegal streaming being targeted and shut down in Europe. If there was lobby money invested, I suspect it is the likes of sports rights holders who would like you to pay them extortionate amounts of money and not sail the high seas for the price of a VPN.
Modstå, kære dansker.
If omnipotent deity of your choice forbid this ever lands at the ECJ I’m not sure they will side with the privacy/freedom of speech side of the argument.
What is happening with Europe and the countries within it?
Give it time, there are bills proposed in some states to do the same.
Surveillance capitalism
The whole country wants to ban VPNs?
Or just a small subset of politicians in the pocket of big corporations who see their profits melt because of their own greed?
What’s the difference?
Wut? Are you actually suggesting that the entire population of Denmark (aka, the whole country) is just
politicians in the pocket of big corporations
???
Well, I’m an American, and we’re collectively blamed for the fuckshit our government does, so absolutely yes.
But also, if the Danish government passes a law that goes into effect, how does it matter how many or how few Danes wanted it?
Well, you collectively elected Trump for president.
Twice.
Uh huh, and how’d the Danish government arrive in power?
Same way. But there’s a difference between proposing a VPN ban and nuking a hurricane.
Yeah, Denmark might actually try their stupid idea.
It’s really telling how over the last few months, the overlap of “Oh, WTF is this?” between Privacy and Technology communities have aligned more and more.
