Nearly everything I’ve learned in my life is thanks to the internet but sure. I guess I get the point
You have to teach people to teach themselves though. Just because someone has access to a book doesn’t mean they’ll read it.
Is logical thought teachable though? You can read all the books, but if you can’t correlate the information, does it matter? And I should say it that way, but more along the lines of two people can read the same set of literature and come to two different conclusions, and somehow we determine one of those conclusions to be right.
Is logical thought teachable though?
I should definitely think so. I would that history would show that, as well. Ideas and suspicion/critical thinking seem like they can possibly be inherent, but they could definitely use some help/a boost in some individuals where it seems to lie dormant. 😅 And the earlier in life we awaken these abstract ideas and thoughts that not everything you see and hear is truth, the more natural it will become. Just like anything else you want to teach your children. And teaching people to teach themselves is one thing I think is omitted in school. Actively practicing and explicitly focusing on how to effectively teach yourself something. Studying Study Techniques. It’s an important skill.
You can’t teach a fish to fly, and you can’t teach a republican to think critically.
I think we just have to accept that reading (critically) isn’t for everybody. There’s just people who prefer to talk out of their asses.
And we’ll have to find a way to live with that.
I think you can teach anyone anything as long as they’re earnestly open to learning it. That’s what I choose to believe.
Lack of education and critical thinking. Which people thought was because of the lack of available access to information. Yup, turns out even with access to knowledge people still wont bother to educate themselves.
Now they are blaming educators because they are voluntarily ignorant, we lead the horse to water but we cant make them drink…doesn’t help when they want to call educators racists for trying to encourage a postive self image or dare I utter the taboo phrase, social awareness…
People don’t want to be corrected, they want to be validated.
You are right.
You’re right about them being right.
And you’re wrong, do your research
Uhht
People want to be correct.
For some that means never being questioned. For some, it means always questioning themselves.
Um, actually, people don’t want to be told they’re incorrect whether directly or indirectly.
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Bro’s saying this as if written and spoken language didn’t count as information before LMAO.
The only difference now is the bandwidth but the information was there
Assuming all the information on the internet was true, this could have been reevaluated.
But in today’s world unfortunately internet is more fabricated information than real information
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Admittedly they probably didn’t expect an enormous, sophisticated, and well-coordinated effort to promote ignorance and push so much misinformation so as to effectively muddy the waters of that information either though.
That’s basically the plot of brave new world.
where’s the soma?
It’s called social media.
SOcial Media Addiction (SOMA)
Oh you’ve seen Seikon No Qwaser too?
well yeah but probably they should have expected it …
I always knew that it was due to christianity
No I’m in my 20s.
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And without well-rounded education, which is not perfect like liberal arts we lack the ability to digest information critically. I mean you could tell people about Edward Bernays or say Alan Dulles or the evils of capitalism/imperialism and how the rich objectify us and they’ll still sit there eating their ice cream at Disneyland drooling in their hedonistic stupor… Maybe really this is my own personal anxiety and as time progresses the colective subconscious will eventually awaken into a wrathful hurricane of non-discriminative re-Alignment… As we try to manage these transitions, We become a nihilistic and we lean into it and just allow nature to take its course. For justice is always served, not in my time, not in my interest. Thank gawd, all men die.We are an anti-social society that rewards anti-social behavior. I just think about Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein. We poison the well we drink from and without self-awareness, curiosity kills the cat… Superposition can eat my ass. And it could be described as the Imperial Boomerang or in the military communities, like intelligence, it’s called blowback. I think we live in the era of the Limp Dick, the self-fulfilling prophecy, the exponential feedback loop on a road to nowhere with tracks coming to an end… And peoples the likes of Elon Musk, who are high on ketamine or any other chemical., are sitting there, staring at themselves in the mirror. As if it’s their world and we’re just living in it. As if they are somehow not a part of the collective. The Singularity is just our collective ego focused on just a few ambitious fools and artificial intelligence is our collective efforts mirrored back to ourselves with the wizard of Oz turning the dial. There is no wonder that this “man” edong breeds like a rat he knows what he is doing is wrong, but he just can’t help himself… It makes sense that the population is declining, and that’s a good thing. It shows that the people are actually somewhat waking up at least subconsciously. Elon is no overman… But a reprobate and a rapist… Relative, none of us have free will. But it doesn’t justify not focusing on maintaining ones own individual autonomy. I don’t tell my immune system what to do. I don’t tell my lungs to breathe. The collective self needs these things to happen in order for me (ego) to exist. It’s kind of like a paradox, but a paradox is just… We are blinded to the truths of reality, somewhere down the causational chain, there is still some form of binary. We just can’t see it… I’m not talking about being passive, and I’m not talking about not playing your part in any revolutionary action. I’m just saying, know, your place in the natural hierarchy and exhibit or execute your nature. When I see incredibly anti-social and destructive behavior in our society, I don’t cry out to gawd. I know why things happen the way they do. Possibly we’ve gone past the point of no return. We spit in the face of the natural hierarchy for so long. We cut down trees and wipe our ass. Mark Fisher killed himself because he was anxious and he didn’t want to watch the World Burn. But me? I’m okay with it. I’m curious to see what will happen. I do know the piglets, the imperial piglets eventually, either them or their children will face consequences. Justice is always served. I don’t want what the rich man has. I think the rich man is lazy, tacky and gross. I like bottom feeders and beneficial parasites. No War but the Class War.
