Contents of said letter from daily beast: https://archive.is/YFBK3#selection-773.0-779.748

“Dear Jonas,” the president wrote to Norway’s prime minister, Jonas Gahr Støre. “Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a ‘right of ownership’ anyway? There are no written documents, it’s only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT.”

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    Lol, that letter reads like something a third grader wrote.

    “Dear Santa, since you decided not to give me a Nintendo for Christmas, I no longer feel like I need to clean my room and not say bad words. I have done more chores than any other person…”

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    I mean, sure, that’s the worst thing we’ve seen all week so far. But look - Harris didn’t do enough for the proletariat!

    So. Y’know. This is the Democrats’ fault.

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      You gotta put /s or face confusion.

      Fun fact, detecting written sarcasm is one of the more, let’s say, rare elements of verbal fluency.

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      Lemmy.ml genuinely believes this. They will still insist that not supporting Harris was somehow the right decision.

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        probably too much of a sweeping generalization there. I would say (with zero evidence other than my interactions) that after the great reddit migration, those who might say this are likely in the minority.

        I cannot defend this other than “the feels”, but hey… I think lemmy.ml got moderated a little with the influx of cooler heads.

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          Maybe I shouldn’t generalise, but when I have seen Lemmy.ml posters, they often take quite extreme positions. E.g. insisting it would have been wrong to vote for Harris (even as a lesser-of-two-evils), insisting that Chinese imperialism and Russian imperialism are justified (only western imperialism is evil, apparently). Stuff like that.

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            there are long standing radicals on the .ml instances, to be sure. I would place the bulk of the current lemmy.ml userbase between Democratic Socialist and Social Democrat (with a strong, vocal splash of authoritarians mixed in there somewhere).

            lemmygrad.ml and hexbear are often otherworldly - interesting to watch, ocassionally interesting to engage, but always entertaining if you can pick out the salient arguments from the confusion. love federated systems :-)

    • I’m not sure it will be unfuckable to be fair. The amount of damage (reputational and whatnot) is so big that the country is right now a banana republic with a toddler autocrat. The only reason people still cater to him is his army. But even for that to keep working, he needs money. And there’s a limit to how much other countries can tolerate.

      He’s dumb enough to not realize the US is drowning in ever-growing debt that other countries could simply cash in and send the whole manbaby imperialist fantasies to hell in a month or less.

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        He has pretty much torched all of the USA’s soft power and standing as a trade partner.

        GWB had already done some damage to both, which Obama tried to repair (more so on the trade front). Then Trump I happened and made it very clear that the USA were no longer a reliable partner and probably not even politically stable in the medium term. Biden tried to salvage something but then Trump II happened and conclusively buried what little goodwill the States had left.

        I don’t think the pax americana is going to survive the decade and neither is the petrodollar. It remains to be seen whether the States will become a local hegemonial power, a failed empire with lasting ambitions á la Russia, or will even fade from relevancy entirely. I don’t expect them to remain a superpower.

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      Even if the next president tries to repair the damage there’s a decent chance the one after that will be a fascist piece of shit again. I wouldn’t trust America to pick up the pieces anytime soon. Maybe in 20-25 years when most of the boomers are dead can you begin to build something permanently better…

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    dude is so pissed about not getting a peace prize hes going to war with the planet… as if to demonstrate why he would never, ever be deserving of such a prize.

    its hard to really wrap your brain around how stupid a human you would have to be to write that letter… and who is worse the clearly mentally deficient president, or the circle of sycophants enabling this bullshit?

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      I could see someone with mushbrain blurting something like that out in the moment. But imagine being such a dumbass as to set that down, in writing?

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      It’s always been the sycophants who are worse. Slowly, deliberately, and methodically, America has been driven half-crazy stupid by extreme right wing xenophobia and ignorance. Reactionary ideology has fully engulfed the rotten brains of America’s least introspective imbeciles. Trump is the mirror of their desperate desire to be heard, to be catered to, to be rescued from every perceived threat, real or imagined.

      We can shatter the mirror, but the monsters live among us.

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      I mean, it fits entirely however for anyone paying attention.

      He hated New York high society because New York high society snubbed him and wouldn’t let him in their club, because he’s a classless ass.

      He hated the US neoliberal democratic order because they snubbed him and wouldn’t let him in their club, because he doesn’t actually know what the fuck is he doing and doesn’t care about democracy.

