cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/59392382


TikTok wants users to believe that errors blocking uploads of anti-ICE videos or direct messages mentioning Jeffrey Epstein are due to technical errors—not the platform seemingly shifting to censor content critical of Donald Trump after he hand-picked the US owners who took over the app last week.

However, experts say that TikTok users’ censorship fears are justified, whether the bugs are to blame or not.

Ioana Literat, an associate professor of technology, media, and learning at Teachers College, Columbia University, has studied TikTok’s politics since the app first shot to popularity in the US in 2018. She told Ars that “users’ fears are absolutely justified” and explained why the “bugs” explanation is “insufficient.”

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    11 days ago

    Wow, a bug that specifically automatically chose keywords like “ICE”, and “epstein”, then blocked them from appearing, while leaving literally all other content unharmed??? How conveniently specific and well-timed! /s

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      Like someone else said, it might legitimately have been a bug: maybe they didn’t mean for the censorship to be visible to the person using those keywords, and it’d just be everyone else who can’t see them. That way you’d think everything is fine but mysteriously your Epstein / ICE content just doesn’t get any views

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        7 days ago

        What a big oopsies, y’all found out about our behind the scenes Zionist propaganda. You weren’t suppose to see that. Pretend you ever say anything.

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    12 days ago

    So people are upset that they can’t get the info or propaganda they want on tick tock…

    Which tells me that these people think that tick tock is a reputable place to get this kind of information

    I have heard more about this tick tock bullshit than I have heard about the ice bullshit today and that should say a lot about nature of our society here in America.

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      it was the only place to get actual unspun news about the genocide in gaza, which is so heavily censored in the west that a couple livestreams threatens the whole house of cards. obviously the chinese have their own censorship but if your in the west your trying to escape western propaganda not chinese propaganda

      same reason why chinese kids flock to discord/other services. though from what i hear chinese doesn’t really care so much if you know/speak about X internal-propaganda subject, just long as you don’t “agitate” or try to orginize against it.

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      Nothing to do with the fact that Larry Ellison is a jew and the largest individual contributor to Israel, right?

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        Everything to do with it because TikTok is bad for Western imperialist optics and radicalised the youth as the genocide in Gaza was getting livestreamed. Nothing religious or ethnic though, this is just a money move. 🤷

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      Balderdash! That type of stuff only happens in dictatorships.
      Next you’ll be telling me there’s a bunch of masked Gestapo goons running around shooting innocent people and kidnapping non whites…

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    it was one of the last platform that allows significant criticism against ISrael without being censored, thats why.

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      Ah, but that’s the thing. There are always new platforms.

      The current winner seems to be a new one called Upscrolled.

      The guy behind it is a Palestinian out of Jordan, with Australian citizenship?

      Anyway, that’s all I currently know about it, the app is being hugged to death by tens of thousands of new users over the last day or two.

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        11 days ago

        Not Open Source…

        It is considerably more open and build on open source technologies and they do want to become decentralized “once the open protocols mature (?)” but still, can someone educate the kids on software freedom please.

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      10 days ago

      That’s when it was under Chinese ownership, remember they had to sell the US Tiktok to a Yankee company

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    Find. Another. Service.

    TikTok is dead — just like Twitter. I don’t understand people who cling to these services. Might as well post on MySpace while you’re at it.

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        Saw “no censorship” in the description, and had suspicions because it’s a common dogwhistle for “we’ll allow the most vile people as long as they’re not technically breaking the law”. Got the app, and immediately scrolled past a “Jews secretly run the world” post followed shortly by a “Hitler was right about the Jews” post. Yeah, the problem with “no censorship” is that it inevitably falls prey to the Nazi bar problem.

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        11 days ago

        Or Loops? The federated, no special interests version of TikTok. You’re already on lemmy, why advocate for yet another corporate social media company?

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          I like the idea of a federated version of that, but there are many problems:

          1. When people scroll, they need an algorithm to choose content for them.
          2. 99% of average TikTok content is low quality shit and it’s the algorithm to find and promote what works
          3. All that 99% of shit is occupying exabytes on bytedance servers. Users are uploading terabytes of shit every hour, it’s impossibile for a federated instance to keep all this shit on disk. Look how Lemmy is designed for example. I upload an image and then it’s stored forever in hundreds of instances. For videos is untenable. Only companies that are profiting from this (for example using such videos for training ai models, or using this videos to hook people and serve them highly personalized ads) can host a TikTok clone
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    11 days ago

    Might not be a lie. They might be silently rolling a feature to selectively censor/ show ICE fascists and accidentally censored all by mistake lol

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    11 days ago

    Hey, now I am not able to watch videos about my favorite fast train from Germany, the InterCityExpress, ICE. /s

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    Maybe—and I’m going out on a limb here—just maybe, using centralized media to document State-sponsored domestic terrorism is a fucking stupid idea. Especially since the very same platform is co-owned by the State.

    Y’all, we already went through this with Xitter. Sorry you fell for it again, but this won’t be the last time if you continue to cling to platforms owned by the very people who want to censor you.

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        11 days ago

        You’re not, but as counterintuitive as it may seem, there are people who use the Fediverse and big platforms like TikTok, Xitter, etc. My words are for them.

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      especially one that reaches a wider range of young gen z people who had not been captured by other alt-right social media yet.

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    Why doesn’t anyone see this for what it is. They put monitoring for certain keywords but fucked up the code and it blocked some users through incompetence. They fixed the filters, but I guarantee they are sending reports to the White House…