I wonder who funds the ones who voted to kill it
Not killed. The Impeachment can still procede, they’ve simply chosen not to do it now when Republicans hold house and senate majorities. The votes needed to remove Trump are 67, meaning you would need 20 GOP Senators.
That’s the removal bit.
An Impeachment without removal means fuck all.
Killed. The only way they would vote for impeachment is if trump stopped doing whatever netanyahu wanted.
Not kill, shelve. Let’s be honest, you weren’t going to get dozens of GOP votes in the house and 20 in the senate to remove Trump anyways. If you want Trump gone then the only way is helping the DNCs take a huge midterm majority.
How much proof do you need to understand they are working in concert to usher in an imperial fascist police state. The Democrats don’t oppose the Republicans, they oppose YOU. To them, YOU are the threat.
I think, given the huge leap you’ve made, I’m gonna need a little more proof.
Hanlon says hello.
[Looks at Congress not doing shit to Trump’s constant misuse of his powers]
Yeah sure, big leap. I’m sure they’re actually working on stopping him out of public view, just trust them to do the right thing next time.
In the context of defending our country from the ongoing fascist takeover, Democrats being too stupid to understand that they need to do something about it might be worse than actively supporting it so I’m not sure what you’re getting at.
If Democrats had actual power to do something about it then you’d have a great argument, but they’ve had 50 or less in the senate for more than a decade and Trump is in power with a plurality election result.
Even the impeachment trial never would have convinced 20 GOP senators to cross the aisle to remove Dump from office, it’s better to save it for later.
Stop making excuses. They have the filibuster and have used it once, against nothing.
They voted to remove David Hogg but not trump.
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Oh good to know the mods removed my comment talking about a troll. Good to know they stand with trolls when it benefits them .
TBH I think they’re right. It has zero chance to result in removal. It has zero chance of passing either house of congress. It just ends up being an ineffective gesture. Save it for when you have some chance of actually changing something.
And how is doing nothing any better? We are literally on the precipice of authoritarianism yet we are still trying to find the right time. People are literally getting picked up off the streets, we are baselessly bombing countries for Israel, we have the national guard and Marines being sent to cities, we are imposing tariffs on our allies, the president is actively and blatantly accepting bribes, we have an incompetent cabinet that is dismantling everything they see, we have a “big beautiful bill” that will ruin people’s lives, we had DOGE hijack all of our data, we have tourists being detained for social media posts, we have people being detained for their free speech, and we have masked men pointing guns at citizens that refuse to identify themselves. So, when is the right time? Is it when it specifically affects them for once? Because if they have to wait that long than we are all fucked.
It passed the House last time. He’s slowly losing the support of the Republicans. It could pass the Senate.
All signs are that he still has enough dirt and genuine threats to browbeat the republicans when it matters. There is a lot of argument toward making him do that rather than just assuming he will but that would involve the fucking democrats doing anything.
The only “hope” will be IF we have fair midterm elections and there is a blue wave. Suddenly “only trump can get you reelected” will be forgotten (or, more pointedly, they’ll remember how he has never been able to do that…) and it will just be the die hards who know there is footage of them doing Whatever in moscow.
Fuck that.
Of course it has no chance of passing. That has absolutely no bearing on future attempts to impeach the dictator which also will have no chance of passing.
But you know what voting against it does? It tells the American People that the democrats in office support trump completely shitting on everything and unilaterally joining israel in a war.
Trying for impeachment is still doing something as opposed to sitting around waiting for someone else to do the job.
Let’s say my family is massively in debt. All the other members of my family are trying to find work, or going to local food banks, or planning a budget.
Meanwhile, I am using my time to scrounge in thrift stores and rub every lamp I can find to try to find a genie and magically wish everything better.
You may think my actions are useless, and a waste of time, and that I’m childish for believing it will accomplish anything; but I’m “still doing something as opposed to sitting around” and that makes it OK, right?
Revolution in the streets everyone! Let’s go if they don’t want change we will give them change.
Not surprised, just disappointed. They’re all complicit
They’re all complicit
What?
79 voted for it, if you don’t think that’s fucking huge, you don’t understand how bad it’s been
Shit is improving, quickly even.
But like ~20% of the House openly and publicly going against Israel? Thats significant and the trend looks set to continue.
And I shouldn’t have to say this…
But ~80% is less than 100%, so no, it’s not “all”.
Didn’t the house already impeach him twice?
Yep…and it didn’t do much, because “impeach” does NOT mean “remove from presidency”. It can lead to that, but it’s like saying being written up at work is the same as being fired.
Right so why bother impeaching him anymore. It makes the legislative branch look like a bunch of idiots.
They are a bunch of idiot.
Because impeaching is step one in removing. Procedure matters in these things. The one President who was almost convicted (Nixon) left when it became clear that public opinion of him was going to force the Senate’s hand to convict him. It’s all political, but it’s the only legal mechanism that exists.
I really don’t think Trump cares about public opinion.
The government doesn’t work that way anymore. We’re not gonna Woodward and Bernstein our way out of this.
Also: since when does Trump care what’s legal?
Like the 60+ separate votes/bills to remove the ACA when Republicans didn’t have the support and here we are a few years later with them running the entire government.
Have you considered that maybe “all” was referring to “all that voted against it” ?
Have you considered that my comment might have been intended to be the entire lyrics to 80s Belgium techno anthem Pump up the Jams?
Sometimes we have to take words at face value.
But that would change the entirety of what you wrote. Not the interpretation of a single word that is the same in both instances.
Like, obviously it’s not 100% of people in gov. But seriously, it’s the whole fucking thing. Rotten to the core.
This was not one of those times however. Mearly silly pentandtry.
Shit is improving, quickly even.
On what planet?
It’s just like in the playground; almost everybody want to stand up to the bully, but nobody has the guts. They are afraid the bully will call them names or attack. And when finally one does stand up, the others cowers in a corner.
They removed David Hogg from his position but vote to keep trump in his.
Hogg is a threat to the oligarchy whereas Trump, the entire Republican party, and most of the Democratic party are complicit in supporting it.
Name em. If it’s too hard, name those who voted to proceed.
They all wanted to bomb Iran anyway
Fucking traitors
Fucking useless.
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Hence why I won’t be voting for my Dem Rep in the next election we may have. Fuck that collaborator bitch.
You think voting independent will help?
Voting for Dems demonstrably hasn’t helped. It would be a good idea to try a different tactic
Well for a different tactic, how about supporting a more progressive candidate in the primary? Just look at the NYC mayoral primary that just happened.
I’m down for that. I’ve been celebrating it since I saw it
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Voting third party has a much stronger track record for not helping a damned thing
I think we’re beyond help.
Exactly. Best we can do is try to limit damage
Maybe those we elect should vote to limit damage then.
They need their heads examined
They need their heads something, to unsociopathy them
