When you bring "your"food across our borders, it becomes “our” food
Theft is how the English language works, so why not food too? Since the actual English suck at the food part, America is happy to pick up the slack. Some of us are even appreciative of it.
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Fuck yeah, bud’, I’m here for it.
Um, people eat tacos for breakfast all over Mexico.
I just had what I think is such an American fry up for breakfast:
Tater tots, soft scrambled eggs, refried beans, sliced avocado and onion, sharp cheddar, and chipotle salsa.
Cuban sandwich is American - the bread is Cuban (I asked several people from Cuba) and while we have made some foods worse (fast food Chinese) some are better too - there is great Italian American food, certainly, and fusion stuff that is amazing. And fried chicken can be so good. I think we are aquisitive as fuck, both the language (we will take your word and make it part of English) and with foods. For better and worse.
Hamburgers, meatloaf, gumbo, and all sorts of southern food is American.
*Edit. Some of you think hamburgers weren’t an American creation. Y’all are incorrect. The humburg meat was never put between bread. The sandwich hamburger is a US creation.
Hamburger were invited in Athens Texas. Just go ask that city they advertise that it was a man from that town at the World Fair in the 1930’s.
Literary all of those dishes have origins outside of the US lol
You’re literally wrong. A hamburger as a sandwich is a US creation. So is gumbo. Literally do a 2 minute search about it before “thinking” you know what you’re talking about. Lol
So does all human society, this is a stupid argument.
I find it fascinating that almost half of the world has their own dumpling (ie. a small ball of a cheap source of protein and fat held together by a wrapping of flour dough; a peasant dish that’s most often boiled).
I bet if you they would all dispute the origin of that food item.
My point is that US people tend to claim ownership to a lot of things that were not invented there. I’m all for sharing culture and food and transforming them to something new, but don’t claim they are your invention.
Like as american as apple pie is an expression for a dish from Germany and the Netherlands.
Nah, I as an naturalized American citizen I do not want stuff I create to be called “Chinese”, its xenophobic. I mean, you can say “Chinese-American” to refer to me but not “Chinese”. Cuz why is a white US Citizen creating stuff labeled as “American” while stuff I make is not “American”? Double standards.
If I come up with a new food receipe, its American food. If I make a painting, that’s made by an American artist. If I publish a book, that’s written by an American writer. Don’t fucking try to “other” me.
Meanwhile, German Chocolate Cake has nothing to do with Germany!
It was created by a guy with the last name of German…
The chocolate was made by a man named Samuel German in the 1850s, but recipe for the cake that uses the chocolate was made by a Mrs. George Clay, who sent her recipe into the Dallas Morning News in 1957.
That’s hilarious. I never heard of German chocolate cake. Black forest though is dope!
We invented the chocolate chip cookie, man. That pretty much means we won. Lol
Haha, can’t argue with that logic. And cookie dough ice cream!
My point is that nationalism is poisoning society and destroying the ecosystem, and this discussion isn’t helping.
That I completely agree with and concede the point.
Dude, Hamburgers are literally named after the non-US city they originally came from…
But I have to admit that the refinement to its delicious present day form is an American achievement!The original hamburger was more like a meatloaf. It was a hamburg steak, meant to be eaten with a fork and knife just like a modern meatloaf. The modern hamburger is 100% an American invention, because America was the place that first turned it into a sandwich.
That’s a Hamburg steak. Not a hamburger, since there’s no bun
Na, buddy. You’re wrong. The Hamburg thing is just about a mashed up piece of meat. Not the hamburger. Putting the meat in the bun to make a sandwich is 100% US like 125 years ago.
That’s quite disputed.
One of the more likely theories states that the bun idea together with the ground meat steak originated in Hamburg, where it was a variant of the common “Rundstück warm”, which has been around since 200 years ago or so.It’s less disputed than most food origins. I looked up your rundstuck warm food. Dunno why you’re trying to make that argument, because because that sure looks nothing like a hamburger, nor does it get eaten like one. That it didn’t use ground beef aside, it being covered in gravy is a dead giveaway.
I have to think of a lot of fish dishes too. Since we only have them here. I don’t think Walleye is from anywhere else. Maybe I’m wrong.
Walleye isn’t a preparation, it’s an animal.
Preparing pineapple or mango isn’t native either and included in these comparisons.
I didn’t say anything about nativeness. Also seems like you forgot to finish your sentence, I’m really not sure what you are trying to say here.
Italia is missing out on Chicago Style Pan Pizza and Italian Beef sandwiches. Thank you Italian immigrants for adapting and creating the delicious food.
Chicago Style Pan Pizza
That’s a casserole.
Italian Beef sandwiches
That’s a sandwich with beef in a panini.
Please don’t misuse European countries names as adjectives, that’s offensive.
Pizza Americana. Torta Americana. Amerikan Salatasi. Cool American Doritos.
Torta Americana
Thats a Nestle product name. Nestle is USA company.
Same with Cool American Doritos, it’s USa company naming it.
No idea what Salatsi is, sounds Turkish. Turkey is not European.
“Pizza Americana” is a Pizza Hut invention as far as I can tell.
