cross-posted from: https://hcommons.social/users/adachika192/statuses/114611927184686873
Pro-Israel Figures Threaten to Kill Greta Thunberg Over Gaza Aid Mission - Quds News Network (2025-06-02)
https://qudsnen.co/pro-israel-figures-threaten-to-kill-greta-thunberg-over-gaza-aid-mission/
------>> … Greta Thunberg is facing a wave of violent threats by pro-genocide individuals after joining a Gaza-bound aid flotilla. Pro-Israel figures have called for her death or harm as she sails to challenge Israel’s siege on the devastated territory.
>> Republican Senator Lindsey Graham posted on X: “Hope Greta and her friends can swim!”…
#StopIsrael #StopGenocide #FreedomFlotilla
@palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@a.gup.pe
Good. This means Greta is doing the right thing. Also, it’s about time she’s back in the spotlight, and not some minor footnote when talking about activism events.
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Um, do you really believe they aren’t linked?
I think they’re saying that’s why she lost the spotlight.
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Which are two things capitalism thrives on.
The USSR stopped existing in 1991, by which point climate change wasn’t taken nearly as seriously as it is today. Now that it is taken seriously, capitalism hinders or entirely prevents serious action from being taken because it puts power in the hands of the people who directly benefit from polluting the atmosphere. I mean how many times have you seen “oil lobby kills climate bill” in a headline?
@NoneOfUrBusiness @palestine @technocrit @Tattorack @RowRowRowYourBot @HellsBelle RowRow you glowing goofball smh
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And yet emissions got worse, and capitalism is making advertisements to over consume everything. One is not isolated from the other.
Also, kinda weird to suggest that industrialised economies were not capitalistic…
The real issue is overconsumption
Don’t blame people for what capitalism has done all on its own.
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Because Russia is a capitalist nation, with a healthy mix of Putin’s dictatorship thrown in for good measure.
To deny that, simply because Russia says they operate under socialist gov’t, is to be blind to the truth.
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Sen. Lindsay Graham among the threats
Yeah I feel like years ago someone would have had to step down from their position and quit politics in shame for such a dishonorable statement.
Hoping someone shoots missiles and sinks civilians trying to feed the poor. What a terrible soul.
Man, if the holocaust happened today, turns out most people would actually be on team holocaust. Wait, that’s exactly whats happening…
The Israeli government doesn’t represent everyone who follows the Jewish faith. Jewish practitioners (especially abroad) shouldn’t be assumed to be complicit unless they claim or are shown to be.
That may be; I know nothing. But somebody just posted something like “Jews of lemmy, how is your family on Israel / Gaza?” And most said their families were all very pro Israeli government / Zionist. It sounded a lot like most were complicit.
Here it is, and it is a bit better than when I saw it first, but still…
And most said their families were all very pro Israeli government / Zionist. It sounded a lot like most were complicit.
Impressive research effort!
If you don’t think Israel’s propaganda campaign extends to lemmy I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
What? I’m not saying anything like that. But… if you’re offering, I wouldn’t mind checking out that bridge.
Yeah, no shit.
That is completely true and also unlikely to matter.
I was born 3 decades after the end of WWII. By that point Germany and Austria had gone through great lengths to repudiate the policies of the Nazis. They had paid massive reparations. They had issued numerous official and unofficial apologies. The monuments of the Nazis were torn down in favor of memorials for their victims. That didn’t stop other kids from calling me a Nazi as soon as they found out I spoke German. To this day people are comfortable making Nazi jokes about random Germans (see Oliver Zeidler).
Similarly, we have evidence that the vast majority of sexual assaults are committed by a small number of repeat offenders. That doesn’t stop the repeated mantra of, “Not all men but always a man.”
Many people, particularly in Asia, are offended that the Nazis turned the Swastika into a symbol of hatred. Most people are aware that the Nazis stole the symbol but you really can’t wear one without risking a fight, even if you have the little dots in it.
