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Watching Live PD last night. Guy runs on a motorcycle. They have the area surrounded after he ditches. They’re looking for him and one cop spots him. He commands the guy and he’s complying. He’s almost on his knees and another cop spots him. He ran, full on run, and leapt onto the guy that was almost on his knees. The other guy that was commanding jumped on him after that as well. Guy wasn’t resisting. Guy was complying. Guy had hands in the air. Guy wasn’t reaching for anything.
Cop after: “He ran and we didn’t know what he was capable of. So we tackled him and restrained him.”
It’s absolute cop wank material. All of it. The majority of the time they are way over reactive and then try to justify it all. They have that disclaimer, but then most of the time they never really follow up with info, or proper info. “Guy was booked on blah blah.” Ok, but was he actually convicted? Was he found guilty, or did you just over react and your “oh I totally for sure smell weed” was bullshit. I’m fucking sick of seeing that too. How many times has jackass said that only to find…nothing.
They’re immune to punishment for their actions, like the president of the US. That always ends well.
And then they say “he was following his training” when people get rightfully angry
And that’s a huge part of the problem. That is a part of the training. They are taught to see everyone and everything is a threat that wants them dead.
Add onto that cops the constantly work overtime you got a group of people who are sleep deprived, hyped up on caffeine and ready, willing, and able to shoot you for looking at them sideways and won’t be held accountable for doing so.
Killology baybee
How are there so many men growing up that want to abuse people and get away with it? It’s becoming a pandemic. Cruelty is becoming trendy. I’m so scared
I’d bet abuse in his past. Not that it’s an excuse, but it’s so much easier to follow the path you know. I grew up in it and decided to break the cycle. I only learned much later that my step father was abused as well. My sister hasn’t dealt with it. She’s always angry. She’s always yelling. She’ll argue instead of deescalate. I did it at first, but I realized I was perpetuating exactly what I didn’t want to. I was making myself depressed and physically sick for days after an argument. Luckily, I realized it pretty quickly.
Abuse and trauma are a blanket in a war zone. The war zone (the world around you) is chaotic and unpredictable. Abuse and trauma is familiar. You know it. You know it isn’t safe, but you know what to expect. So you stick with it. Leaving that is hard. You have to leave the warm blanket behind. Trudge through the unknown chaos of that war zone, and find your way out. You want to go back to that blanket. To the predictable. The path out isn’t even totally for you, and you know it. It’s for the next generation.
I feel bad for his kids. They’re not going to get any type of mental health care until they’re adults. I’d bet that “therapy is for pussys” and “Only women cry” is his household motto.
My son’s girlfriend is in the same predicament. Her step father is military. Her mom is a detective. Her step is the abuser. Her mom lets it happen. She’s 18 and graduates this year. Yet they read every social media message. They track her on her phone through an app. They yelled at her to get a job, or she couldn’t play softball. They read all of her bank statements and grill her on what she spends of her own money. Then, he turned around a month later and said she needs to spend her time off filling out scholarships. She’s their full time babysitter to her sisters, who are treated well by step father because they’re his own legit kids.
My son is so frustrated because he doesn’t know how to help. I’ve been helping coach him on how best to help and be there for her. I do what I can to communicate that she’s a good person. They can’t read IG photos so I’m constantly sending funny faces back and forth with her. She’ll come here with him for lunch as well and I’ll give her a hug when I sense she needs it.
We’ve offered up our home if she wants to move out. She won’t, and I understand it, she’s stuck a bit, but it’s there. They’re moving after she graduates. She said she’s not going to visit them on holidays. She’s welcome here. I’d bet they’ll wonder why she doesn’t visit. People like that never understand why. She’s going to have to get her own car ASAP too. They’re using that as leverage over her. I told her we’d help as much as we can. Even if it means we co sign.
I see this behavior in the military a lot, and I think it’s because it attracts people that don’t see a way out. Even if they think it is for altruistic reasons as a kid, the root cause is just wanting out of the home. Out of that situation. It isn’t until years later that they truly, hopefully, realize why they went in. Many won’t though.
Thoughtful answer
Lots of tragedy there. Wishing happiness toward you and your son’s girlfriend
Just say no to unnecessarily censored posts
Maybe it was posted to Reddit and then taken here?