      He vows to destroy any group or idea that would reject him. He views it as a personal affront and never feels like maybe he should be a better person.

      No, his solution is to destroy everything in his path, which is why he is also tearing apart NATO because he was snubbed by other democratic world leaders. He is such a giant fucking pussy baby bitch who can’t handle rejection at all.

      He doesn’t even care about ruling over the ashes, he just wants to see it all fall and neither understands nor cares to understand how any of it might impact him in the long run because he’ll be dead before consequences come knocking.

      The fact that a third of the country are exactly the same really exposes how deep the USA’s problems with mental health go.

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        He hated the US neoliberal democratic order because they snubbed him and wouldn’t let him in their club,

        Huh?

        He was fully in the neoliberal club…

        He got the fucking Clinton’s to come to one of his weddings, neoliberals loved him because they were one of the few people he actually wrote checks too. Because he always got a return on it.

        The shit about him not liking the Clinton’s is just WWF play acting.

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            Yeah, he’s always been mocked and derided since at least the 80s. The local press knew who and what he was for sure. Magazines like Spy mocked him all the time.

            I’m sure with his fragile snowflake ego that he has never felt fully accepted by the typical elites, especially old money. Maybe creepy pedo weirdo elites like Epstein and the freak(s) he ran his beauty pageants with at least tolerated having him around.

            The guy has always come off as thirsty AF for approval by things like Hollywood and so on, too…

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          the WWF connection is real. Trump has been a close ally of the McMahon family for decades and he was breifly involved with the show directley a couple of times . The way he runs conferences, talks to people, etc, is very similar to how things get scripted on the WWF/WWE

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          With the bad takes again? Neoliberals will take money from anyone. Thousands of average voters donated to neoliberal causes over decades. Were they ever in the club?

          One of the few good things the neoliberals ever did, was to say no to Trump when he demanded power. The fact that Obama ridiculed him, whatever you think of Obama. Should tell you how IN he was. It’s not like everyone by that point didn’t know he was a petulant manchild. They snubbed him. Figuratively and literally. Its why he ran in 2015 against them. Petty bitterness, like all his lawsuits. He just never thought he would win.

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        The fact that a third of the country are exactly the same really exposes how deep the USA’s problems with mental health go.

        This last part is the scary part. Normal humans see Grandpa Klan Robe here raging out and calling for “retribution” and think - someone should take the keys away.

        Dumbass conservative apes with broken brains look at that and cheer him on and want to vote for him even harder. 1984 was all too prescient, but that’s because he was looking at quite recent events - “We’ve always been at war with [Greenland|Venezuela|Canada|Mexico]!”

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        I genuinely think there’s a chance that everyone is completely missing his motivation here.

        Trump turns 80 on 14th June 2026. He wants someone, be it Denmark or the US Army, to give him a country for his birthday.

        What better gift is there?

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      I can’t believe I’m watching our own world’s version of the mad king threatening a lord of a northern country, to bend the knee.

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        Not buying US debt is a long term strategy, not a short term punishment.

        Trump only has to keep up the interest payments by selling bonds domestically.

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        This idiot still has a 40% approval rating here. Europe you gotta apply more economic pain to us, I already see headlines about how leaders are leaning toward negotiating. Fuck that, bazooka us in the face already!

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        I guarantee you the majority of people who need to be “listening” are very specifically not listening. They are pretending everything’s fine, and they’ll keep doing that until it’s time to vote republican again in November. They will likely not see this story.

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        I think most people don’t want to throw their life away killing a guy that already has one foot in the grave.

        We could probably just send him a dozen hamburgers and he’d finally have that heart attack we’ve been waiting for.

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          I don’t think I’ve ever rooted for high cholesterol before, but these are strange times.

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          The immorality of killing someone besides, and making him a martyr to his supporters that would make them more dangerous, there is a legal process to remove a president.

          We think that this administration is driven by Trump, but once removed, the people who are behind much of his policies are still there. Venezuela is comparable at the moment. It is still controlled by Maduro’s administration.

          The world needs to treat America as a pariah despite the economic pain. It needs to find a way to thrive without it.

          America needs a revolution that demands reform in all three branches as well as the voting process. Our leaders and judges, given their privilege of power, should be subject ti term limits. First past the post should be replaced by a comprehensive voting process such as ranked choice.

