- cross-posted to:
- BuyFromEU@europe.pub
- cross-posted to:
- BuyFromEU@europe.pub
Red Bull - European but Far right
Buy European but … Also with ethical considerations.
Red Bull might sound cool, but they have their own TV station in Austria. (servus TV) And that station js beyond far right. Spreading disinformation, and Russian propaganda, Corona Bullshi, Ivermectint, cleaning stuff with chlorid, climate change deniers, … If there is a conspiracy they support it …
(And it’s also not very healthy,…)
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Did you just got here from reddit or what? Or is it some toung in cheek /s stuff too elaborate for me?
No, I’m not new. This account is new because you can’t use mod tools properly if your account is on a separate instance from the modded community (e.g. you don’t get reports, can’t sticky stuff, etc).
And you also might not actually see the whole discussion going on here since you are on lemmy.world due to defederation between lemmy.world and other instances and so. I’m just reminding everyone to keep it civil since this community has had heated discussions before and the discussion easily slips into nationalism, which is against our rules.
Are you a moderator? Of .world or maybe on your server? Just trying to figure it out here.
No worries, I’m a mod on !buyeuropean@feddit.uk community. Not an admin on .world or feddit.uk, just a feddit.uk user that is also a moderator of buyeuropean@feddit.uk
I don’t drink Red bull but still would like a more thorough article or information about this
Wikipedia provides a starting point!
I don’t drink it because it’s trash, but I had no idea about any of this. The word needs to be spread.
Servus TV is a TV station based in Wals-Siezenheim in the Austrian state of Salzburgand owned by Red Bull Media House GmbH, a subsidiary of Red Bull GmbH, which also publishes the magazine Servus in Stadt und Land. The station is the successor to Salzburg TV, founded in 1995 and rebranded in 2009. It is politically aligned with the far right.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ServusTV
C’mon you have the fucking Internet, you can just search this shit yourself if you want more information.
C’mon you have the fucking Internet, you can just search this shit yourself if you want more information.
No I don’t think I will.
Damn, “Servus in Stadt und Land” doesn’t even need a translation to realize how racist it is.
Maybe next time use a translator just in case before commenting mate. Servus is the name of the TV station, “in city and country” is very hard for me, impossible really, to find anything racist in it.
I grew up in “the city in the country.” Look up “Poway.” It’s a dog whistle. Temecula is doing the same thing.
“Motto: “The City in the Country” ; Location in San Diego County ; Poway, California is located in San Diego County, California.”
"The motto of Temecula, California is “Old Traditions, New Opportunities”
You guys need to catch up with what’s going on.
They’re doing the same exact thing. It’s “make the land I’m from, return to normalcy.”
Servus literally means “Hello” in many German dialects, especially in Austria:
Servus, and various local variants thereof, is a salutation used in many parts of Central and Eastern Europe. It is a word of greeting or parting like the Italian ciao (which also comes from the slave meaning through Venetian s’ciavo).
Also, it is used precisely because most people were servants a dozen or more centuries ago.
That’s only one word in the greeting
It also tastes like shit and is prohibitively expensive compared to many energy drink brands
Also has even higher chances of giving you kidney stones than other sodas iirc
But isn’t that all energy drinks? Not that I have any clue, the only times I ever drank them was when I was 17 and they were mixed with vodka.
The ol’ heart exploder cocktail.
Idk honestly but I have read this factoid specifically about red bull several times on the Internet so it must be true (/s)
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I am permanently banned from making Reddit accounts because I got about 4 of them banned for “promoting violence”.
The violence? Telling people it was a good thing to punch Nazis. Reddit is a Nazi safe space.
I got a warning for upvoting pro-Canada stuff like “elbows up”. That is apparently promoting violence.
Well yeah, you’re promoting the same kind of violence that Ukraine continues to perpetrate on Russia.
Go fertilize a sunflower, Yuri :)
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“The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.”
Athur Harris described an element of the fascist mindset to a T with this quote, this bully mentality that can not comprehend the would-be victims fighting back.
I wonder why it applies so thoroughly to Russia?
Yeah, at this point Reddit is a sinking ship. Been using it for so long too. A little sad to see it go, but it’s a shell of what it used to be.
Yikes, Reddit is slowly killing itself. I remember years ago it was more the opposite - there were some seriously disturbing subs because they didn’t want any censorship. Now the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction and it’s hard to say anything of substance without getting warned or banned
Remember when you could say things like “The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi”? Wasn’t even that long ago.
Seriously, fuck Nazis. All of a sudden you’ve got Nazis in government and we’re supposed to act like you should tolerate that shit. Hmmm.
o Reddit is no place for normal people
Yep, permanently banned here for “ban evasion” though I only know 1 sub I was banned from and I never went there after. That’s okay, helped me quit what is clearly a hollow shell of user participation filled with a corpo bot sludge. It’s really easy to VPN up and make another account anyway, but why play in the garbage heap?
