the drain can have little a grease, as a treat

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    Dad owned a low rent apartment house. people would put chicken bones in the drain and then call because the drain backed up. and take bulbs out of the hallway lights. He’d laugh about it then fix the stuff because he wasn’t a good slum-lord. Probably never broke even

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    Fuck that noice! Sometimes I buy bacon only because my fat jar is empty. That shit is gold for cooking with.

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    Okay but how? In what? For how long? Do you reuse it again? How often? Does it go bad? Where do I put the jar? Do I close it? People just say shit like “save your grease” and expect me to know what to do.

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      I just pour the grease from mine into a ramekin and then put that in the refrigerator, optionally cover it with plastic wrap if you are worried about contamination or smell. Most people use a jar with a lid but I don’t cook fatty meats often enough to need a jar for all the grease I produce. If you left the pan out after cooking/overnight and the grease solidified before you could pour it, just heat it up again on the stove or in the oven until it turns back into a liquid. Obviously, wait until the pan has cooled enough to handle it without burning yourself while doing this pouring step, hot grease burns like hell and will send you straight to the emergency room with 3rd degree burns if it gets spilled on you.

      Once it’s in the container and in the refrigerator, it will solidify into a scoopable/spreadable semi-solid with a texture somewhere in between butter and ice cream. You can use it in place of fats or oils in other recipes (for example, if you need to grease a pan with butter or cooking spray before cooking, you can use a spoonful of the solid bacon grease instead). If you don’t want to use it and just want to dispose of it safely instead, just wait for it to solidify in the fridge and then scoop it into the trash. Takes about two seconds and won’t clog your plumbing

      It does go bad eventually. The grease will get rancid if left alone for too long, and it will start to smell foul and anything you cook with it will taste terrible and make you sick. If you are going to save it, use it within a month or so if you leave it uncovered, or covered it can last longer but give it a smell test before you put it in a pan - it should have a neutral smell at room temperature and be white in color or have a very slight yellowish hue. Throw it out if you see any spots or discoloration.

      A steak cooked in bacon grease is next level delicious. You should try it.

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      You put it with the jar into general waste. I guess you could also filter and reuse it if you had the materials and will

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        Why into general waste? Just put it with the other glass, they wash that anyway.

        (Btw they are not happy that you do this, but whatever)

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      Throw it away once it’s cooled. If it’s a solidified fat, you can just scrape it into the trash bag. If it’s a liquid oil, then you can throw it into a disposable container (I have a million takeout soup containers on hand at any given time) so that it doesn’t leak everywhere.

      Oil is compostable, but only in proper ratios to the overall organic material being composted, so it’s fair game to put into compostable containers for industrial composting, or maybe small quantities in your backyard compost, but I wouldn’t recommend it unless you know what you’re doing.

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      Pour it in an empty jar. let it cool and then put it in the fridge. It keeps nearly indefinitely.

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      I just take a piece of aluminum foil and press it into the sink drain so it makes a little cup. Then pour the oil into that foil. Then drop an ice cube in to help it solidify and cool a bit then I grab the foil corners and twist them up and dump it in the trash.

      It’s quick and easy and neat.

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      You save it up in a can or a jar and then you have a world of options:

      Throw it away Make soap from it Throw it away Use it to season cast iron pots and pans Throw it away Cook with it if it’s from the last few days Throw it away Add it to outdoor dog food in the winter Throw it away Soften dry ski-you know what, just throw it away.

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        throw it away, throw it away, throw it away now

        e: oh it’s GIVE it away. Also a grease jar option!

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      I got you.

      I used to throw it away, but recently I started saving it, and it’s amazing.

      Step 1: Cook bacon.

      Step 2: Strain the grease. I use a tea strainer. You don’t have to do this, but it helps it last longer, because the bacon bits spoil before the grease does.

      Step 3: Pour it into a small tub. I use an old spreadable butter tub that has masking tape on the top and sides with “BACON GREASE” written on it, so I don’t accidentally use it instead of butter.

      Step 4: Store it in the refrigerator.

      Step 5: Use that shit. You can use it in most places you’d use butter or oil.

      • Caramelizing onions? Slap a dollop of bacon grease into the pan first.

      • Pancakes? Pancakes with a soupçon of bacon.

      • Eggs? Obviously.

      • Grilled cheese? Holy shit, use bacon grease. It’s so fucking good.

      It behaves a lot like butter. When it’s cold it stiffens up, but if you leave it out for a few minutes it softens and becomes spreadable.

