No need to name names or sources.

Mine has to be some dude that insisted that advertising is a “30,000 year old technology”

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    That using 100% free and open source software is more important than actually getting your work done.

    In a thread about Affinity Photo where someone insisted that we should all use gimp and just not edit photos if gimp doesn’t have the features we need rather than asking Serif to port their software to Linux.

    Also in several threads about migrating from Windows to Linux where every missing or complicated feature was brushed away with “just get used to not being able to do it, even if it’s critical to your workflow”.

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      I’m lucky in my job that most of my work can be done on Linux with FOSS software. But I would use Windows if this weren’t the case, and I know for some colleagues who need to work with specific proprietary software, there aren’t that many other options available, and its far easier for them to just use Windows (or perhaps macOS if they have the option).

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      That is 10,000% people who don’t do creative work especially professionally. I am fine with gimp and darktable versus anything Adobe/paid but I also barely use them lol. I would be back off Linux in a heartbeat if I honestly couldn’t use something I needed even though I prefer it.

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        Medical work, too. Several exam machines only work with Windows. I’ve heard once that “wine’s pretty good nowadays”, which completely ignores the detail that it isn’t tested with said equipment and its drivers.

        Anything related to engineering, whether civil or mechanical, also goes with either Windows or Mac, because the free CAD options don’t hold a candle to AutoCAD and others.

        Lastly, there’s no FOSS alternative to completely replace Microsoft Active Directory, so offices where 90% of the work is done on the web browser won’t bother because they’ll be losing control over individual machines.

        There’s so much focus on “me” and “freedom” that they often forget there’s a whole damn world of different needs around them.

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          I agree with this, outside of bs windows throws if you change the motherboard. Desktop Linux stability reminds me of Windows 7 levels of OS stability. Great for most, not for mission critical.

          With that said i feel you are being overtly critical to FOSS CAD software. I use FreeCAD in a professional setting and it is extremely stable, and for my use case it is as capable with no missing features. Yes the software isn’t beginner friendly, but I honestly found it made my designs more accurate since it had more constraints for sketches.

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            What were you using BEFORE FreeCAD if it has MORE sketch constraints?? Man, I found it so limiting compared to NX. Especially the sketching. And surfacing appeared to be basically nonexistent. Maybe I’m too spoiled with NX, but I dont think I could function for even a day on FreeCAD. It’s worse than SolidWorks (and I hate SolidWorks). I really, really wanted to like it. I even gave it a second chance when 1.0 dropped.

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                Ah, ok. I’ve been using NX since it was still Unigraphics, so I am admittedly biased. I haven’t tried any of the newer things like Fusion or Sketchup. Might I ask what industry you use FreeCAD for at a professional level? Just curiosity. I’m automotive interiors tooling, so I’m pretty dependent on strong surfacing tools. Lots of A-surface stuff.

                Also, how would you model this up in FreeCAD? This took me about 15 minutes in NX, with one sketch and some offset curves. I was making a 3D printed tag for my daughter.

                I tried for over two hours in FreeCAD, but only got this far. I could not extrude individual bodies from one sketch, I had to make separate sketches for each shape. Offset curves didn’t appear to be a thing, and I couldn’t find any form of synchronous modeling tools. So, making those raised outlines was a whole other challenge. I ended up having to extrude a sheet taller than the main body, then thicken it. I couldn’t figure out how to select face edges for use in other commands, either. I ended up giving up.

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                  I use freecad for mainly functional 3D Prints, many of which I sell on Etsy and eBay. You can see my designs here: https://www.printables.com/@16bitvirtual/models

                  As for how to do yourbunny. For the most part, you are falling into the biggest hurdle for FreeCAD. FreeCAD has constructing geometry which cannot interfere with the model. But it also means that if you aren’t very specific with your design it will fail. For example with the Bunny you need to define in your sketch what you’d like to pad or pocket out.

                  Then you work on adding details

                  The constructor lines are why I love FreeCAD since in other software I had to be very specific on what I can add without voids being accidentally added into my model.

