I’m pretty sure that’s a reference to the midterm elections in November 2026
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Sorry for the dumb (not Form the US) question: Which information is in a voter database?
Names and party affiliation. Possibly addresses as well. At least tells them whom to purge, at worst tells them where to find them.
Party affiliation can also be tracked by Palantir and co. If that fails, they just purge the black-sounding family names.
This is very alien to me, also not from the US. What is party affiliation? And voter registration?
Like in my country, there is a “vote-registry”, which is basically only relevant if you move out or back into the country. It is a “should the government include you to be able to cast a vote” , which is associated with your ordinary government registrerd address. All party “affiliations”, or they are memberships here, are handled by the parties themselves.
Is party affiliation like memberships but centrally registred with the government? Is voting registration not something which is default, but something you have to… Apply for? How is the party affiliation and voter registration linked? You have to include who you intend to vote for?
Some (but not all) states record party preference (i.e., Democrat or Republican), if provided. You do have to specifically register to vote.
Why do they do that? What is the original reason for it? To people from other democratic countries this sounds very strange.
A lot of States have what’s called “Closed Primaries” where they only let people that have registered with their party vote for who will be on the ballot. Ostensibly they do this so say Republicans can’t mass join a Democrat primary and skew results by voting for a candidate with no motion that the Republican will easily beat in the general and vice versa.
In reality it’s mostly a tool for party outreach and fundraising. If the Democrats know that 100 Democrats live in this neighborhood and they’re like medium propensity voters they might send some volunteers to knock doors in that neighborhood, for example.
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Name, address, party affiliation, prolly some more identifying information.
Wtf? Why is this stuff even collected? Aren’t elections supposed to be anonymous?
Most countries have some form of electoral roll to prevent fraud. The ‘party affiliation’ section is a US disease though.
For real, especially in States with closed primaries. In my state you can only vote in a party primary if you’re registered to vote as a member of that party. If I could participate in Democratic primaries without being a Democrat I’d still be unaffiliated.
But wouldn’t it be better to go vote in the Republican primaries? Then you can help influence whether they put in the merely horrible person instead of the actively evil one.
In fact this seems such an obvious loophole that I’m not sure why this isn’t done already? Especially since primaries have such low turnout that it would be much easier to influence.
It depends on where you are. Like where I am Republicans don’t win statewide. It might be somewhat effective if you’re organized with others in a closer state? But as an individual, no you’re going to get more mileage out of voting in the primaries of the party closer to you in political views.
Like if I’m closer to Bernie, then what good does it do for me to sabotage the Republican primary if me not voting in the Democratic primary leads to Hillary beating Bernie in the Democratic primary and now it’s a Republican I didn’t want vs a Democrat I didn’t want?
No, a lot of information about elections is actually public. Who you vote for is very secret, but your name, address, and the fact that you did or did not vote is often either public or available on request. This is important because if it was just a totally secret thing, there’s not much stopping a corrupt election official from dumping as many fake ballots into the total as they like or filling out ballots for people that didn’t show up.
not much stopping a corrupt election official
In my country, the election officials are thoroughly watched and from various parties to ensure they keep each other in check. It would be near impossible to sneak in extra ballots (at least, a significant amount of ballots that would actually make a difference). There is a voter register but everyone is on that list, you don’t need to register to vote.
FWIW, voters in Minnesota do not register a party affiliation. (It varies by state.)
They do make it giving easy to register, so expect diaper squadron to find a way to fuck that up…
thanks. Party affilation sounds scary in this scenario.
Happily, Minnesota does not collect this information. In primaries, you get a ballot with all the parties on it, you pick one to fill out and leave the rest blank.
I hope there’s a world where thos matters and they all eat shit and face consequences.
Like, this should be cut and dry.
Oh, and also Trump’s latest comments on tariffs on Canada follow the same pattern, first it was"fentenyl", now they’ve dropped the veneer forgetting that national security arguments were the only argument they had to justify things.
To me that says they’re either wildly overconfident or know they’ve got the supreme court by the balls.
I think fascists see violating boundaries, hypocrisy, and telling lies as signs of power - ie, things to aspire to in their twisted minds. That’s dangerous, and not how non-fascists think.
Mainstream traditional and social media have devolved to simply publishing verbatim what the fascists say without offering any kind of context or evaluation of, say, the truthfulness of the statement-now-headline.
I agree with you all around otherwise. I just don’t think this behaviour rests on overconfidence or an appraisal of riskiness via the SC. I think it’s psychologically must deeper, and recognizing this will help us deal with them better
I think fascists see violating boundaries, hypocrisy, and telling lies as signs of power - ie, things to aspire to in their twisted minds. That’s dangerous, and not how non-fascists think.
But it nicely fits an adjacent conservative mindset: “We need laws to keep bad guys (others) from doing bad things, not to prevent good guys (us) from doing good things.”
It’s not that they view them as arbitrary signs of power to aspire to, it’s that those things really do work well to manipulate others into doing what you want. Detaching a victim from reality - making them instead blindly believe what you say - turns them into a very useful tool. Usually people have a conscious and don’t want to manipulate others to get ahead, but there will always be some who simply don’t care, and they end up being the ones to amass more power and influence than their peers as a result.