      Whenever I cook more bacon I top up my bacon grease tub. My cooking has gotten a little bit better this year, and it’s all because of bacon grease.

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        Another thing you can do is to separate the grease from any residual solids.

        If you have a jar of bacon grease with brown bits floating around in it, you can put it in a pot with a similar amount of water and bring it all up to a boil or just near it for just a moment. The grease will sit on top of the hot water, but anything else will fall down. Then let the pot cool and put it in the fridge to solidify the grease. You can then scoop the now-solid grease in big chunks and put it back in the jar and discard any bits in the water.

        I learned this from people who do at-home soap-making from their rendered fats. They would repeat it a few times before adding lye, as it will leach impurities such as salt, aromatic and favor compounds from the fat, but I find doing it once or twice leaves me with a nice cooking fat that still has bacon-y aroma.

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    You shouldn’t pour it down the drain for obvious reasons but putting it in a jar is weird af. Is there some actual reason for the jar that I don’t know? Whenever I have to do the dishes and there is a lot of grease in a pan I just put a few papertowels (if needed) in the trash and pour the grease in there. When I’m done with the dishes I take the trash out.

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      Depends on how much grease you have— always stored bacon grease in glass jars to use later for greasing pans and given bacony flavor. Secondly, grease pours easily and is liquid when hot, but because it’s hot you can’t pour it into the trash, or wipe it clean with paper towels as mentioned. You have to let it cool which means it becomes more of a mess.

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        Yes but hot grease can damage plumbing and cool fast enough to cause clogging over time. Pour it down the sink is totally fine, but you gotta run hot water with it

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      The plummer cost will most likely be for you if it clogs the drain, otherwise you have a pretty good landlord.

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      Obligatory response to this meme e’er time, “Sigh, if it’s on septic its massively expensive infrastructure the tenant will be held liable for 10/10 times, and will only render one less living space habitable. And if it’s on sewer it’s punishing the public’s wastewater treatment facility.”

      Aand resume.

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        If it’s septic it’s whatever. Bigger issue if it’s not, then tax dollars are required to fix it, and it’s just wrecking infrastructure

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          Infrastructure that was torn from public control and privatised, ruined, and now begging for more tax money to fund their bonuses, you say?

          Delightfully devilish!

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              There’s not really “public” per se.

              It’ll be handled by a private contractor owned by private equity that specializes in leeching taxpayer dollars same as everything. The tender will be won by those who can promise the local govt officials the best jobs at said private contractor or sister/parent company after their term.

              Even if by some miracle the city/municipality has its own teams for this work, they’ll be nickel and dimed by checkbox ticking legislation that exists as breeding ground for middlemen consultants who will suck away taxpayer dollars.

              That is until some “budget hawk” type consultancy is brought in by some bigger fish whether it’s the city or the state or the fed or the fucking IMF if you’re Greece and force privatisation in the name of efficiency.

              This will lead to a collapse of the service quality, collapse of living standards and a declining trust in institutions, leading to a far-right takeover because in the end - most people are monsters.

              Or something like that I imagine. I used to work for the NHS in the UK. The owner of the trust “convinced” the procurement to allow the company to make a “surplus”. He drove a Porsche and looked like a 90s movie villain.

              So yes, pour that shit. And don’t feel bad - the ghouls wouldn’t, and we’re all just human after all.

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        Whatever is downstream of my sink should be built to handle food waste. That must include fats. Not my fault if they half-assed it honestly. Build a better world next time.

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            Why should I give one single shit about any of this?

            Because some random on the internet said so in a shitposting thread?

            I pay taxes so they keep the goddamn gutters running, if they’re made badly and aren’t fit for purpose - wastewater from washing fucking dishes - just make them better.

            It’s not rocket science, but the approach is the same - you don’t bitch about space being hard - you build better rockets, better fuels, better calculators for trajectories and so on.

            If you that concerned with grease maybe consider taking a shower. I’d rather flush grease down the drain than my one life like some of y’all.

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                If you think I’m a piece of shit for doing what is just normal and widely accepted as such because there is no reason to the contrary you can provide, you must live a helluva sheltered life. I’d adjust your expectations and fast if you want to get through life.

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    Pretty easy to sidestep this issue by just not eating heart-clogging foods. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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          Oddly enough, this “clogged heart” “fact” is slowly being debunked by individual groups of scientists who are not sponsored by any food, tobacco or pharma industry.