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          CAD options also flow over to the whole GPU debate as well. Yes, Nvidia’s company practices are awful. Yes, I’d love to have more options. But this doesn’t change that most of the heavyweight CAD options out there don’t play well with non-Nvidia GPUs.

          I’d love it if there were FOSS / GPU-agnostic CAD options. But until then, focusing on what works is important, y’know?

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          I could go on for days about the problems with medical devices. I write software for one of those at my day job and as much as our team would love to port the software to something other than Windows, that would be a logistical nightmare.

          The thunderbolt connection alone can break because of a thousand factors, even on the exact combination of hardware and operating system it was tested with. Processing of medical images is often very GPU-heavy which gives us the same problems as with CAD software.

          Even if you get all the technical problems out of the way, medical devices need to be certified before you’re allowed to use them for diagnostics. This often includes an exact specification of the platform you run the software on. If you just take something that’s certified for “Windows 10 between 20H2 and 22H2, Intel or AMD CPU, device driver version 8.1.23” and try to run it on Wine, I would expect the American FDA, German TÜV and Chinese NMPA to fight over who gets to kick your door in first. It might be possible to get a certification for a Linux version but probably only for one specific combination of distribution, display server and desktop environment.

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      It’s always good to use FOSS where possible.

      If it isn’t possible for you, then don’t. Perhaps try advocating for the FOSS alternatives to be better and drive up competition, forcing the software you do use to innovate.

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    One that I read on Mastodon:

    Every bad thing about commercial software is the programmers’ fault. Even if it was something that management decided and the programmer fought against it and lost. They claimed you should rather risk losing your job than accepting an inconvenience for your user. Weird take but okay. Then they started comparing software engineers to soldiers “just following orders” during the holocaust. That’s where I blocked them. Cherry on top: they have “if you want to hire me as a software engineer, message me” in their bio. I wonder why nobody wants to hire them…

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    That all small business owners are thieves and out to scam their customers - This was part of someone’s argument defending big box stores.

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      I mean I kind of assume all business owners are, though small business owners don’t have that shit baked in like megacorps.

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      Wow, are we the baddies? This guy must have a really bad time in the Linux communities.

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        Kinda unironically: yes.

        Linux is great for some use cases and at least decent for most others but what I’ve experienced in some Linux communities made me understand why people don’t feel welcome. In a thread literally titled “Help me like desktop Linux” that listed a few things I was struggling with, I got hit with a bunch of “you’re an idiot for not using the exact same distro that I like”, “works on my machine” and “you want the wrong things”. Even as someone who already had over a decade of Linux server experience, that almost made me turn around and walk away.

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          I’m sorry you had that experience.

          For some reason some Linux users are strict and preachy about it instead of treating it like a piece of software/environment just like any other.

          Aside from that, it’s just good practice to be kind to others and explain things to new (and not new) users in a reasonable way.

          Hopefully you find a solution that works for you (for whatever OS you choose).

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          Yes, that’s true, sometimes bug research pointed me to the arch Linux forums, and I was like: never ever I post one of my noob questions there. But that’s not all. Its just one point of view.

          The skill level differences with Linux are huge. And people that wrote great wikis are sometimes frustrated if they get asked things they already explained elsewhere.

          Linux is confusing for beginners, never forget this fact and be kind.

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      There are legitimate reasons not not want to use or not be able to use Linux.

      Calling the very real privacy issues presented by windows as a “conspiracy theory” is not one of them.

      Also these people are delusional. They don’t understand why the steam deck is popular because quote “the main appeal of PC Gaming is modding and using a Keyboard and Mouse.” Which is a bold claim because I thought the point was having better control over what you play instead of hoping Microsoft, Nintendo, and PlayStation release those games on chosen console.

      Do these people have an idea how many Stardew Valley Clones I can play on PC that will never touch an Xbox?

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    I once got accused of having a corporate shill account after explaining how coupons work.

    Man was whingeing about paying full price for Domino’s and got pissed at me when I pointed out they didn’t use the 2 for 7 deal that takes up half their homepage.

