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They don’t even wear high-visibility vests. Are they stupid?
Their dock workers aren’t even inconveniencing anyone.
How’s it even a country?
I mean, they use all of those things in the US too, but that stuff is the floor for anti protest/riot cops, not the ceiling.
The majority of Americans are over worked, stressed out and do not have the energy to start a general strike or create another 1789. However, an individual AmeriKan will resort to the quick and easy violence with a firearm to solve a problem. Weird. I respect the French and their ability to organize a general strike better than anyone in Europe and the planet.
So,… maybe set some shit on fire? Intead of beers and football games, try other extra curriculars?
It’s also borderline impossible to organize on the scale needed without getting infiltrated by the feds here. The US is fucking enormous, which means we need large scale organization to really do much, but opsec only gets more complicated and more difficult the larger you organize, especially when your resources are limited.
News organizations will spin shit as well and then propaganda networks will flip things.
It definetely makes it hard, but just a few state-level ones would still improve everything no?
I mean, that’s already happening. To me it doesn’t really look like it’s working, but maybe I’m wrong.
The American state-oligarch apparatus is REALLY good at unionbusting, strikebreaking, and general anti-solidarity social engineering
I like to think this is the real reason the French have been vilified as cowards and weak in the American Zeitgeist.
So we don’t look at our brothers in arms and join with them.
American Liberalism was the basis of the left, and we kicked it right out of the USA after the civil war, The French however took it and ran.
We need to dump some cow shit in front of the White House and set some tires in fire.
I’ve been thinking this too for a little while now. It fits too perfectly. Throughout my adolescence, I hated the French. Proudly, openly, I thought it was funny and edgy for some reason, because I’ve always been disgusted by racism and I am a tiny part French. Edgy teenage bullshit. As I aged out of teen years though, there came a point where something caused me to investigate my own bias with honesty. And when I did, I found it to be totally empty and devoid of substance. I had absolutely no real reason to dislike the French, and these days I feel nothing but love for them.
I’m convinced the only reason I ever hated them was because of propaganda. Never had a bad personal experience. And Parisian ‘rudeness’ is revealed to be, in my opinion, simple straightforward bluntness. The propaganda is incredibly effective. Americans would benefit greatly if we could all take just a few notes from them; they have a cultural understanding that the government works for the people, not against. And if it’s not doing it’s job, take whatever action needed to restore balance. Seeing footage of their protests starting a few years back really opened my eyes to what could be done.
UK here, no-one pretends to hate the French more than the UK. We have literally hundreds of years worth of war and shared inbred rulers between us.
Personally, I have nothing but mad respect for how fast the French are to whip out a quick reminder of how it starts, with the strong implication that everyone remembers how it ends if left ignored.
Wasnt the the last French protest and riots about the raising of retirement age? And didnt that happen anyway?
Im really asking, I think Im correct.
Yes. But at least they went and protested en masse.
They didn’t go far enough
They are waiting the elections bro! Mid elections, final elections, 2026 elections and goes on.
Aren’t they also patiently waiting for Chat Control to pass, or are the French fine with it?
As an accomplished wizard, I can definitively state that fireball is the first, best solution to all problems.
Also the second, and depending on your level, third. Depends on available spell slots.
At this point, I can only imagine it’s out of spite. The regime wants violence, and we are certainly capable of it. But denying them the response they are begging for seems to really blue ball them.
We’re going to die probably. But on our terms, not theirs.
There is something to this, though. If people start behaving violently, the administration will label them as some kind of radicalized terrorist and respond with military force, and then probably blame black or indigenous or immigrant or trans/nb people as the reason for the radicalization and come down even harder on these marginalized populations
They are going to do that anyways. Watch the polls this November. They will incite violence, then order people to disperse, denying them their right to vote.
Mmmmmm that’s good rationalization
Thats one way to cope with the situation I guess.
yeah, sure
Dictators use instigators to escalate the situation and remove personal freedoms. People are being smart and not falling for instigators, all history books shows how they use infiltrataded people to cause the authoritarian regime to attack protester. So I think people are being smart and they afraid from midterms and trying everything to see if they can have a provocateur before the midterms.
Yeah, because ICE is sure showing respect for laws and norms, don’t want to risk that by defending yourself!
Because nothing’s broken. This is how it’s supposed to work.
They should’ve written the 2nd amendment in French lol
In France, the worst they will likely be met with is water cannons, tear gas, and potentially rubber bullets/beanbag rounds.
In America, it’s more likely to be automatic assault rifles.