          I might have the urge to look for this paper I read about 2 years ago. Long story short: the unsaturated fats bind with sugar to form the small cholesterol molecules that can lead to blockages, while saturated fats form large cholesterol molecules that are used as a means of transport on the blood.

          But nevertheless more research has to be done.

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            No, it is not being debunked. People are just being fooled by the constant onslaught of industry-backed disinformation. The role of high saturated fat to unsaturated fat intake on cardiovascular disease is one of the most thoroughly tested areas of nutritional health, and the consensus from real experts is that saturated fat intake absolutely progresses cvd.

            https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/healthy-eating/eat-smart/fats/saturated-fats

            "There’s a lot of conflicting information about saturated fats. Should I eat them or not?

            The American Heart Association recommends limiting saturated fats to less than 6% of total calories. Saturated fats are found in butter, cheese, red meat, other animal-based foods and tropical oils. Decades science has proven that saturated fats can raise your “bad” cholesterol and put you at higher risk for heart disease.

            The more important thing to remember is the overall dietary pattern. Saturated fats are just one piece of the puzzle. Eating more fruits, vegetables and whole grains is a way to achieve an overall healthy eating pattern.

            When you hear about the latest “diet of the day” or a new or odd-sounding theory about food, consider the source. The American Heart Association makes dietary recommendations only after carefully considering the latest scientific evidence."

            https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/the-truth-about-fats-bad-and-good

            (…) “Is saturated fat bad for you? A diet rich in saturated fats can drive up total cholesterol, and tip the balance toward more harmful LDL cholesterol, which prompts blockages to form in arteries in the heart and elsewhere in the body. For that reason, most nutrition experts recommend limiting saturated fat to under 10% of calories a day.”

            (…) “Eating polyunsaturated fats in place of saturated fats or highly refined carbohydrates reduces harmful LDL cholesterol and improves the cholesterol profile. It also lowers triglycerides.”

            And I’m choosing to focus on meta-analyses here to highlight the sheer volume of studies that have, and continue to be done on this subject.

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39523824/

            “Results: Fourteen studies were included in the systematic review and seven in the meta-analysis. Our results showed an association between OO consumption and reduction in all-cause mortality (HR: 0.85; 95% CI: 0.80-0.91), cardiovascular mortality (HR: 0.84; 95% CI: 0.76-0.93) and cancer mortality (HR: 0.89; 95% CI: 0.86-0.93). Conclusions: Consumption of OO particularly reduces cardiovascular mortality (16%), followed by all-cause mortality (15%) and cancer mortality (11%) in the adult population. However, further studies are needed to clarify the underlying mechanisms.”

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30006369/

            “Fifty-four trials were included in the NMA. Safflower oil had the highest SUCRA value for LDL-C (82%) and TC (90%), followed by rapeseed oil (76% for LDL-C, 85% for TC); whereas, palm oil (74%) had the highest SUCRA value for TG, and coconut oil (88%) for HDL-C. Safflower, sunflower, rapeseed, flaxseed, corn, olive, soybean, palm, and coconut oil as well beef fat were more effective in reducing LDL-C (-0.42 to -0.23 mmol/l) as compared with butter. Despite limitations in these data, our NMA findings are in line with existing evidence on the metabolic effects of fat and support current recommendations to replace high saturated-fat food with unsaturated oils.”

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27434027/

            “This meta-analysis of randomised controlled feeding trials provides evidence that dietary macronutrients have diverse effects on glucose-insulin homeostasis. In comparison to carbohydrate, SFA, or MUFA, most consistent favourable effects were seen with PUFA, which was linked to improved glycaemia, insulin resistance, and insulin secretion capacity.”

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35866510/

            “The results of this review suggest that CO consumptionhas beneficial effects on LDL-c, TC, and LDL-c/HDL-c ratio compared to OO. Therefore, its replacement with OO can have cardioprotective impacts.”

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37968628/

            “Our findings indicate that a shift from animal-based (e.g., red and processed meat, eggs, dairy, poultry, butter) to plant-based (e.g., nuts, legumes, whole grains, olive oil) foods is beneficially associated with cardiometabolic health and all-cause mortality.”

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36343558/

            “Prospective studies supported a beneficial association of olive oil consumption with CVD, T2D and all-cause mortality, but they did not show any association with cancer risk.”