    Some people just can’t admit they fucked up XD

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      You can’t say you like literally any product on the internet otherwise people call you a corporate shill. It’s frustrating because people sometimes like things…that’s just the nature of life in general. Sometimes you like something that was made by a company and not just already existing in nature…

      Reminds me though…I recently got called a “Russian bot” by someone on Lemmy recently. I was super confused because the content of the conversation had nothing to do with Russia or the war or Russian viewpoints or anything. It was so out of left field that I had no idea what they were talking about.

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    One of the first argument I’ve got myself into was returning the shopping cart to the designated spot. This person was replying to like 5 people at once justifying why they don’t always return the cart, because the weather is hot and the corral is far, etc. while we disapproved.

    Got some reddit argument PTSD from that lol

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      I used to not take my cart in, but I worked at Walmart at the time and pushed carts for them when needed. I didn’t mind doing it all, and didn’t care where anyone left their carts. Now that I’ve been at a better job for a while I put them up. Don’t want to be out of touch with Cary pushing.

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      The shopping cart argument is a great place to start managing the human race. And I don’t mean in a binary manner - let’s just start with those who never bother returning the cart. To a startlingly large majority, they tend to demonstrate traits that are wholly incompatible with a polite and empathetic society.

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      I didn’t think not returning a trolly was something worth defending 😂.

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        The only defence is “I’m a dickwad”. And I’d accept that if they owned it and we could verbally abuse them for being a dick, for only like 10 minutes after every episode.

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          Maybe if you’re severely mobility-impaired, but then you would probably have a device to assist you, so it still shouldn’t happen…

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        They weren’t defending that, the argument was whether someone who doesnt return a trolley is a bad person or not. Some people argued it was a trivial thing that meant nothing either way, some argued it meant they were evil, and some argued in the middle somewhere.

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          it’s a low stakes indicator.

          someone who doesn’t return their cart isn’t automatically a bad person, but rather is more likely to be a bad person than someone who does return their cart.

          people are lazy and in a hurry, so will often not say the full long version, and this applies to many things people often say. People then get “um actually” about it because the short version is technically wrong.

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          Life, which you so nobly serve, comes from destruction, disorder and chaos. Take this empty glass. Here it is, peaceful, serene and boring. But if it is [Pushes glass off table] destroyed…

          Robot cleaners move to clean broken glass

          Look at all these little things. So busy now. Notice how each one is useful. What a lovely ballet ensues, so full of form and color.

          Now, think about all those people that created them. Technicians, engineers, hundreds of people who’ll be able to feed their children tonight so those children can grow up big and strong and have little teeny weeny children of their own, and so on and so forth. Thus, adding to the great chain…of life.

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      Lmao I think I remember that one! Big Cart has a network of Lemmy shills, trust no one. 🕵‍♂️

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      I started an argument like that once. I made a joke about how there is literally always at least one person who defends not putting the cart back.

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        Only reason to not put it back is when you don’t wanna fight the homeless person bringing it back for you to keep the deposit coin.

        Or when you’re drunk, going downhill with friends, crash and total it and take it home to make a grill out of it.

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    Someone was trying to say the Van Halen’s song “Jump” was about suicide. Despite being presented with an interview with David Lee Roth (who wrote the song) explaining what the song was about. Still think about that. Idk why. Maybe because it was like one of those conversations you have with an edgy emo kid in highschool and realize they are full of shit. Some weird nostalgia I guess

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      It is a song influenced by seeing a report about a suicidal jumper, but repurposing the idea into a positive one. Basically, it is saying that instead of a suicide jump someone should take a leap of faith and improve things.

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      People fixate on certain lyrics and kinda ignore the rest of the song.

      I knew someone who swore “Hallelujah” by Leonard Cohen was a dirty song because two lines could be interpreted as innuendo.

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        “Hallelujah” is a song about sex — but it’s not dirty sex, it’s holy sex.

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        “Hallelujah” has an overt reference to the story of David & Bathsheba in the Bible, which is a story about a king watching a woman bathe and then sending her husband into an unwinnable battle so he could steal her from him.

