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Arabs, so menacing
Well, Al Qaeda is our ally now, they even got them to wear nice suits!
Wow, an example where the AI slop copy is _less_of a racist caricature than the original.
There’s always something new under the sun, I guess.
I can’t tell which is more racist
Point to the racism in the graphic?
Pretend this was a depiction of a Jew
Then it’d be a charicature of a Jew? Only Israeli Zionists call everything antisemitic. You’re preaching to the wrong choir.
No, only Zionist try to associate Antisemitism with anti Zionism. This character is an antisemitic depiction of a “large nosed Semetic person”. Which historically includes Arabs. A character that has existed long before Israel or even Nazi Germany. It is a character used to “otherize” these peoples and depict them as “controlling and manipulating”.
And this depiction of the large nosed evil looking character “controlling” western leadship has historically been used to depict Arab Muslims and Arab Jews alike. We associate it’s use primarily with Jewish people because of the history of the Holocaust; which is why I was making that point. Most people understand this is racist if it’s a depiction of a Jewish person but ignore it’s racism when used to depict Arabs.
This comic is essentially using these same stereotypes of “Jews control the world” but applying it to Arab states.
There is criticism to be made of Trumps corrupt dealings with foreign nations for his own profit. But this comic is not doing that. This comic is depicting the foreign states with the same evil looking “controlling” character and I would criticize it’s racism if it was being used to depict Jews or Arabs alike.
Many of the same stereotypes used historically against Jews are being used to “otherize” Arabs today. As this is the current “acceptable” racism in the West.
If you are anti Zionist you should be able to understand this.
lol no. The charicature is not antisemetic, you simpleton.
Google: Semitic People
Semitic people or Semites is a term for an ethnic, cultural or racial group associated with people of the Middle East and the Horn of Africa, including Akkadians, Arabs, Arameans, Canaanites (Jews, Phoenicians, etc.) and Habesha peoples.
Google: “Racist Puppet Master Cartoon” and click images. You’ll see a lot of the same type of a large nosed character “controlling” western leadership. Most famously this one.
You’re the simpleton. You don’t understand history or what words mean. This is just a non Jewish “Semitic” person being drawn in the same racist way that has been done in the past. The same type of otherization and racism is still being used today. Antisemitism against Arabs is just accepted by our society unfortunately.
Simpleton.
You’re failing so hard to understand a comic, yet prefer to namecall. Hilarious.
The first one for sure.
Anti-Arab racism is so normalized that you got downvoted for pointing it out
It’s a charicature. If your charicature bares no stereotypes, it’s not a charicature… Learn how art works before you label everything racist…
Why didn’t they do the same with Trump and made him like a racist stereotype of a white person? Why is the Arab holding Trump not more like the Emir of Qatar who is the intended target and instead purposefully ambiguous and anonymous? The red shemagh isn’t even something commonly worn in Qatar and it is more common in Saudi Arabia. The intention is anti-Arab racism but you are either accepting of it or insensitive to it, proving the point that it is normalized.
a racist stereotype of a white person
They did, he is clearly identifiable as Trump.
…Oh, you didn’t say “a stereotype of a racist white person”
Hm neither one looks particularly like Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani, and the headdress style is Saudi Arabian in both.
Interesting. AI cannot make proper caricatures of people’s faces apparently.
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I got the labels right.
You can clearly see that all the AI can do is represent someone’s face in a hand drawn cartoon style. It cannot exaggerate features to make it a caricature like the true artist did.
Im so confused about people saying they prefer the ai one. Just to double triple check that were all on the same page here, the ai one is the bottom one, right??
I think the bottom one is extremely boring and the top one looks sick af.
I thought AI was the top one. I actually prefer the AI one in this case. in the first one the guy’s face and nose is square and the the drawing is shitty. the second is clear and not distracting
God forbid an artist ever have style and good control of light. The AI one is plain boring, and has tons of shading errors. The original artists has a cool aesthetic, with lots of detail, vibrant colors and the facial expression looking at the viewer in smugness communicates a lot more than the AI one. So does the orange baby facial expression. It is all more lively and actually translates human emotion that says something about the situation. The AI one is basic and dull in comparison. So, anyways, media literacy…
Yesyesyesyesyes!
So you’re saying the first is stylized and the second is bland. We agree.
I think they are both cool 🤷♂️
What, do you not hate everything and everyone all the time like the cool kids?
The AI one is generic and easier to read. Some people like that 🤷♂️
I’m with you. The top one is a unique style, while the bottom one is about as generic as it gets, not to mention it has that damn yellowed background AI always uses for comics.
AI can reproduce any style convincingly.
It can with proper prompts, but all we ever see is the generic style shown here.
Both are kind of racist as fuck right? Relying on anti-arabic stereotypes to try to inflame fear about this. The Qatari jet is a major problem but it’s not because some sinister Arab is secretly pulling the strings, it’s because foreign governments can buy influence.
It’s the same thing… that “sinister Arab” is the foreign government buying influence, at least in the context of this plane.
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This is Lemmy trying to decide which racist picture they like better
LMAO then you guys later complain about racism hahahsj
A copy of a racist image is still a copy, and still racist. I don’t see the conflict.
Oh lol I scroll ed some more and there actually are people critiquing over which one they prefer
I’m seeing this shitty AI style with the thick lines everywhere. It triggers a deep rage in my lizard brain like Corporate Memphis does but it’s much worse
When I was studying art in college there was like rules and I forget it was either design class or painting or something but there’s like rules to this stuff and I wish I remembered and I’m gonna try to remember but there’s like a standard like this is already set in stone the tech bros have destroyed everything and people just are unaware that there are already established guidelines i betcha inside of super snooty, pitooty, art critic circles, they would be able to answer my question very quickly.
gestalt principles?
What are you rambling about?
Is it that hard to criticize Arab leaders for their politics without being racist about it?
Apparently it is quite hard, the weird thing is I swear it is super easy to do, I just stood in my bathroom and criticized an Arab leader, and then an Israeli leader and in neither case did I resort to racism.
Is it just the fact that I have a massive brain that makes me able to do this?
How is the depiction racist? Th entire purpose is to represent a country/culture… If you think that basal appearances are being racist when it’s literally a charicature, you’re still too stuck in the land of Political Correctness. Stop being a PC thinker.
In fact, I think it’s depicting specifically Saudi royalty, who often show up in public wearing traditional garb, exactly as depicted. So… the comic being accurate makes you call it … racist? Learn some damn media literacy before it’s too late…
While the original certainly has an actual style, i have to say that I have no fucking clue what I’m looking at with the trump face
An ugly as hell style (IMO), but a style nonetheless. The AI feels like a fastfood drawing.
looks like he’s trying to make plane noises
They exaggerated Trump’s characteristic pucker
I wonder how the Borderlands stuff would look of run through ai.
Cheap lazy co-opting fucks.