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32428300/

            “The findings of this updated review suggest that reducing saturated fat intake for at least two years causes a potentially important reduction in combined cardiovascular events. Replacing the energy from saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat or carbohydrate appear to be useful strategies, while effects of replacement with monounsaturated fat are unclear. The reduction in combined cardiovascular events resulting from reducing saturated fat did not alter by study duration, sex or baseline level of cardiovascular risk, but greater reduction in saturated fat caused greater reductions in cardiovascular events.”

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25995283/

            “Palm oil consumption results in higher LDL cholesterol than do vegetable oils low in saturated fat and higher HDL cholesterol than do trans fat-containing oils in humans. The effects of palm oil on blood lipids are as expected on the basis of its high saturated fat content, which supports the reduction in palm oil use by replacement with vegetable oils low in saturated and trans fat.”

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            It’s a little weird that anyone still thinks a joke that was overdone 30 years ago, would do anything other than make you sound unhinged today. “Tell me not to do a thing that causes suffering, will you? Well what if I cause even more suffering then?!”

            I dunno, cartoon villain isn’t a good look in real life.

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              They are allowed to joke about that because your comment is equally as overdone and unhinged.

              As if you don’t have plant based grease.

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                I don’t have plant-based grease, because I don’t eat foods high in saturated fats plant-based or not, and I almost never cook with oil (except for rare occasions like the popcorn with olive oil I had last night).

                What exactly is unhinged and overdone about my comments?

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                He isn’t wrong about me being unhinged, he is wrong though about it not being a good look.

                Also I bought a pack of bacon from Costco for $21 I broke it down and ended up with enough bacon to last a month, i could care less about saving a pig or myself but fuck I’ll save the money.

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    So around Friday of last week, my ground level apartment started to have a weird, foul, smell. It got worse and worse, until Monday morning, when my toilet stopped flushing and the drains took forever to clear.

    By then the smell was horrid, like a mixture of skunk, piss, and decay. Thankfully for me, my toilet suddenly started working for a couple of hours Monday night, but then stopped working by Tuesday morning. Around 3pm on Tuesday, they finished repairing the sewage pipe, but the smell lingers on.

    This also happened maybe 6-8 months ago, and it took 7-10 days for the smell to finally dissipate. I expect it will take that long this time as well.

    Judging by the notice left on all of our doors, that threatened to charge the person or persons responsible for flushing “flushable” wipes and cigarette butts (???) as well as dumping oil down the drain, our sewage pipe must have been completely blocked up. Without inspecting each unit, I doubt they will be able to assign blame, so whoever did it will likely get away with it.

    I have nothing to worry about, as I never pour oil down the drain, I don’t smoke cigarettes, and I only ever use toilet paper in the bathroom. Whoever invented “flushable” wipes deserve a punch in the fucking face. Now my apartment smells absolutely terrible, and likely will continue to do so for a week or so.

    For the love of god, do not dump oil down the drain! It’s so easy to pour it into a jar, then use a paper towel to wipe the rest of the oil out of the pot/pan. It makes actually cleaning the cookware that much easier as well.

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      Counterpoint: if you rent, put everything down the drain you can. Stop taking your garbage out, just blend it and down the drain it goes. Everything goes down the drain. It’s like a magic hole that erases all of your sins!!

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        I’m with in you in spirit, but then I’d have to live with consequential stink of my own actions.

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        Certainly not enough to put in a jar. I usually give it a wipe with a single paper towel

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          And where do you dump the paper towel then? The idea behind a jar is that there are facility that takes that grease and (supposedly) won’t dump it in a trash field, which is pretty much bad too.

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        What is it with Europeans shitting on Americans on the internet so much lately? If we’re being honest everything that is current day American is either directly or indirectly their fault.

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          You mean, just f.e. that they never switched to metric system although they promised. This gotta be europes fault. Definitely. Americans are simply not responsible for their actions the last 300 yrs or so. It gotta be europeans.

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          Its fine to remind the self centered that the world doesn’t revolve around them.

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            I live in and visited multiple countries in Europe. You’re all just as arrogant. The only exception is eastern Europe but they’re just racist/homophobic

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              Nah eastern Europeans aren’t like that at all we’re all very friendly, except the poles obviously.

              .

              /s obviously

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                No offense but I’ve heard and seen the exact opposite. I’ve been told don’t go farther east than Praha if you’re brown. ESPECIALLY small eastern European towns/villages.

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    I always chug a beer/soda, open the top of the can using a can opener, and pour the grease into that.

    NOTE: make sure all the liquid is out of the bottom of the can (maybe wipe it down with a towel) or else the grease may shoot back out