Interestingly, the site wide rules about violence are only supposed to be credible calls to action. Like if someone was actually planning to murder people and coordinating it on the site.
Saying you’d like to punch someone, even if they aren’t a Nazi, isn’t against the rules as they are written. Either they don’t understand their own rules, they are lazy fuckers who don’t want to do their jobs the correct way and actually investigate shit to make sure it actually violates the rules, or they are Nazi pieces of shit.
Not one of these things makes using the site sound like a good idea.
A system is what it does. Action matters more than intent. Reddit bans anti Nazi rhetoric, therefore it is a pro Nazi website.
Don’t lie, it doesn’t.
I was banned for “promoting violence” by saying, in a thread mocking Musk’s AI, that someone managed to get Musk’s AI to say that Musk and Trump deserve the death penalty.
Reddit is 100% defending Nazis by extending their definition of “promoting violence” to extreme lengths if you say something against the oligarchs and nazis but will twiddle their thumbs when people are literally calling to hurt and/or kill immigrants, non-white people or LGBTQ+ people.
Have been writing many times that burgerlanders should eliminate Trump, Musk, etc if they want to have their country. Not once has my account been even suspended. Only where I have been suspended was only Russian - Ukraine war subreddid few times. And last time after appellation they opened again.
My 5 banned accounts would say otherwise.
Well so much of free speach here. Ok, my account is too new here for posting a screenshot. But I was banned from @meme for saying that comminism is not great. So, what we have? In reddit farright as you say and in Lemm farleft?
Without checking, this was probably the .ml version of memes, luckily there are several other meme communities
Checked, yes, it was .ml version:)
I got banned, three times so far, for baiting and calling out ruzzian trolls. Apparently, telling them to go dig a fresh latrine pit for babushka, is inciting violence. Assholes.
They also support Israel’s apartheid and occupation, they are listed on the NoThanks app.
It’s also owned by the creator of the original Red Bull in Thailand, which is a different company, but it’s named after an extreme right wing paramilitary https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Gaurs
Wtffffff
idk about r/buyFromEU but r/europe on reddit is pretty right-wing
I think the buy EU thing (and for that matter, all this trade war bullshit) is one of those things that claims to be apolitical but is inherently nationalistic and so massively popular with/supported by/in support of the authoritarian right.
One of those salt of saturn political things that lets people pretend they aren’t right-wing.
we shouldn’t dismiss the movement as a whole just because some rightwingers are a part of it, but our choices with regard to consumption should be more nuanced than America bad, Europe good.
The idea of buying something only because it’s made in a certain country is nationalistic on its own
True. If the movement was called boycott facists, or even buy local I don’t think there would be the same problem.
I thought BuyFromEU was more about avoid US products… You know, because the Trump antiques and the corporatism there
If Germany’s CDU had a Reddit wing, r/Europe would be it lmao
It always had some shifty people but it got so much worse after they shut down the sub and later re-opened
Without reading the actual post, and my sole reaction to the thread title is: you can purchase Reddit mods?
10 to 15 years back when I still watched tv, I loved Servus TV: news, lots of documentaries, reports and some panel shows. Like, TV before enshittification. Absolutely nothing even remotely close to what this post is suggesting. Has it gone down since then, or is this post misinformation? Can anybody who’s still watching TV confirm this?
Misinformation, I’ll refer to my other comment https://mander.xyz/comment/17586770
Wait really? I live in the US granted but I don’t want to support any company that does heinous shit like this.
It’s greatly exaggerated, on ServusTV they just have all kind of people, so sometimes stupid people are there too. They have this format „Rechts-Links-Mitte“ (right left center) where they typically have around five people with heavily varying positions discussing with each other. So no, it’s not them supporting conspiracies but rather trying to find people for these discussions. On the other hand it means that the others get the chance to debunk fake news and conspiracies in those discussions, potentially getting viewers to change their position. You don’t achieve that by making these people not watch any discussions because “their guy” isn’t there anyway.
Before our election I liked watching their news since the ORF (öffentlich rechtlicher Rundfunk - our official TV where all the important stuff is) only talked about what’s wrong with so many people to make them vote for the FPÖ (far right party) and how they could be made reasonable again (blame on the people for voting for that party) while Servus TV talked about why people are voting for them and what other parties potentially could change to gain them back (blame on the parties for making decisions that led to losing voters to the FPÖ) (to clarify, I didn’t vote for the FPÖ and never world, I’m heavily opposing quite a few of their policies - regardless I can’t deny that they wouldn’t be as strong if our other parties acted differently, many people simply are voting for the FPÖ to express their protest which is why its good to discuss about what the other parties should change).
ServusTV also has great documentaries (mostly about Austria and neighbouring countries, for example about a group of mountains (sometimes even singular mountains), or about hiking trails, mountainbiking routes, ski touring, climbing, about a river, a lake, a city, a castle, a church, …).