Either way, thank you for your service, soldier!
and miss out on all the activity of like 10 free comments?
You suck.
Thank you, self censorship drives me up the wall.
“Dick Wolf”
Is this the part where I say “hello”, or…
Dire Dick Wolf
Lies! He’s just a regular wolf!
Now do “Speed Weed”.
“You can’t say that on television!!”
“I have some real problems with this SVU script. We can’t say ‘dick wolf’ on TV!”
Pretty much the worst thing about The Wire is that I can’t get past cops giving a shit about anything
That’s an odd take, since I think the show makes it pretty clear that it is a tiny minority of cops which actually gives a shit, and of those and even tinier minority are actually capable at their jobs and they are getting hassled about it from every senior officer all the while.
What? Have you actually seen the show? Most of the cops are assholes, especially up the chain of command who just want to make themselves look good. Several examples of them just wanting to close the case without caring about the truth.
It’s actually one of the reasons why I love the show so much. Even the “good cops” have their own issues to deal with.
ACAB every day but don’t you dare come for Mariska Hargitay. 1) we all know SVU is fiction (that’s why they say it every episode), and most of us are aware it’s mostly fantasy and also 2) svu often points out the shortcomings of other non-them svu teams and the NYPD in general.
Mariska is a gem irl. Let me enjoy my fantasy cop show.
(It has to be said: this is a tongue-in-cheek comment and I understand the point that was being made in the meme, I just really love svu ok.)
That’s her name??
Sounds like sea food in Spanish: mariscos
Okay but, hear me out—are we not going to look back one day and feel that it was really fucking weird that we had a cop show dedicated entirely to rape? Maybe I’m thinking about it all wrong but that seems exploitative in a weirdly fetishistic way
The fans of it are the ones who are weird to me–I’ve never wanted to watch a single episode of that shit.
You all showed them there’s a market for it, don’t call them weird for giving you all what you all wanted, lol.
It is a bit odd.
I like “The Rookie”.
But all these cops obsessing over the letter of the law, keeping each other in line, caring about perp’s life choices and victim’s problems…
This is fantasy. Might as well be Lord of the Rings.
I used to like The Rookie, but honestly after George Floyd I just couldn’t stomach any propaganda cop shows anymore.
Those motherfucker CHOCKED the man to death while smiling.
The show tried to pay lip service to it but honestly nothing they could do could possibly be enough.
This happened to me with Brooklyn 99, than even for a cop show is kinda woke.
Or the Dota show, that V, who has been oppressed by the police all her life became a cop officer on the first episode of the second season.
99 got extra woke in the last season. I thought they handled it well.
They address the George Floyd murder head-on. Rosa quits the force because of it. Jake is forced to address how he’s internalized some of those problematic attitudes. If you stopped before the last season, it’s worth giving it another look.
Well yeah, cause the only other way that story could’ve gone was “the OG Black Panthers were right, obviously the good guys and revolution is key” which isn’t a story that you’re allowed to tell.
To be fair, that series pushed that line much more than pretty much anything else I’ve seen on TV, but they did Ekko so dirty.
Might as well be Lord of the Rings.
The longer I live, the more real LOTR seems.
Pining for the well-defined good and evil; the inherent goodness even in some misguided heroes, the honor, bonding, and integrity of the protagonists, despite trial and tragedy. Our characters all striving for a better world despite any personal cost. Something missing these days.
It’s easy to wish for that. But also easy to forget that it was terrible war, both the fantasy one and the one Tolkien himself participated in, that brought about such a grand story. It is real, to an extent.
But also easy to forget that it was terrible war, both the fantasy one and the one Tolkien himself participated in, that brought about such a grand story. It is real, to an extent.
It doesn’t seem easy to forget for me - I mean, if someone’s brain just decides to ignore what “smell of death” means, or what “hewn dead bodies” look like, or the moments where besiegers of Minas Tirith use Osgiliath defenders’ heads as projectiles, or how small the events there are compared to the way idiots think of wars, and still how hard for their participants, - then maybe.
