Cost me 200eur towards the end of 2023. Crazy, I’d sell it if I didn’t need it.
All of these fucks kiting $10B checks need to be locked up for price fixing.
When I saw people’s already processed orders getting cancelled with no reason other than to price gouge I was infuriated.
The level of greed in this world sickens me.
When the yet-to-be data centers never get built because AI slop bubble pops, we will be able to build houses out of RAM sticks for the poor
Theyll just manufacture another reason to keep prices high
Ahhh the de beers technique
Slaves have become very expensive. Pay more for rock.
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the problem with data center hardware is that they are often bespoke and nowadays can’t be reused in a consumer context. Think about those headless GPUs, they probably making these RAM modules with a different interface.
They will just be e-waste instead of having the possibility of being surplus.
The modules yes, but ram is bought on the chip level. If the modules are never built, the chips can be reused in normal dimms.
Worst case we get a new HBM dimm format :D
Those headless GPUs are great for simulation work in blender and other creative tools. I’d love an opportunity to buy a good used one on the cheap.
Damn never thought the gaming PC I built two years ago would actually be APPRECIATING in value over time.
Just about all electronics older than a year or so have. Even a Switch, which came out 9 years ago, costs more to buy now than it did then!
Wait what? I still remembered it as a recent console…
I feel like my brain is stuck. When I think of most powerful GPU, my brain’s muscle memory replies with 1080 Ti.
Certainly the most powerful GPU I’ve bought! I got mine 2 years ago for about $120, and it’s been great for my docker containers!
It’s truly mental. I don’t think I could afford to build my PC at the same spec today with RAM and SSD prices being what they are.
I have 128 GB of ddr5 memory in my machine. I paid 1400 for my 7900xtx which I thought was crazy and now half my ram is worth that.
Never thought I would see the day where the graphics card was not the most expensive component.
Maybe you should have bought 256 GB
I should not have even gotten the 128.
I can use it but barely at 4600 because ryzen chips can’t handle 4 dimms of 32gvb.
I honestly didn’t even bother to check at the time of purchase and it is is still a roll of the dice if I restart.
Sell two, wait until the crash, and upgrade for less money. Win-win!
Apple: see!? We do not inflate our ram prices!!!
Increasing RAM (from 16) and SSD space (from .5TB) on a laptop now is easily +$1k and up.
for you
- posted from my Lenovo Thinkpad x250
Chuckles in x200s with 8GB of RAM since 2009…
Apple users:
Ruining the PC market for consumers on purpose so people will think it’s cheaper to rent computers than to own.
In the future, you will lease your computer and not own it, just as you are told to do by the billionaires who steal your pay.
Yep cloud providers definitely came up with the AI boom in a roundabout conspiracy to end PCs. Total direct chain there.
In the future you will connect to a corporate owned terminal and use an online hosted OS, where your files are kept in their cloud ecosystme.
This article sucks… I think they felt the need to excuse AI lest they upset corporate masters
While it’s easy to point the finger at AI’s unquenchable memory thirst for the current crisis, it’s not the only reason.
Followed by:
DRAM production hasn’t kept up with demand. Older memory types are being phased out, newer ones are steered toward higher margin customers, and consumer RAM is left exposed whenever supply tightens.
Production has not kept up with demand… demand being super charged by AI purchases
…newer ones are steered towards higher margin customers… again AI
consumer RAM is left exposed whenever supply tightens… because of AI
The LLM writing this feels almost sentient lol.
You see, it’s easy to blame AI data centers buying all the RAM - but that’s only half the story! the other half of the story is manufacturers selling to these data centers
Apple was overpricing RAM before it was cool.
nice profile pic! Snatcher was a gg
Thanks! I was blown away by the quality of voice work in a game back then. Combined with the story, it was a real treat.
I can’t believe how lucky I was to upgrade my desktop before the surge. This is an outrage!
Me too, I added more than I could use because today’s gaming rig is tomorrow’s server. Now I’m debating if I should sell a few sticks but who knows when, if ever, I’ll be able to replace them.
I did my desktop but skipped my server.
Even decade+ old used surplus server DDR4 didn’t escape the apocalypse.
I upgraded January last year. My only regret now is not getting 64GB of ram
Same … I hadn’t upgraded since 2012, and had some extra cash, so rebuilt in August. Feeling pretty lucky to have done it then, and really glad I went ahead and put 64GB RAM in it.
You waited a long time holy shit. I regret not getting 64 gb in 2024 when I did my current build.
Yea, the 2012 build was a 3770k with 16 gb ram, multiple SSDs, a GTX680, etc. So it was a pretty fast machine back in the day.
I upgraded the video card and SSD drives several times, just didn’t have the budget to replace it all at once for a long time.
That processor was nice overclocked for a while so I am not surprised.
Same. Feel like I could sell my rig for more than it cost me a 18 months ago.
Minus the case and video card, I have an entire 3rd gen i7 machine sitting in a box that would actually make a pretty good machine for a lot of different uses.
I did as well which is a polite way of saying I blew all my RAM savings on the how overpriced GPUs were at the time
Built a new PC in April 2025. 192GB DDR5 for 650€. This is totally insane.
