Its not like there are enough people in the country illegally to fill the concentration camps the budget bill is going to pay for

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    Those who gain citizenship through unlawful means and endanger our national security will not maintain the benefits of being an American citizen

    Lmao… Benefits? What exactly are those benefits? Not being on the receiving end of a bombing? Not having our country destabilized by a narcissist (we don’t even get that benefit anymore). Having healthcare taken away? A secret police force take you away for wrongthink? Lol benefits of being an American…

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    But I thought they were only going after people in the country illegally, I thought they were okay with immigration as long as they followed legal processes (sarcasm)

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    I have three nationalities. Born in Argentina and was naturalized at 8 yrs old in the USA when my parents moved. Been living in Canada since 2000 and also a citizen. I am legally bound to declare taxes in the US, even if I never made a penny working there. Revoking citizenship is expensive and requires a lot of paperwork. Fuck you MAGA, fuck you Trump. Take my citizenship away, I’ll gladly give it back. I’ll save thousands per year not having to deal with your backwards ass-shit citizenship based tax laws.

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      Gulags at least had trials. Our system isn’t even bothering to do that.

      Turns out the sham trials were the excessive part.

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        the year is 2025, a Chinese citizen responds to the Tiananmen Square copypasta with a picture of BB Vance and the Alligator Auschwitz copypasta. The American citizen’s internet access is immediately cut off and they are ordered to lay face down outside where the Amazon Prime predator drone can see them to wait for an ICE collection crew.

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              I’m in my forties, and it just feels like we’ve been constantly losing ground since Obama left office, I’m just so frustrated by all of the apathy, corruption, and dishonesty, and have been since 2015.

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                  Nothing? The protests are a big part of the reason the richest man on earth got kicked out of D.C.

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                  Part of it is trying to keep up morale. If you feel so beaten down that you won’t do anything, that’s just as bad. Not everyone can get motivated from the bleakness of a situation or from difficult and almost impossible struggle. For those of us who are, it feels like finally we’re fighting some actual great evil, of whose evilness justifies ANY means of defeating it. It feels exciting for us, I’m guessing it almost like a form of that bloodlust that those who get captured by the enamoring power of war feel when their country declares it upon another country which they view as evil.

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                  No conditioning required. The Bystander Effect has always been baked into human instincts.

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        I hate to break it to you, that’s the MAGAts name for it, so they would love it if you did. And they’re selling merch for it.

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          No, they’re calling Alligator Alcatraz, because they think Alcatraz was a decent place. HitlerPig has even floated the idea of re-opening it.

          Alligator Auschwitz is too close to reality, and they are still in the denial stage that they are following the Nazi playbook.

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            My dumbass didn’t even read “Auschwitz” in the original comment lmao, I read “Alcatraz”. You’re absolutely right here.

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              Alligator Auschwitz is a much more accurate description, and it also pisses off the MAGA Nazis so much, so that’s the one we should use.

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    They even made us memorize this one in grade school:

    1. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Note that this says nothing about having to be a citizen for this to apply to you, either. And while we’re at it, see also this.

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      Well you see, congress isn’t making a law, the executive branch is just doing blatantly illegal shit with impunity, because congress is full of spineless coward sellouts

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        They are just imagining they will wield that power someday so they don’t want to rock the boat.

        They are all temporarily embarrassed ruling party. Otherwise they would want to remove or restrict these powers. This did not happen overnight either.

        We have known for several decades now the extreme problems with executive overreach. The President should be a figured head only and Congress should increase in size and do its job.

        This is blatant corruption and a dereliction of their duty. It really is disgusting to see how little regard these jokers have for their positions. Electing a literal carnival barker and giving his team of racist rejects the keys to the country is mind bogglingly stupid.

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    This administration is traitorous and needs to be removed immediately. They are enemies of the American people and the American States themselves.

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      It’s not just the administration. Every republican, and many democrats in congress anre also supporting this.

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    Any americans about to peacefully hit the streets again? It will surely work this time…

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        Boycotting and building the nations defenses is not nothing, but I get why you think it should be up to another country to come and liberate you; sounds much more comfortable than risking your own way of living.

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          How exactly are you building your nations defenses?

          No one said any country should come to the aid of the US. That’s you making things up.

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            Just get off your ass and quit making excuses.

            “but what about your country, that’s what it’s really about. I would rather make this about you so I don’t have to look inward.”

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                I wrote what I did, and what my country is doing; you just ignored it or were to american to have an actual thought process. Do you think, that I would be allowed in that shit hole country? It’s up to the people that live there.

