• Saapas@piefed.zip
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      While at work you are representing the company and have to act accordingly. Aside from any personal feelings about what he said, what he did is really unprofessional and could cause reputational damage to the company.

      I agree with what he said but yelling that at work during a visit is just not a great idea.

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        This is not like representing the company at a picnic or charity event. This is PR for the aspiring fascist dictator, who is leaving us with a legacy of a soon to be supreme leaders fixing elections and ruling in a reign of terror scapegoating others for problems. Also one that fucked children with epstein and let himself get caught on tape doing it so now a foreign intelligence agency (israel,) has proof that would ruin him making him at their disposal. Also a lifelong blackmailer himself, such an enigma, a child fucking blackmailing enigma.

        Fuck the company and their stroking off the guy betraying the country that allowed ford to become great. They are fools to trust the party, and will be destroyed by them, because they and their ilk were trying to prevent a little reform to restore the glory of the republic to the post war years.

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          I’m all for the sentiment, I just tried to explain what sort of stance the company is working from and why being suspended or fired wouldn’t be surprising.

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            Oh yeah the president and his people are think skinned to say the least. They would have the guy executed if they could. The company would be looking at transparent penalties if they didn’t fire the guy.

            They should reinstate him with his union though, idk how it works in auto, but other unions will get guys reinstated with back pay for being fired contrary to the contract.

            I would not be surprised if they didn’t try and investigate the guy with federal prosecutors, but we are not quite there yet where those prosecutions would make it to trial.

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        That dude was representing his union not Ford Motor Company.

        Just because some company says “you are representing FORD” … the CEO of Ford doesn’t drive a Ford … is he get a pass because he is rich ?

        You don’t represent a company. You represent yourself.

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          An employee on the work clock? Of course he is representing the company. If I see someone and they have a uniform then they are representing their company. They might be representing themself as well (personal reputation) but they are also representing their employer and their actions reflect on the company.

          I think Trump is a piece of shit but you are in the wrong in this regard.

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            I agree with you, though I think in this case being unprofessional is warranted and worth it, but I totally understand suspension.

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      I mean, insulting someone on a tour of your plant is pretty unprofessional

      I’d even say that it was a bad thing to do, if the insulted tour-goer wasn’t the lowest scum of the earth XD

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      Ford is complying with dear leader while dear leader is actively fucking Ford by cutting trade with Canada.

      I used to work in automotive manufacturing. The amount of parts to build cars cannot come from just America. It’s impossible.

      Trump is beating the shit out of Ford and they’re just standing there asking for more.

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        Silver lining though, cars will get more expensive, which might spur more public transit. Heh… at the very least it will make walkable places a little more desirable.

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          Oh cars will get more expensive, but you think America will lean towards public transit? Auto manufacturers will just bitch and moan about how they can’t sell their $145,000 entry level sedan, and the government will just bail them out with your tax money.

          What, you don’t want to pay $1500 a month for a Ford Focus?

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            Ford would bitch and moan so American safety regulations would be cut back to help lower costs of cars

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            Ford doesn’t sell the Focus anymore because the US hates reasonably sized vehicles.

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            If people can’t afford cars, they’ll just create subsidies using middle class tax money.

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            I’m hoping this means we’ll actually get a high speed rail line from Toronto to Quebec City sometime this century instead of just having another shelved study.

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        That is total bullshit they could build all the parts in the country, preposterous to claim otherwise. The president is a piece of shit, and will ruin ford, but the parts could easily all be made in america, and were all made in america, probably in living memory.

        Now everyone is defending neo liberalism because the president co opted anger at so called free trade.

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            First of all, 1950 is in living memory as I said. Second of all, I dispute that any significant percent was built outside the country before nafta, and I flat out reject that we couldn’t build them all here.

            Just because the president co-opted union issues to win the election, planning on doing the exact opposite of what he promised, does not mean you should embrace the opposite and the neo liberal fair trade arguments whereby our labor and environmental standards are undercut by sending jobs to countries without those protections in a race to the bottom. Eliminating those jobs that led to selling their own products in a cycle of economic decline. Canada is not a problem in that regard, although they have an advantage it’s not unfair, because national health insurance.

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          So where is America getting a lot of their foreign special metals? Last I checked a lot of particular components needed to build modern vehicles literally don’t exist in America.

          If you wanted to build just a car from 1968, absolutely you could. But the technology in cars now-a-days comes from materials that literally do not exist in the continental USA. You need to import them. And Canada has a lot of it. So even the suggestion that you don’t need Canada is not only ignorant as hell but completely stupid.

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            But the technology in cars now-a-days comes from materials that literally do not exist in the continental USA.