And about honor and integrity - people put in a hard place behave this way more often than it would seem. Being in such a situation is a filter itself.
It’s not all that unrealistic, there are good and evil in real life too. Sometimes with a contrast bigger than usual even for Tolkien.
It was real for them (as in Tolkien’s experience, which was translated into the fictional story).
Not us.
We read the stories and forget how horrible war can be, and unless we have actually experienced those horrors, our understanding is only intellectual.
I agree.
But that would be everything written, and also when put in situations very moderately reminiscing such, I had associations with LOTR from my childhood where I didn’t have any such experience. Tolkien says literally many thoughts people have when encountering horrors.
That’s what makes a good writer and story.
I cannot argue one way or the other if you’re going to simply take the faintest references and call everything the same.
Aragon led Gollum on a forced march without food or drink; Gandalf threatened him with torture. Even the most “good” of the good guys have moral failings in LotR.
Yes, they did. But they weren’t world-ending failings. They didn’t to enrich themselves. They didn’t seek advantage. And objectively they should’ve either killed Gollum or jailed him rather than this back-and-forth frenemy/enemy he became. Gollum certainly tried to do plenty of damage himself, but today we’d have to view him as having a mental illness so that’s different faming than just the story written in the last century.
But, this is fiction, and how the story and characters were written.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
-John Rogers
One night I walked home from work, in my work uniform, and some old guy with a personalized license plate asked me if I wanted to get coffee, at 9 pm. I was like, um no, and you’re weird, and then I went home and thought about it and decided to report it, wasn’t that long after the Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo serial killings of young girls in my city. The cop who showed up to take my statement asked me what I had been wearing, and then called me back to tell me he was just a lonely old guy looking for someone to talk to. Like who on Betty White’s green earth pulls over to try and convince a stranger to get into their car at 9 pm, a young woman many decades your junior, and thinks that’s normal? Fucking cops.
I think this is missing the key ingredient: is the victim white and attractive?
they leveled up
Feck off, censors.
The internet isn’t for babies, we can take words.
you’ve never seen a 2-year-old on a tablet. frightening stuff.
You mean fuck off?
Don’t you fucking swear, my dad fucking yells at me otherwise.
Depends if Obinice is Irish.
Fair
I posted this on FB today and my friend that works in the domestic violence shelter system told me she’ll tell me over coffee how many cops show up to harass women staying at the shelter.
Thank you for anticipating the words that I cannot stomach with my weak-ass feelings and censoring them for me. You’re my hero. you cunt.
Get upvoted lil bro
Why is there self-censorship on the word “rape”?
Entirely warranted fear of overbearing content moderation on corporate social media.
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I’ve never seen any evidence that it’s actually warranted and not just a superstitious offering to the algorithm
I guess that’s one of the reasons I don’t use corpo social media, goddamn. Use the words you need to, for fucks sake.
Sadly it’s a great way to get your post hidden or deleted. I hate it too.
Capital is taking away our ability to speak to power about societal problems.
It’s not a silly little thing, it’s a real problem that we need to address. Nearly a quarter of the US adult population is functionally illiterate. They are taking our power to communicate away slowly, little bits at a time. They start with the big, heavy topics that make people upset, the topics that might make people rally together and push back against the system. Rape? Murder? Nazis? Suicide? No no no, those aren’t acceptable so we don’t say that. Monkey see no evil, say no evil, hear no evil. Be quiet and buy your new phone and buy your celebrity energy drinks.
Tune in tomorrow to see what the next banned ideas are.
Grab your rake and shovel and work those fields, serf.
Hey, it’s not always like that. Now they can also report the victims to ICE, which makes the problem go away much faster.
Those cop shows also glorify cops who breaks rules and trample rights as good cops who do what they need to do to solve a crime. It leads to people excusing abuse by cops in the real world
Love how Brooklyn 99 addresses that. Peralta is basically a caricature of the “loose cannon that gets results” cop, but even he doesn’t cross the line when it comes to illegally obtaining evidence.
I encourage everyone to watch Skip Intro’s series on Copaganda: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2ac8vr2QyTdlWwd8OQIc1it6bAfMGPPC (also available on Nebula)
And to do so on Nebula if you have a subscription.