                Get of your ass if you are american. There is a dictator there, do something other than commenting online or waving signs. I deflect?! Fucking amazing…

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                  Show me where you said anything in our conversation about what you’ve actually done for your own country.

                  You’re more than eager to criticize other people, while not doing anything yourself.

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    “If you have one group of people who feels very comfortable that their citizenship is secure, they will feel much more comfortable being politically active,” she said. “And if you have another group of people who worries that if their political activity gets on the wrong side of somebody in power, that their lives and livelihoods might be vulnerable — that is a lesser citizenship. That is a reason why people might step back from political participation.”

    And there it is, reduce resistance little by little, then eliminate everyone.

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        Too late, the opposition (my fellow Democrats) made sure most of us aren’t armed.

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          “Most of us aren’t armed”? Homie US citizens own 120 guns per 100 people. The fucking answer to absolutely every problem here, left or right, has been to arm themselves. We have literally never had more left-wing people carrying pistols.

          Like Jesus Christ, someone got shot and killed at the ‘No Kings’ rally in Idaho, and all three parties involved were left-wing. I am not sure what planet you’re on, but it ain’t Earth.

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            I mean…when we say guns, are we saying they own 120 AR-15s? Or are we realistically saying that certain gun owners like collecting even rather useless guns? Like most gun owner wishlist are having an AR, AK, 1911, Glock, a revolver of some kind, SKS, Mosin, PS-90, etc. Once you got one gun, it’s like “yeah I mean I can have fun with just one gun, but it’s funner to larp as a Soviet soldier with an AK, and also 1911s are objectively beautiful guns, and also yeah 1911 is a pistol, but a Beretta 92 FS would be cool because it looks cool and is in a bunch of movies, and you know, even though I have 2 pistols, a Glock would be nice because it’s practical and utilitarian and those other 2 pistols are just for fun, and also i can makr glock perfection memes, and now i want a civilian version of an MP5 because that shit looks sick in the movies I see it in, and also I’m a fan of Stargate, so fuck it I’m going to get a civilian version of a p90 too, and also you know what else would be cool? A revolver, maybe two of them, one for my detective larp and one for my cowboy larp. And shit, I’m interested in a shot gun too, for self defense of course, so let’s get a Mossberg! But damn the KSG bull pup shotgun looks so sci fi and cool, so I’m gonna get that too, and also wow some double barrel wooden stock shotguns look beautiful! I want two, one that I can afford to rough it up a bit with for hunting, and one really beautiful one, because why not!”

            Like a few of the guns above are practical for combat and or revolution or what not because of their ease of fixing, customizability, etc. But a lot of them are redundant and bought because of some cursory historical interest/larp/coolness and alot are just for fun.

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            Yes, but averaging is the wrong take here. I believe the actual amount of gun owners is under 40%, if I remember the studies. I personally witnessed a messy divorce, and the individual that had a personal stake in the gun collection moved somewhere in the realm of 200 rifles out of the house. I thought I knew gun nuts* before that, and it blew my mind. Those sort of folks are going to massively skew the guns per capita.

            *I had seen collections of 50+, but they were rare and rich… most ‘nuts’ that I knew just liked their personal amount of 5-10 that they thought were the bee’s knees.

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          The neoliberal controlled opposition is disarmed, because you don’t need personal arms when you have cops and your goal is preserving the power of the state and the capitalist boot.

          The actual opposition (who have been disenfranchised by your fellow Democrats), were never so naive and are armed just fine. Just disorganized and excluded from the political machinery.

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          Lives in a nation with more gun deaths than a major conflict every year.

          “We need more guns!”

          If guns stopped fascism we should be the least fascist nation ever. Since we are the most fascist nation it is more likely guns are part of the problem, not the solution.

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            I have read the premise phrased as follows:

            “No amount of meaningful change will occur until the wealthy fear for their lives.”

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              Counter-counter point: It takes fascism to defeat fascism therefore we should embrace gun culture and become fascist. The only way to stop a good fascist is to become a bad one /S

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                  Please, you have no clue what history has shown us. We are the worst, most violent civilization the world has ever seen. We lose more Americans every year to gun violence than most countries lose in a major conflict. That is our fucking baseline.

                  You better wise up quick.

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        No worries mate, you had a good run, all things come to an end and all that!. On a serious note I do empathise a bit for the normals among you. But as a recipient of some foreign policy freedom in the 80s by the USS new Jersey on Beirut, I wish I could be selective in whose face the leopards eat under this administration. Unfortunately I can’t.