Im on Linux and it requires just as much memory as it did in 2018. No problem here.
I upgraded mine from 16GB to 32GB two years ago beacuse RAM was cheap. I didn’t really need it, and have probably never hit 16GB usage anyway.
Meanwhile my work Windows laptop uses 16GB at idle after first login.
Windows has always been wasteful computing, and everyone just pays for it.
Seems like you (or your company) installed loads of bloat.
You do know you can disable programs from starting during boot, right?
I fired up procexp and found nessus scanning every file on my drive. I found the SentinelOne had written 10GB of logs since start. I found some bullshit dell service was slamming the CPU. It’s all shit that my company put there.
I found that it adds an extra 7 minutes to a 12 minute build when I compile my project, compared to doing it on WSL. The Windows bloat is insane.
I wish I had a 32gb ram laptop.
I can have 3 development IDEs open at once, and with all the browser tabs open and a few other programs here and there its stretching the limits on my Mac.
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I have 32GB on my Windows PC laptop it can’t do three at once.
Running the backend (java) and the frontend (react native) in intellij uses 29GB RAM, so I must run Android on real hardware over ADB+USB. Running an android simulator pushes it over the edge.
Also: Laptops are shit. On Windows, the tau is so bad that the cores are throttled straight after boot because the cooling is rubbish. It almost never hits full speed. It can’t survive more than 40 minutes on a full battery. It might as well be a NUC.
Are you using a cooling pad?
Yep. With active fans.
You might want to use Process Manager or the like to see if something is pegging the CPU/GPU. What is the model?
I’m fairly sure it’s all the antivirus, which in itself is a kernel rootkit. The whole laptop is getting replaced in a month so there’s not much point in fixinig it.
What does Windows have to do with cooling? That is a hardware problem.
You’d have the same issues if you installed Arch on it.
Stop blaming Windows for all your problems.
Ya, macs are definitely more efficient with their ram.
I’ll have Android Studio open for my main work, Intellij Idea for all the backend work, and Xcode when I need to tweak some iPhone things. (edit: usually it’s just 2 of the 3, but sometimes its all 3)
I also mainly use real devices for testing,and opening emulators if all 3 are open can be a problem, and it’s so annoying opening and closing things.
Empty ram is inherently wasteful.
Linux doesn’t waste RAM. All unused RAM becomes a disk read cache, but remains available on demand.
Cool, so the thing you stated wasn’t what happened, and you’re correcting me for not fact checking your comment.
Requiring less RAM is good, but conceptually, it’s Linux that is “wasting” the RAM by never using it. It’s there, and it’s reusable, fill it up! Now, does Windows make good use of it? No idea. Wouldn’t bet on it, but I could be surprised.
Linux uses “free” ram for caching, so it’s not really wasted.
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Storing data in ram isn’t wasteful though, I have a lot of criticisms of windows but the memory management isn’t one of them. I’d rather have as much predictive content be staged in ram as possible as long as it’s readily dumped out if I go to do something else, which is my experience. Like I don’t earn interest for having unused RAM on my computers (for reference I have an endeavorOS, rhel, fedora, and windows computers under my desk connected to a dual monitor kvm right now; it isn’t like I don’t regularly use/prefer Linux; I mostly access my windows machine via rustdesk for work related stuff I don’t feel like having to dick with on Linux like the purchase order system and Timecard system), I just don’t get this critique.
The DDR4 sticks I got 18 months ago now cost 300-400% the price they were, so it’s not just DDR5.
… and I just realised the title doesn’t actually mean “DDR5 prices”, but that was an easy misinterpretation on my part, so I guess I’ll post this anyway.
TBF that is a crucial ram stick in the picture, those are rare shinies now
Not at microcenter. Their bundles are full of crucial chips. Just built one for a buddy last week.
I more meant now they’re not being made because Micron recently killed the Crucial brand to focus supply towards data center customers
I’m well aware, but everybody knows the HBM demand will dry up eventually and that eventually the consumer market will be worth trying to profit from again.
They just want to manipulate the consumer market to maximize margins. If they can get memory prices to stay at 200-300% for a while, they can up the prices they charge and raise margins to stratospheric heights not before seen on the consumer market. All manufacturers jump on stuff like this when they can get away with it.
Memory manufacturers still order from micron directly for their own branded chips. Those margins will increase for all parties. Ai data center demand is like Christmas for the entire industry. No pricing is transparent and every vendor is profiteering.
Same shit as groceries and toilet paper etc staying high after the vaccine. Fuck the corpos.
Wixh I stocked up on RAM early. Easy escape from poverty.
This is the future
liberalsno one wants.Huh? With a republican pedo in The White House you’re somehow blaming liberals?
Pretty sure it’s a joke in the same vein as “Thanks Obama”.
I thought it was obvious.
Yeah, sorry. Been bumping into stupid alt-right shit all week.
I looked at how much my 128GB DDR4 costs and holy shit £900. Timed my build well I feel with the 3080Ti.
sell it and buy again cheaper later on -> profit
Can’t wait to enjoy cheap PC parts again while eating cat meat in a burned out car under a collapsed overpass.
If you sell your RAM quickly enough, you might be able to afford the dog meat, my friend.