It doesn’t matter if they should or shouldn’t be assumed to be complicit; they will. People around the world will see the Star of David as a symbol of death and destruction for generations.
No one implied otherwise here, and speaking of here, you’re rather preaching to the choir, don’t you think?
Indeed, while Israel is indeed a Jewish country, it does not represent all Jews, nor do all Jews agree with the way the Israeli behave. Condemning Israel is justified, hating all Jews because of Israel is not.
Who said that the government represent all jews? Governments set up country policies. When we say israel of course we mean israeli governments Israel since it’s creation policies was to oppress, steal land kill and rape palestinians.
The fact that you choose tocsay this bs comment instead of those activists risk to die from israel terrorism show how tou don’t care about those people and the activists
Who said that the government represent all jews?
Said government says it, and jewish non-Israelis are barely heard disputing that. I don’t know if it’s them or the media not giving them equal voice, but one or the other is essentially promoting Netanyahu as spokesperson for everything jewish.
I don’t know if it’s them or the media not giving them equal voice,
then educate yourself and stop speculating
Not most people, most bots
Then why are all the governments collectively punishing people for speaking out? I’m sure there is some astroturfing, but I know a number of people who have some weird opinions on this bcz they get their news from conservative sources.
Most people in the west you mean. Most people in the world are very much against Israel and it’s genocide. I think we forget this.
If you live in the west you can feel alone in caring about the suffering. You just feel alone in the west.
It is a holocaust, essentially.
I don’t think it’s most people. Opinions outside of Israel have largely shifted against it even in the US. Politicians often misrepresent their constituents on this one. At least that’s what it looks like in some polls I’ve seen.
People who vote for nazis/murderers are complicit. Politicians are elected, so the “constituents” do not get to wash the blood from their hands. They are just as guilty.
They’re attempting to astroturf a Holocaust. People aren’t on board but the rich goombas are.
Emphasis on “rich” here. History has shown that genocide is always followed by claiming and then divvying up the resources once held by the displaced/dead. That’s always a rich-man’s game.
genocide is always followed by claiming and then divvying up the resources once held by the displaced/dead.
Like this
A line from Rage Against the Machine’s “Darkness”
They say they’ll kill them off, take their land and go there for vacation
So you’re saying the favor should be returned- reciprocated, even.
I like that idea.
Good thing Luigi’s mansion is common man’s game.
Opinions outside of Israel have largely shifted against it even in the US.
Not in Congress. Not on Wall Street. No where the power congeals. We’re hitting the end-stage of the War on Terror. Western states are not going to be happy until the entire Muslim world is cowed or exterminated.
Of course, but the disconnect growing on this coincides with the disconnect on other important issues and things are eventually coming to a head.
“even the US” bro they have been feeding their people milk and cheese tobacco and lies for decades because it’s how you get rich, it’s literally a country where you can be a politician, decide to give you money, there’s nothing over there that has ever represented what actual people want for 50 years, they’re having a civil class war and the rich won long ago, megacorps decide what the people want
I see you’re also a Climate Town enjoyer. 😄
If there was only one person on earth I could choose to marry it would be that guy
I think the only bad thing about the Holocaust was that Germany did it. Germany threatened established colonial powers. They threatened international order. Therefore the Holocaust is a terrible thing and Germany had to be stopped.
When the good guys do a Holocaust it’s not bad anymore.
Edit: I mean as far as most people use it.
If you do a holocaust then you’re not one of the good guys. It’s pretty simple.
They’re clearly not speaking from their own perspective.
You actually think that? Please tell me it’s just poorly phrased.
I’m sure he only means it as “this is the shitty way the world actually works”. Not that he personally believes it himself.
If that were the case I’d hope they would try to be clearer.
The “@mhague@lemmy.world is a giant asshole” reading is much, much easier than the “@mhague@lemmy.world thinks the world sucks” reading, for me at least. The second reading takes some mental gymnastics for me.