Chapter 57 of the Tao Te Ching
Rule a nation with justice. Wage war with surprise moves. Become master of the universe without striving. How do I know that this is so? Because of this!
The more laws and restrictions there are, The poorer people become. The sharper men’s weapons, The more trouble in the land. The more ingenious and clever men are, The more strange things happen. The more rules and regulations, The more thieves and robbers.
Therefore the sage says: I take no action and people are reformed. I enjoy peace and people become honest. I do nothing and people become rich. I have no desires and people return to the good and simple life.
"You’re not just a regular moron, you were DESIGNED to be a moron. " - Portal 2
Probably the darkest truth - modern moronity is generally by design, not by misfortune.
I don’t particularly remember many people saying that. I think they were all up their asses about iq.
Ah, yes, that all meaning number that represents your ability to exceed at very specific and biased tasks. Love it
I don’t think they’re too bad, but than again I did score 1st.
The problem, I’d say, is that they measure primarily geometric and rational reasoning ability.
But in practice, you need much more than that. You need empathy, a good intuition for nature, life experience, human connections, extensive education, and the right environment to use these abilities. None of which is easy to measure.
There was a lot of talk about how being able to access any information would drastically increase the average knowledge base, which could possibly increase IQ.
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“You can’t deny science when you have a radio made by science and see all the electronic”
Turns out, once radios are complex enough, you don’t see the electronic anymore
Or completely glued together and you get a cease and desist when you start tinkering with it.
C&Ds make great firestarters.
We lost something big with the transition to digital, and that’s DIY hardware built entirely from discrete components.
Nowadays, everything uses a microcontroller.
There was a sweet spot when computers were actually made out of transistors.
Nowadays, they’re all made by arcane magic.
And to follow up on that:
;D
Sufficiently Advanced Technology.
i actually interpret it different. it’s not about being too complicated.
it’s about the fact that you can’t fundamentally prove that physics behaves in a certain way. You can only observe it. And you can hope and pray that god doesn’t fundamentally change the laws of the universe tomorrow. So, in some sense, it’s magic. Also it’s kinda weird in some way that the universe works the way it does. It’s kinda just a random expression of divine thought, or a miracle, idk what you call it, but some call it magic.
Fucking magnets, how do they work?
Having access to information doesn’t help people who can’t read or don’t have the ability to comprehend what they’re reading.
it’s not just reading skills, it’s also ability to cross-correlate information to other information and perform consistency checks.
I grew up before the Internet was mainstream and I don’t remember this. We all had access to basically the same information and some of us still had worse or better ideas than our peers. Access was always only one part of the equation; beyond that, you need the information to be useful and accurate (big problem on the Internet), you need the desire to engage with that information, the ability to process and understand it correctly, the ability to discern when factual information is being cherry-picked or otherwise used in misleading ways …
If you trip over on any of those points or whatever else I’ve forgotten to mention, you come out the other end with bad information, access be damned.
The information was harder to access because it wasn’t available on demand. If you had a question about how something works in the evening it’s not as if you could go to the library to get the answer…
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It is not information but the fact the collective don’t own the means of information. The collective will and free thought is restrained. The collective will manifest a violent subconscious rage they will need to briedle but eventually they will get bucked as they lose the reins. Nature always wins! A non discriminate hurricane of a long time coming will reset and aligne what was once askew. Justice is coming the meek shall inherit the world. No war but the class war. The rich will hide in their bunkers, breed with and eat their children. We think tactical nukes will prevent the escalation ladder but even at the top they fight amongst themselves. Celebrate their failures.