My favourite aspect is that Red Bull heavily invests in sports, sponsoring many people that wouldn’t be able to follow their (often niche) sport without them.
Absolutely not a company that deserves a boycott imo. (I don’t buy anything from them though because I usually only drink water.)
That’s a half truth.
In that Format mentioned, they always make sure to have a 4 to 1 superiority in numbers against any center or left people and also only have them there for show. It is designed to tell people, that they are open for discussion. But in truth they spread far right propaganda and Russian propaganda. (Which is the same in Austria, since the FPÖ is famously “brought” and backed bay Putin.).
Recently their main host description of Ukraine was “drug fueled Nazi war mongers who attacked Russia”.
Is it like Jubilee?
I have a hard time believing that, where did they say that?
And no, it’s simply not true that they’re making that 4 to 1 to the right, unless they changed that since December (haven’t watched R-L-M lately). At least until November it usually was balanced, so the occasional anti-mainstream people got fact checked quickly by the four others.
This sounds dangerous tbh. I do not really watch ServusTV, nor do I know much about Red Bull business practices but stuff like the “Rechts-Links-Mitte” format sounds like they’re giving right wing extremists a platform to spread their misinformation and rhetoric. It might sound like a good idea to have opinions from all different kinds of people but media companies should have a moral duty to educate viewers and not foster misinformation by acknowledging every single opinion. That’s why you should be careful with things like these.
Furthermore the wikipedia article does mention ServusTV spreading misinformation about the covid vaccines, citing DerStandard and Tagesschau articles from 2021.
So all in all it seems the political reports on ServusTV should be taken with some suspicion. That does not mean they can’t have nice documentaries or sport broadcasts though.
As for Red Bull, they can’t really let ServusTV spread misinformation without actually supporting it. Probably makes them more money in some way. Might be a good idea to try out a suitable alternative energy drink if there is one.
It’s a double edged sword, yes. But in times like these (internet) people can present their views regardless, so I’d say its nice when they’re doing it somewhere where well-articulated and science-backed views get presented too and they can be fact checked. That’s how you win back people before they’re too deep in the rabbit hole, on the internet they quickly just fall into an echo chamber, only getting recommended similar articles, videos, … to the ones that they’re already reading/watching.
For people like me in the other hand it’s interesting to see from which kind of people they got some of their world views and makes it easier to prepare arguments against them.
I’d simply say discussions are a good thing for a democracy, I really don’t like the mindset of simply letting people fall out of touch with any mainstream information (which is mainstream for a reason) once they reject it on one topic. That leads to polarisation, radicalisation and a rising amount of voters for the pro-Russian parties.
Trump also would never have won if the USA wasn’t so polarised.
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They aren’t pushing the government to do anything? But one of the most common reasons why people vote for the FPÖ is protest against the other parties (yes, it’s a stupid way to protest), so maybe talking about what they could potentially change to gain their voters back is a good thing.
Dude, they literally invite some of the biggest names in modern Eurofascism to be on their shows. The English-language portion on ServusTV’s politics is just a short introduction. Switch to the German-language one for greater depth.
I’ve watched them in the past myself for their mountaineering programs, but after learning about their far-right connections, I’m unlikely to do so again. Because, even in that sense, the mountaineering connection becomes quite suspect given the historical ties between fascist ideology, aesthetics and the mountains of southern Germany/Austria. Susan Sontag outlined it better than I can.
Red Bull also tastes like shit.
This is disinformation at its finest. Red Bull absolutely does NOT taste like shit. It tastes like piss.
I didn’t know redbull was European and I didn’t know servus tv belonged to redbull
Red bull is original thai
Damn, red bull is my energy drink of choice. Anyone got a good alternative that doesn’t use alternative sweetener? So many of them use them and I can’t stand the flavor they have.
Coffee
Any off-brand energy is fine. Aldi has a pretty good one though it does use artificial sweeteners instead of, or in combination with, sugar.
Alternatively, give mate a try. Mio Mio has lots of flavours to choose from. The classic Club Mate is also always a gold choice. Pomegranate and peach iced tea are my favourites :)
I usually buy my energy drinks from gas stations, so I guess I’ll have to see what off brands they have. I am interested in mate, I’ll have to see what’s available near me. Thank you.
Regular good night sleep and avoiding junk food will give you wiiiiings
You can’t put that in a can to drink though
The one from LIDL
Club Mate is my energy drink of choice. Made in Germany.
Bullshit they actively promoting anti corona, pro Putin and far right wing plebs for the last 10 years now! I live in Austria and it’s ridiculous you try defend them. Yes they were an awesome tv station back then )until 2017. But nowadays it’s just a hate tv!
In the UK, not a fan of tea or coffee. I rarely use caffeine at all, but there are some days where I’m falling asleep at my desk and I need something.
Any recommendations?
20 minute nap under the desk.
I wish
Also, it’s full of sugar and caffeine and is really bad for you.