… AND THE HOOOME OF THE BRAAAAAVE
Ba dum tis!
automatic assault rifles
This is redundant, by definition all assault rifles have auto or burst fire modes. Anyone (including lawmakers) in the US who claims otherwise is incorrect.
Burst fire is not available on civilian models out of the box in the US
Those are not assault weapons. Any legislator who says so is wrong.
If they want to ban weapons, fine, but use the correct terminology.
Yeah that’s not true. Semiautomatic assault rifles are very common in the US, more available by far than full auto.
Assault rifles have select fire, by definition.
I’m not American. I’m only aware of them in passing. It’s not the sort of thing we learn about in school, over here.
I learned about this stuff from video games. The MA5B is full auto.
You may be right, I don’t know shit about guns, but relying on information from a video game is not the smartest. The person deciding on what mechanics the different guns have, may not know anything about the topic.
What about burst fire?
French cops also shoot people who just drive away.
On 27 June 2023, Nahel Merzouk (25 February 2006 – 27 June 2023),[1] a 17-year-old French youth of Moroccan and Algerian descent,[2] was shot at point-blank range and killed by police officer Florian M., when he did not comply with an order to stop and instead attempted to drive away in Nanterre, a suburb of Paris, France. Initial reporting on the incident (informed by police statements) was later contradicted by a video posted online, which led to widespread protests and riots. Symbols of the state such as town halls, schools, police stations, and other buildings were attacked.[3] The Interior Ministry reported that more than 5,000 vehicles had been set on fire, along with 10,000 garbage cans; nearly 1,000 buildings had been burnt, damaged or looted; 250 police stations and gendarmeries had been attacked; and more than 700 police officers had been injured.[4][5]
The killing—condemned by President Emmanuel Macron as “inexplicable” and “inexcusable”[6]—became part of a broader public debate regarding aggressive French law enforcement,[7] racial profiling,[8] immigration,[9] and the stakes of naming the subsequent suburban violence “rioting” rather than “revolts”.[10] On 28 June, the president of the National Assembly, Yaël Braun-Pivet, asked deputies “to respect a minute of silence in Nahel’s memory”.[11][12]
Police kill someone in France:
Massive violent protests, burning police stations and police cars
Incident condemned by governmentPolice kill someone in the USA:
Nonviolent protests
Government defends the killerSure and that gets a wikipedia page for you to cite. You’re not wrong, just heavily downplaying the problem with this whataboutism. It’s not about France where this thing is an exception, but about the US where this is becoming the norm.
French cops: using less lethals according to the manual.
'Merica cops: point blank, headshots (unless you’re preggers), gas the kids
If you think french cops follow the manual I have a bridge to sell you
checks the Internet search engine
American police are significantly more lethal, with fatal shooting rates in 2019 being 22 times higher (3.1 per million) than in France (0.14 per million).
… … I dunno, that feels like a pretty significant difference
That still doesn’t mean french cops are not also dangerous during protests. I’m not trying to say they’re more dangerous than your brown shirts, I’m saying that protesting also isn’t risk free in France, and claiming that french cops follow the rules is simply incorrect.
When you look at the damage French protests cause vs the violence they incite in cops, it’s relatively safe compared to the violence us cops perpetrate in retribution to completely peaceful protests in the us, or even just violence top bystanders in the US. Add in that French protests actually accomplish something and the risk benefit calculations are so totally different.
If you’ve only experienced french protests through international medias, you probably have a very skewed view of both the actual damage they create and their effectiveness.
Protests are famously attractive for the kind of person who enjoys hurting others, on both sides. Difference is that only one side can hurt others while being protected by the system.
They’re all full of stories and excuses because none of them can figure out how to do anything beyond going out for a walk every couple months.
It occurs to me, pregnant women who want abortions in states where it is illegal should just go to a protest…
I get what you’re saying, but if you ask me, being murdered by a fascist is a rather drastic method of abortion…
You say that like you can’t get your own automatic assault rifles in America.
You can’t. I feel like you don’t know what an automatic rifle or an assault rifle is.
Modifying them is trivially easy, so any can be full auto, but burst fire is superior anyway. Full auto is only for psychological coolness.
Oh for sure, I call it “a great way to turn a lot of money into a lot of noise” lol. It’s pretty useless outside of specific military applications.
You can, they just cost like $10k-$50k (if you want one legally).
Otherwise, crime gonna crime.
Lol yeah that’s true. I’m just assuming they didn’t mean that only eccentric rich people can get automatic assault rifles, whatever that contradiction in terms means.
I definitely am not talking only about eccentric rich people, you are correct.
Not as easily as modifying a semi automatic.