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            People keep using the word martyr, but I’m not sure he can become that. There’s no ideology bringing these people together, the disruption that he’s causing is the unifying force.

            If he’s gone, there’s no clear contender to continue that disruption, so there would be tons of infighting. I don’t think there’s a path to dominance from that kind of chaos. Trump only managed to get elected with the support of broken systems, which are being dismantled.

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              There’s no ideology bringing these people together

              Agreed, but there’s something that’s like an ideology. They don’t know what it is, but it comes in a red ball cap and waves a lot of flags. Usually from a giant truck. Whatever those things are are the “ideology”. And his murder would definitely calcify a lot of that.

              I mean, it’s a cult. Plain and simple. What happens when a cult leader is killed? Besides the inevitable factional war?

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                Disruption is the thing that’s like ideology in this instance. There’s no path for a cult member to disrupt things enough to become the new cult leader. There’s the chain of succession or whatever it’s called, and that relies on the legitimacy of the system to be used. If that legitimacy is disrupted, the only people that can take the lead position will be the people controlling the military, which will be nobody in governance because the commander in chief will be dead.

                This is one reason I guess the ICE budget is getting juice, so that when that change in leadership comes there is some force behind the change.

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          That fat cunt could eat 12 of those in twenty minutes without sweating much more than the pig usually does. Fucks sake, put him out of everyone’s misery.

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          It’s really not that hard to create a highly contagious flu with a 50% IFR. Just do the initial release around people likely to interact with the inner circle and you’d wipe most of the old ones out. Plus once it got out you’d be eliminating anti-science people at a 5 or 10:1 ratio, improving the future prospects for the planet as a whole. Some really angry molecular biologist who got fired by RFK Jr. could do it for $50k in a limited space.

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          I think most people don’t want to throw their life away killing a guy that already has one foot in the grave.

          I 100% think you are right about this. I don’t think most people want look inwards and acknowledge this fear.

          It’s not just one guy though… I bet the German people thought the same in the 1930’s, and look how many people died because of their reluctance to being more active against the nazis.

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            *throne*

            And yes, but he’s got the charisma of a week old sandwich left on top of the trash bin.

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              Is there a word for typoing a different homophone even though you knew damn well which one was correct?


              Anyway, my point was, waiting for him to die of old age is not a solution. Positive action must be taken to get rid of him.

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                Is there a word for typoing a different homophone even though you knew damn well which one was correct?

                We need to go rustle up a German. I’m sure they have one.

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    “I don’t see how you can be a serious person and not find this extremely worrisome,” wrote Sen. Brian SchatSchatz (D-HI) in a social media post on X Monday. “He is not stable at all and his reality is warped. He was always a bit like this of course but now he’s [79].”

    As the oldest sitting U.S. president in history, Trump has increasingly shown signs of aging, both physically and mentally, multiple outlets have reported. And, with his recent letter – the authenticity of which was questioned by critics due to its “jaw-dropping” content and “unhinged crazy talk” – speculation as to the president’s mental well-being only grew louder.

    This is fucked up journalism inside the fucked up story that is super fucked up. Look at this - in the first quote they replace whatever word he used with [79]. Why? Presumably the original word was “old” and they wanted to reinforce the 79 as that has become shorthand for dementia, since the press has decided they can’t say anything due to their billionaire owners telling them they can’t say anything about it.

    But what if it was “super fucked up”? That’d have been a way better quote.

    And the constant referring to Xitter is awful, and the “shows signs of [decline] multiple outlets have reported” as if they’re not allowed to say it, as if it’s not as obvious as the nose on one’s face. They won’t take the burden of saying it, they’ll refer you to other corporate propaganda rags that have meekly implied it for them.

    SAD!

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      Journalists are scared pansies. What a joke of a field. If you’re a journalist, you should be ashamed and ridiculed. In a time where so many people wish they could do more to stop fascism or stand against it, the people that have power would rather suck boots and protect pedos.

      Journalists have power. They refuse to use that cuz they need to make money. Money before truth.

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      This is fucked up journalism inside the fucked up story that is super fucked up. Look at this - in the first quote they replace whatever word he used with [79]. Why? Presumably the original word was “old” and they wanted to reinforce the 79 as that has become shorthand for dementia, since the press has decided they can’t say anything due to their billionaire owners telling them they can’t say anything about it.