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      Please don’t choke people during sex even consenting people. If you need the sensation just put your hands on their collarbone and don’t actually cut off their windpipe.

      After reading some kink books that give detailed instructions about how to suspend people, to give people piecing, fake cutting people as well as convince your sub that you have a loaded gun in their mouth with the disclaimer about how dangerous choking is really puts in perspective. There are tools to safely cut off air supply don’t choke someone

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      Hmmmm.

      So what does it mean if I enjoy practicing hojojutsu on my consensually non-consenting partner…?

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        if done properly with good technique it’s not that risky. you need to trust your partner, have good communication (including both verbal and nonverbal systems of consent), and have the awareness to monitor your partner’s physical state while doing the deed.

        breathplay is edgeplay but imo it’s one of the safer forms of edgeplay

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        Just ask David Carradine. Although, I’m still not convinced it was suicide.

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      I fucking hate this.

      Especially when they basically self-hypnosis themselves into the placebo affect and swear that their magic powdered crystal enema can fix everything.

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        Yes, but those are dirty, brutish science rocks. Not special coloured crystals with the powers of emotional healing™, protection against negative auras™ or unseen life™, and the power to give a room or a house a positive atmosphere™.

        You know, the kind that those doctors (who totally know nothing at all!) don’t want you to know about because it’ll put them out of business.

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          Replace them with colored glass for a week and see if anything happens. Then you can publish your results in Crystals Weekly if they work, or one of the science ones if they don’t.

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          I use very nice quartz in my daily life, and if they would have cracks or so my day would definitely be ruined

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          Don’t forget “promoting wellness”.

          I appreciate that we’re past the days when they could make specific claims and get away with it, though.

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    That you should always keep your graphics card updated to the latest drivers, especially Nvidia

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      That’s not that ridiculous. If you’re frequently playing new games at launch (probably a bad idea for different reasons), then latest drivers often contain optimizations and fixes for specific games.

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      Windows or linux?

      On linux I know that could cause lots of issues.

      On windows I’m not aware of any reason not to keep the graphic drivers updated with nvidia.

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      lol, I remember when I started playing No Man’s Sky, I made a post on reddit pointing out that more recent nvidia drivers fucked up the game’s framerate big time, like, if I was standing still and moved the mouse around, the framerate would tank. With a previous driver (416 or older), the whole game was butter smooth. I kept playing with that driver until the game had an update that forced you to have newer drivers. Performance was still shit.

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        I think there’s a limited number of optimizations that can be made and eventually some settings will conflict the old with the new at a fundamental level. And support for older or weaker hardware tends to get tossed to the wayside because it’s likely not the main money maker for them.

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      I do out of habit and 99% of the time it has zero downsides and occasional positives. It only borked a game and required rolling back one time that I can remember.

      I have a friend who is far more careful about doing their updates because they have frequent problems. Not sure why we have such different experiences.

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        Usually it’s hardware difference and compatibility between components. Small pieces with subtle variations and imperfect manufacturing often create unpredictable instability.

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      “Installing my driver” is a cultural relic from old Windows days where it wasn’t automatic; one needed a CD/Floppy or whatever to get your printer or ATI card working. It was good practice. Hence tons of “driver cleaner/updater” kind of shovelware exists to capitalize on that mindset.

      …These days, Windows update (or the Arch/CachyOS package repos in my case) auto-update all my hardware with zero fuss. IDK why so many stray from that, unless they encounter a bug that was specifically fixed in an update.

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        Whatever driver Windows hands you for your nVidia/AMD card is likely to be hilariously out of date. If the driver it gives you is the one with the bug that’s bugging you, you won’t have a choice.

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    Any time any user comments the word “based” to the most normal and reasonable shit ever.
    Based has lost all meaning.

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      I took the most diarrhoeal of diarrhoeal shits this morning. I’d like to see you make this political.

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        Easy! Why do you think it happened? Inadequate food regulation? Underfunded healthcare? Insufficient regulation of pollutants that can impact health and cause chronic disease?

        I don’t know your individual circumstances, but given the state of the world right now, I’d bet it’s a combination of all three.