            It would not be hard to rebuild that technology with the wealth or nation has. It is a choice, and was intentionally made that way, and pretending otherwise is to take at face value the narrative the rich weave

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            Who said anything about the Raw materials? That is not how made in labels work and you know it. You are throwing around a little gratuitous insults despite you being the one that was despite you being the one that was wrong.

            But we could do all the raw materials in the United States as a matter of fact. Ford had a completely vertical operation and produced almost everything in the United States. But I do not know why I’m talking to somebody that called me stupid for challenging his falsehood.

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              The fact you even think that I called you stupid, rather than the President of the United States stupid, says all I need to know about you. Have a great day.

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            The US actually has about every metal or mineral you could want somewhere, as rissia and china both do, canada to a lesser extent. The us used to lead in rare earth stuff too. Not sure about cobalt and coltan but it likely does exist in the us.

            Not that we should process all of them here neccessarily. Just that we have deposits of basically everything.

            I do not think we should have tarrifs on canada or europe. But our cars could be made in the us, and used to be before nafta. Made in measures parts though, raw materials are not included in those.

            Canada is not the problem in free trade. Their only advantage is not unfair, they do not gouge on healthcare forcing companies to pay more for less to pay an army of parasites offering no value to health care.

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        Parts yes. Cars no.

        It is in Ford’s best interest to keep other forgien cars out of the US. If Americans were really free to shop forgien cars the US car companies would all go under.

        Trump will keep out “bad forgien cars”

        Tairiffs are just a cost they pass down to consumers when there are no other options for the consumer other than domestic cars built with tariffed parts.

        They know what they are doing.

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    If I get fired for expressing my state of mind being less effective because my friends and clients are not white US natural born citizens, so be it. Yeah, it’s fucking stressful. But I will not be silent when people are being sent to concentration camps, citizens are being murdered, and a PMC is profiting off each kidnapping.

    I won’t debate it. I won’t call a coworker a Nazi fuck to their face. But I will not be silenced when this horrifying shit is going on.

    I have privilege as a WASP. Yes it’s a risk. Yes I have family.

    But I will not be silent.

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    “He has no regrets whatsoever”, is this a quote from the employee, or from Trump about being a pedophilic predator?

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    If I got to piss off that orange rapist you could suspend me too. Heck, I’m a straight man, but you could sodomize me with a pineapple in exchange for getting a solid punch in his face.

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        Yeah, I think the thought went on sort of a little walk there. It started out by just getting good ol’ regular sodomized, but then the thought stumbled over “I guess getting a dick in my output port isn’t bad enough, to convey the intensity of my desire for punching the dude in his stupid lying face” thus we end up with me getting a pineapple up my rectum.

        But then again we shouldn’t rule anything out, rule 34 and all

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      Do you have right to protect during work, while at work and does that right safeguard you from any repercussions (suspension, firing) from your employer? Certain labour action stuff is protected in Finland but no idea about the US.

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            That also depends. Either my company it’s in an agreement and company policy that you sign to follow. Like dress causal, don’t speak bad about the company on social media. Recent news about this guy, he’s in a union. He has more protection than your average worker.

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    Where is his go fund me? If those Republicans can help out pedophiles and racist, we can help out a patriot!

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    The story of the emperor with no clothes has a very optimistic view of society because in real life the boy who shouted out that he had no clothes would be beaten with a stick.

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        He wasnt just a fuckin open Nazi, Hitler practically wrote him a goddamn Love Letter in Mein Kampf.

        Ford also financially supported the Nazi Party in its early days

        Also received the highest medal and honors that could be bestowed to a foreigner, from Nazi Germany.

        Then, in 1942, when such things started reflecting badly on him, he suddenly went “oh no no no, Thats not me, I hope this whole business ends with world peace and love amongst everyone”

        He is a national fuckin disgrace.

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          It’s slightly more complicated than that. Still doesn’t make him look good but it’s more nuanced.

          He was a Nazi and flagrant racist before Nazi was the unequivocally negative descriptor we think of it as today.
          He thought Nazism was right for America the same way he thought square dancing would keep away the blacks and that the Jews would be undercut if he did car financing without banks.

          He was awful and a patriot, so when Germany went to war with America he was unequivocally in favor of destroying the Germans.
          He still agreed with them on everything else.

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      Ah he’s only suspended and a union member. I heard that the suspension will likely be short (3 days was the figure someone in the same union said on the other site). I’m sure we’ll hear all about it if he is actually fired.

      Mad props to him for seeing his opportunity, realising it was once in a lifetime and grabbing it with both hands.

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    TJ Sabula shout “Pedophile protector!” at Trump, before the president responded with a middle finger and a “f*ck you”

    Pre-Trump, a President would have to resign with such a behaviour…

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      Their idea of Freedom of Speech means calling people racial slurs without facing any consequences and then cancelling someone for saying the inconvenient truth.