      Am I missing something? If you actually click the link to the tweet you’d have seen that Brian Schatz said, and I quote directly:

      “I don’t see how you can be a serious person and not find this extremely worrisome. He is not stable at all and his reality is warped. He was always a bit like this of course but now he’s 80.”.

      There is no replacement of the word “old” or anything like that, at the very least it was a minor correction from 80 y/o to Trumps actual age of 79 y/o.

      And even if that is the case, replacing “old” with “79” or “80” would have been way more damning in my opinion. Maybe I’m too young for this shit but “old” for me is 55+. Not fucking retirement age, AKA 67+ where I live, let alone 79 or 80 years old.

      I truly don’t know what to make of this comment. Yeah trump is a shithead and I truly am sad that he still isn’t 6 feet deep, but what are you trying to achieve with this comment? It just seems like ragebait aimed at journalist or something, I really, truly, don’t know.

      EDIT: made a couple of small edits to make my points more clear. Don’t know if lemmy lets you see the first version of a post but if it does feel free to compare. As of this edit I still stand by my point

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        Fair enough, but it requires me clicking a link to a tweet, which isn’t happening.

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    I feel like crazy, because signs of his dementia have been clearly obvious for several years now. Why is anyone surprised by this nonsensical letter?

    He is not “running” the country, his cronies are. They let him pop off with stupid shit like this because his handlers have learned that if they don’t let him do shit like this while their machinations are carried out in the background, he turns on them and they get kicked out of his cult. So they loot and pillage the country while their cult leader goes off on his tangents and pursues his weird/ridiculous/frightening vendettas. M

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      I feel like crazy

      Well, yeah. Which is one of the reasons people railing against Harris were so fucking stupid. Of course it’s insane chaos. We already knew this. We’ve already done this. How anyone could sit on their high horse and think “well I guess we have to go through insane chaos to teach the Democrats a lesson” is beyond me. Unless they’re not actual US voters. Which, imo, many of them are not.

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      No, he is running the US, and he does whatever his cronies tell him, mixed with this dimentia riddled shit.

      Writing to Norway the he wants Greenland is probably the point where he should be medically removed from office.

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        I meant running in the sense he’s actually governing, which he isn’t. He’s a dictator that’s terrorizing his own citizens while everything in the country is crumbling. What little governing IS actually occurring, is being done by his cronies that are implementing their own agendas, e.g. that idiotic tax break bill they created last year.

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    Apparently the USA militarily could no longer stop China taking Taiwan.

    With Trump acting like this, China initiating that action becomes more likely.

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      I’m pretty sure that whether it can is irrelevant. Unter Trump it won’t because China playing strongman appeals to him more than petty things like allies and an independent semiconductor market. Also, he can very clearly be bought and Xi can just send him a couple yachts with tacky decor or something.

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    I didn’t want peace for people, I only wanted the peace prize… If I can’t get the peace prize, I will send people to war…

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    everyone is shocked I tell you SHOCKED! now what the fuck is going to be done about it? Is he just going to be allowed to steamroll and conquer neighboring countries forever while the news keeps saying “surely this is the last straw”? Why don’t other countries cut off the Untied States financially until it behaves?

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      Because they can’t. It well hurt they’re GDP and citizens. No more phones no more laptops. The world is to reliant on the US and it’s companies.

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        No more phones no more laptops.

        The only thing it would truly affect is Apple; Samsung could offer de-googled phones in the blink of an eye.

        Hell, we don’t even make the cellphones or laptops here. China has its own stuff. If a single one of the hardware manufacturers dedicated a couple of months to an open source driver project, we could have Linux phones by EOY.

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          A lot of the technology inside a phone is still dependent on US patents and/or manufactured parts. It may seem like one country makes this or that, but that’s not actually how it works. If you look online you’ll see the lowest number is around 40 countries for an iPhone.

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            US patents and/or manufactured parts

            US what now? We’re not making any parts. We are, at best, assembling some things; Tealistically, we’re just fucking boxing shit these days. And patents? Once you’re in an actual trade war, who in the hell cares about a country’s IP claims?

            You can get a black market iphone in China, not once piece has to pass through the US, the tricky part is getting the apple store and apps if they decide to blacklist your serial number.

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            I feel like if the US can ignore the sovereignty of Denmark, the founding principles of NATO and pretty much the entirety of international law, the rest of us shouldn’t really stress too much about US patents TBH.