Try again.
Nestle is Swiss. The Doritos are called that because Euro countries call our “ranch” dressing “American” dressing. Turkiye is on the Eurasian border with parts in both continents. I can’t easily find where the pizza was first marketed but that’s not even relevant to the point: the rest of the world is using our country’s name as an adjective for food so fuck you we’re doing it too.
Nestle is Swiss
Fuck me with a rusty rake. You’re right. It is Swiss.
The Doritos are called that because Euro countries call our “ranch” dressing “American” dressing
Literally we don’t eat ranch dressing here, it is only in chips and mcdonalds and shiet. And that is for sure USA owned.
Turkiye is on the Eurasian border with parts in both continents.
Turkey is not European, whenever it might lie.
the rest of the world is using our country’s name as an adjective for food so fuck you we’re doing it too.
No, it is your style - see “french fries”. In Europe it’s “fries”.
*Temu versions of our food.
Just like their knock-off version of rugby.
I’m sure someone has tried it, but it would be interesting if a Chinese American whose family has been running a Chinese restaurant in the US for a century opened up a location in Hong Kong.
I wonder if the locals would snub it, or find it kitchy and charming.
There’s PF Chang in China, but it’s branded as an American restaurant lol
Which is accurate, but Philip Chiang (cofounder) is a first-generation immigrant whose mother helped bring other-than-Cantonese Chinese cuisine to American restaurants. It’s not like a bunch of white dudes were sitting down to appropriate a foreign food culture.
I mean if an immigrant gets US Citizenship, whatever food they make from then on is technically, by definition “American Food”.
I mean like you can’t be calling food made by while people “American food” then if a non-white person makes it is not “American”??? Be consistent lmao.
It sounds like your comment is missing some context and nuance. If an immigrant gets US citizenship the US does not then get to claim saag paneer lol
The US could have done something with indigineous food but they did some pretty awful things to those people and refuse to acknowledge much of any of their cultures.
American food is corn syrup.
American food is whatever I eat in America 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
God damn, finally one of those 2 something for you channels on lemmy! They were funny
I don’t think people really realize how much food has changed in the past few centuries. I was talking with this Pakistani dude and he was telling me about this traditional dish. Like half the ingredients were from the Columbian exchange.
The amount and variety of spices we have is just crazy in a historical context. For most humans for most of human history, meals consisted of grains in a pot, whatever veggies you could scrounge up (which looked very little like they do today), and a little meat if you were lucky.
Same thing in Italy. We act like our traditional dishes are something we’ve been eating for centuries while almost all of them became a thing after WWII, during the economic boom, when a lot of people became able to afford a larger variety of ingredients, the cold chain became efficient, and we started to import recipes and food from foreign countries, and anyway the original and popular version of some classics was completely different from what we eat today and consider traditional. It is still true that many dishes are peculiar of our traditional cousine, but the way we act about it is just patriotic nonsense. Pasta itself might be historically considered more of an us italian-american thing than an italian dish
Same with Italian food. Tomatoes were only introduced to Europe in the 16th century.
Leonardo da Vinci lived his whole life never knowing what a tomato was.
Well at least our Finnish national dish is still traditional. Take cubed beef and pork. Put them in water. Add salt. Put on heat for a sufficient amount of time.
That’s it.
Fancy modern versions have peppers and whatnot but traditionally it’s just salt.
Salt. Don’t forget the SALT
Doh!
My favorite will always be wartime foods. Shit on a shingle and spam on rice are fucking amazing.
Beans on toast is prime 🤌 Toast with butter and marmite. Glug of Worcestershire. Grate some parmesan. Cracked pepper.
It especially hits on a cold snowy day
What about post wartime foods? After WWII in Japan there was a hotel that had a ton of surplus ketchup, so one chef decided that putting it on pasta wouldn’t be a crime against humanity. Despite the fact that he was wrong, it still persists as a popular dish to this day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naporitan
Naporitan is my favourite Japanese food
Ketchup is the default pasta sauce. Felix ketchup is the one to swear by, can’t stand Heinz.
Ketchup is the key ingredients in swedish mest sauce.
I’m guessing that’s why no one talks about Sweden when talking pasta sauce
Your loss 🤷
That’s unholy and should be cleansed with fire and chanting.
I tried to get into ketchup spaghetti. I tried
Why would you do that to yourself? I was tricked into eating it because I saw red sauce on spaghetti and decided that of course it was pasta sauce. Why would anyone ever not put pasta sauce on pasta? I had to stop myself from spitting it out when the weird sweet sensation that was supposed to be savory hit me.
Had the same reaction when I tried to find tomato/vegetable juice and it was similarly disgustingly sweet. Who puts sugar in vegetable juice? Just drink a smoothie with fruit ffs.
Peasant food, because peasants knew how to feed a family with cheap hearty ingredients, which keep you full. Whenever you imagine a cozy “I’m ready for a nap after eating” meal, it is almost always peasant food that you’re imagining.
I’m pretty sure I would want a nap after eating an entire beef wellington, but I wouldn’t call that peasant food.
Seriously. I love Korean army stew.