Hoping you’re right, but not convinced. Also giving a lot of side-eye.
i don’t agree with the original comment bc it is pessimistic reductionism but i think you and the people dogging on it severely lack media literacy and critical thinking skills, as kindly as that can be stated.
in what way is the former reading more likely than the latter??
you need to make far more assumptions about the original comment and commenter to come to the conclusion that he made the comment out of some weird bigoted malice than to just accept the obvious reading of it being a commentary on global society’s attitudes towards various genocides.
jesus fucking christ i see this shit all over the internet and it is why our society is collapsing. just droves of people behaving and thinking in ways that would fucking abhor a literature teacher from even just a decade ago.
When someone says “I think the only bad thing about the Holocaust was that Germany did it” they need to do a fair amount of work to clarify that they do not mean that literally. Otherwise, I will be inclined to take them at their word.
of course he means it literally?
that’s why i think, as i said, his comment is reductionist. the key word is
I think the only bad thing…
he’s just trying to draw an edgy hyperbolic narrative that the world only cares about the Holocaust in particular not because it is a genocide but because it threatened the international status quo. he’s wrong, but he’s not a nazi, at least as far as i can tell from his singular comment. i won’t come up to bat for the original commenter, he very well could be a bigot or a nazi. i don’t have enough context to know as a reader. his use of leftist diction and the way he wields it is a pretty strong indicator that this was his intended thesis, on top of obvious contextual clues.
man fuck idek what else to say. your response here is purely reactionary, you aren’t even saying anything other than reaffirming things you’ve already said.
Hard agree. And many folk forget, English is not everyone’s first language.
It’s janky phrasing, but after a reread, it makes sense.
I’m personally scared for what the future holds, we are living in a post-Enlightenment society.
At the risk of sounding a little chud-y… we are tasked with the same challenge people like Newton or Spinoza dealt with in life; we need to rebuild meaning, reason, and thought from first principles in a way that is amicable to the modern order.
People, like those that we’re seeing in action here, probably think Modest Proposal is actually encouraging the audience to eat children. It’s a serious problem.
The fact that you’re stopping to read what the person said and form a charitable interpretation of it instead of just leaping down their throat while smashing your phone / keyboard with rage is commendable.
Ignoring the actual content / intended meaning of what they said the moment THIS right here disappears from Lenny is the moment it’s dead.
I mean, if they actually think the holocaust was hunky dory then fuck them, but I agree it’s probably just poorly phrased.
Yeah. People misunderstand your comment’s viewpoint, but it’s accurate.
The allies have retconned their WWII history as brave defenders of modern society and freedom when in reality they did not intervene for anyone’s sake but their own. Least of all the Jews’. Tons of advocates for eugenics and phrenology along vocal fascists like Henry Ford in the US, imperialist ambitions towards non-western countries, the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact…
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Wow, that’s a pretty insane reaction, why would they say something like th- Oh, I see, they say shit like that all the time and almost no one calls them out on it? They’d kill her with impunity if she were even slightly darker-skinned, and will brook no interference with their ethnic cleansing? It’s a good thing that the ICC is at least reining them in befo- oh, they’ve also been largely impotent to stop the bloodbath from flying off the rails?
Looks like the fatwa’s on the other foot.
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If only some.countries was brave enough to bring security to those type of ships
Death threats are not 1A-protected free speech. So terrorism charges against those making the threats, yes?
/we all know the answer to that question
Terrorism charges don’t really mean much anymore. You can call anything terrorism at this point. They will need something less generic.
You can call anything terrorism at this point.
you know, except a white, right wing, man, who commits mass murder, for ideological reasons
Those are lone wolves, and tragically mentally ill, of course
All those lone wolves seem to have a lot in common. Hmmm
At least they’re consistent in how they want to resolve conflict.
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How about posting yourself one?
Uh… Why would a network founded, owned and run by Palestinian volunteers be Iranian propaganda?
Because he’s a racist.