I think it’s even more than just they see them as signs of power. I think continuously ramping things up is power. If the last thing wasn’t enough to stop them, what’s one more step? This continues ad infinitum. They keep ratcheting up, and there’s nothing to bring it back down.
These guys seriously think they are every winning an election Minnesota again? I guess they are betting that they can finish off democracy in it’s entirety in the next three years
Hand them the republican ones.
That would still be too much data from which they could extrapolate
Make a copy of the database, randomize and send useless data?
They are running this country like a pawn shop.
Of course it’s not about immigration. If it were about immigration, they’d be in Texas and Florida. You know, states with large numbers of immigrants. Minnesota has a tiny fraction of the number of immigrants as those states, and it’s physically large. Very inefficient use of person-power for actually doing their stated job.
Why are they even asking; can’t “big balls” just lift them?
I wonder what the “States Rights” crowd has to say about this…
Same thing as the 2A crowd: crickets
The 2A amendment folks only care about gun rights because they’re afraid of black people. That’s literally their whole motivation.
They can’t answer they’re out in Minnesota assassinating citizens
We have to stop engaging them like ANY of their arguments were ever genuine. These hypocritical fuckers will say anything, then say the exact opposite, because they never meant any of it in the first place.
The psychopaths say whatever they think will get their opposition to behave in the way they want. That’s it.
Minnesota ain’t no fucking swing state. We’ve voted Blue in the presidential election longer than any other state.
Don’t worry they have 10 more months to fix that
You’re right, but Trump thinks he won it in all 3 of his elections. He thinks it would have “swung” toward him if it weren’t for the Democrats letting “illegals” vote. I can almost guarantee you that’s part of why he is targeting Minnesota.
No way this administration will EVER withdraw ICE from an area of active occupation. Nat’l guard is literally the last resort here before the cartridge box; and the dem governors won’t actually pull the ‘trigger’ on it because they’re not ACTUALLY opposed to fascism, just paid to pretend they are
(My admittedly very cynical take)
National Guard is not the last resort. As it can be federalized, it’s not even the best option here.
Several states have State Guards that answer only to the governor. The State Guard is usually little more than a legal framework rather than an operational militia, but that framework could be filled in pretty damn quick: Disband the National Guard units and offer the guardsmen transfers to the State Guard.
No way this administration will EVER withdraw ICE from an area of active occupation.
They already have from multiple cities. They’ve been focusing on one city at at time, trying to drive up the pressure and chaos by focusing their presence in one area.
Watch Walz’s press conference on the 24th.
He is having a genuine human reaction to this. He looks and talked like he understands the stakes.
Unlike Schumer or Jeffries or Harris or the Obamas.
Weird ass thing to do.
Minnesota has paper backed electronic voting.
There’s not a lot he can manipulate with that.
Intimidating certain voters not to leave their homes and go vote, obstructing voters, detaining them - lots of non-electronic ways to manipulate an election
My bet is data mining for state subsidy reasons. Or just a “tough guy” approach to intimidation.
Still tells you where the concentration is highest for ‘unfavorables’. After that a dragnet makes short work.
He knows which neighborhoods to bomb.
He knows which houses to send the secret police to to beat, threaten, or murder.
He knows which people to force private companies to bankrupt to put them into poverty.
There is a ton that he can do with that information.
Oddly, the right wing wont complain about this.
MAGA cannot be considered human beings. They won’t leave the state if you bow to their corruption and give them voter rolls. They will just ask for something else.
Dehumanizing dangerous idiots and even down right evil selfish people is still wrong even if they are a dehumanizing cult faction. And it still ends in a net negative for humanity. That does not mean there is not justified consequences for people that cause harm.
Many of the MAGA people I’ve talked to irl are really really dumb and gullible in general, if it’s not MAGA it would be something else. People in power are using that as an attack vector to gain power.
Fascism has always been a movement of near slighted weaponized stupidity
Wtf is there a voter database?
voter registry
i.e name, address, party affiliations, etc…, and whether or not they voted (but the vote itself are secret)
You need to be on the list to vote in elections. You get assigned the closest polling place, then you show up, they ask for you name, and they go through the book thing with a list of voters assgined to that polling place, they find your name then check it of before getting someone to set up the voting machine thing for you. For Pennsylvania, they ask for ID for the first time, they mail you a voter registry card which can be used for as that ID. Next time you don’t need an ID, the just ask you for a signature on the voter roll.
If you name isn’t on the voter roll at the polling station for some reason (like a mistake they made), you can ask for a privisional ballot then they sort it out later. If you were supposed to be on there, then they count the vote, otherwise its discarded.
So once they have this list, they can just go down the list of democrats and raid every house
State should send along the voter rolls.
Printed on paper and with first names, last initial, the ward/district they live in and no party affiliation and a few randomly generated code numbers to just fuck things up in the database… or better yet, send the paper lists with the names redacted with sharpie markers, and leave the party affiliations. use old school printouts that are photocopied (and send those) so no one can hold the paper up to the light to see what’s under the redactions…
Deflect and use Trump’s own words about the Epsteinn files to justify “…following in President Trump’s bold leadership style…”
Time to out Trump the decrepit old fucker.
They never said they wanted their current database.
Oooooo! Bold move sending historic data… I like it!
Malicious compliance
and a few randomly generated code numbers to just fuck things up in the database
Little Bobby Tables, we call him.