@NoneOfUrBusiness @palestine @technocrit @RowRowRowYourBot
90 day old account has big opinions on who and who isn’t trustworthy - more at 5
Lindsey Graham is a pus riddled sore. Why does cancer harm the innocent when there is righteous work to be done?
Maybe this is why Wayne Enterprises made the Cancer Ray
My introductory scene with Harley Quinn was her shooting a guard with the cancer raygun. The other guard blurts out, “He has kids!” - I was hooked.
I still haven’t seen it but I really need to
It will be well worth your time as the writing is sublime. The Joker’s foray into the middle-class lifestyle is wonderful as is Bane’s trip to Italy. And that’s amongst so many other fun story lines.
Ah, yes, threatening to murder teenage girls - Clearly, the moral high ground
Small correction that does not take away from the point your making, but Greta is 22.
The passage of time confuses and scares me
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Good question! I hope he responds.
Also, guaranteed he talks about “females” on reg.
Wow… I didn’t realize that got posted.
I wrote it out (mostly - I didn’t finish it), but then thought better of it, but I didn’t immediately delete it. Then later when I opened my screen, there it was, still. And I actuslly thought “Lucky I didn’t butt-post that.”
Apparently not.
Ah well…
Well, that was an absolutely garbage take. Good on you.
Threatening her life is very different than criticizing her ideals and unacceptable no matter how annoying you believe she is. Also, her credentials are growing by the day despite your personal opinions.
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No one should ever do anything to help anyone unless they PASS A BILL (even writing a bill is not good enough)based on the help they give.
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You could check the Wikipedia entry for her, there’s a few accomplishments in there. in any case, I’d say attempting to bring food to starving people under death threats and attempts for doing so makes any of her attempts at doing something, whether the goal is accomplished, far better than whatever you’ve got going on.
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Thunberg’s climate activism began when she persuaded her parents to adopt lifestyle choices that reduced her family’s carbon footprint.
She protested outside the Swedish parliament where she called for stronger action on climate change by holding up a Skolstrejk för klimatet (School Strike for Climate) sign and handing out informational flyers.[3] After the election, Thunberg spoke in front of supporters, telling them to use phones to film her. She then said she would continue school striking for the climate every Friday until Sweden was in compliance with the Paris climate agreement.
Sweden signed the agreement and is on track with the Paris climate agreement from what I can tell.
After Thunberg addressed the 2018 United Nations Climate Change Conference, weekly climate strike protests took place on Fridays around the world. In 2019, coordinated multi-city protests involved over a million students each.
Thunberg’s rise to world fame made her an ad hoc leader in the climate activist community.
Thunberg’s influence on the world stage has been described by The Guardian and other media as the “Greta effect”
She has received honours and awards, including in Time’s 100 most influential people, named the youngest Time Person of the Year in 2019, inclusion in the Forbes list of The World’s 100 Most Powerful Women (2019),[19] and nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Thunberg won a climate change essay competition held by Swedish newspaper Svenska Dagbladet. In part, she wrote: “I want to feel safe. How can I feel safe when I know we are in the greatest crisis in human history?”
In December, after Sweden’s 2018 general election, Thunberg continued to school strike – but only on Fridays. She inspired school students across the globe to take part in her Friday school strikes. In December alone, more than 20,000 students held strikes in at least 270 cities.
Thunberg’s speech during the plenary session of the 2018 United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP24) went viral.[67] She said that the world leaders present were “not mature enough to tell it like it is”.[68] In the first half of 2019, she joined various student protests around Europe, and was invited to speak at various forums and parliaments. At the January 2019 World Economic Forum, Thunberg gave a speech in which she declared: “Our house is on fire.”[69] She addressed the British, European and French parliaments; in the latter case several right-wing politicians boycotted her.[70][71] In a short meeting with Thunberg, Pope Francis thanked her and encouraged her to continue her activism.
While in New York, Thunberg was invited to give testimony in the US House Select Committee on the Climate Crisis on 18 September. Instead of testifying, she gave an eight-sentence statement and submitted the IPCC Special Report on Global Warming of 1.5 °C as evidence.
…made an official complaint against five nations that were not on track to meet the emission reduction targets they committed to in their Paris Agreement pledges: Argentina, Brazil, France, Germany, and Turkey.[83][84] The complaint challenged these countries under the Third Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child.
In late September 2019, Thunberg entered Canada where she participated in climate protests in Montreal, Edmonton and Vancouver, including leading a climate rally as part of the 27 September 2019 Global Climate Strike in Montreal.
Thunberg participated in climate protests in New York City with Alexandria Villaseñor and Xiye Bastida; in Washington, D.C., with Jerome Foster II; Iowa City; Los Angeles; Charlotte; Denver with Haven Coleman; and the Standing Rock Indian Reservation with Tokata Iron Eyes.
Thunberg arrived in the Port of Lisbon on 3 December 2019,[96][97] then travelled on to Madrid to speak at COP25 and to participate with the local Fridays for Future climate strikers.
On 30 December 2019, Thunberg was guest editor of the BBC Radio’s flagship current affairs programme…
On 21 January 2020, Thunberg returned to the World Economic Forum held in Davos, Switzerland, delivered two speeches, and participated in panel discussions hosted by The New York Times and the World Economic Forum. Thunberg used many of the themes contained in her previous speeches, but focused on one in particular: “Our house is still on fire.” Thunberg joked that she cannot complain about not being heard, saying: “I am being heard all the time.”
I’m not even halfway through the wikipedia article.
Before you jump in and say “well, she hasn’t actually done anything” let me ask you; What did Martin Luther King Jr. actually do?
The answer is, she’s a serial protester and very successful at getting arrested.
There are innumerable people who are actually achieving things but no one cares.
For example, medicines sans frontiers has medical professionals in Gaza. I haven’t seen any posts about them on lemmy. Those people have been being heroes every day for many months.
I don wonder what her actual role is on the boat. I suspect she’s head person in charge of raising awareness.
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In some ways I think the “attention” is counter productive.
Everyone is aware of the debate around climate change or gaza. Getting views from lemmy users on YouTube videos doesn’t help anything.
Greta is incapable of reaching the people who need to be reached. A fresh faced gen z can’t guilt boomers into changing their behaviour.
I don’t dislike Greta specifically, but the obsession with her every utterance is ridiculous.
She makes chuds like you cry.
That’s something.
She also lost like 90% of public and media attention over speaking out against Israel. And she is putting her own life at great risk at this very moment.
Let her have her last few years of relevancy.
So what’s your opinion on Andrew Tate?
More relevant, but less annoying than you are.
She’s done more than you ever will, so she’s got that going for her.
Like you have cred.
How dare you?!
/S
Allow me to translate.
I form my worldview on vibes alone and am incapable of thinking for myself. My perception of people is entirely filtered through memes and sensationalist media.
How exactly is she annoying?
She points out that things are preventably bad while also being a normal-looking young woman. How dare she.
I mean they’re well past threatening. They’ve been killing hundreds of actual children in Palestine for months.
Yeah but those aren’t worthy victims.
A rich white girl on the other hand… that’ll be newsworthy… for a couple of days.
Serves them right if they’re… checks notes… feeding starving people. Yep.
however very on brand
She hasn’t been a teenager for a while. This idea has been perpetuated by Right Wingers since she came on the scene, and despite her turning 18 four years ago, people treat her as if she was an ignorant child. We need to all know this and stop propagating this.
I’m gonna be so devastated if she dies…
This is doing so much harm to the climate cause it’s crazy
That’s not fun at all.
Holy shit, I think I stumbled upon an archaeological internet site!
It’s not like her international protesting license is limited to only climate change. You can dedicate 3 months out of a year to other forms without having to pay for the dual pretest license.
