Excellent. And they can take the pharmacists who have “personal or religious beliefs” and get rid of them too. No one should need to ask some other citizen’s personal permission for a service I contracted with my own doctor and medical company.
There are even some drug store cashiers that will refuse to sell condoms. Americans need to learn that if it doesnt affect you personally, its not their place to pretend they are a stakeholder in anyone else’s life. Stay in your effing lane, American healthcare workers. No one cares what you dont like or what your personal sky-fairy tells you. Last I heard “freedom of religion” was actually more “freedom from the tyranny of religion” when it was implemented by the nations founders.
While they are at it, Americans should stay out of other peoples bedrooms too. If they arent part of the situation, they don’t get a vote. As long as its consensual between two adult humans, its no one elses business what they do in there. <eagle cry of freedom right here>
ah yes, i too considered being a doctor so i can feel comfortable in my job. but then i realized when I’m treating a severed limb in an accident trying to stop buckets of blood flowing, that the person might be gay. ew, imagine. so i decided it’s not worth it.
I never will understand how somebody gets into any facet of medicine (e.g. nurse, doctor, pharmacist) and find it okay to deny anybody healthcare solely based on how the person lives. Like dude, there are better ways to make money and be a bigot at the same time. Insurance CEO comes to mind. Cannon fodder as well.
Because nursing school will shove you through even if you should fail and it’s an affordable 2 year degree that pays. And that’s how I ended up explaining what the P in HIPAA stands for and how to operate a mask. White trash nurses are a meme.
My first college was a technical college that also trained nurses. If there’s one thing I learned it’s that nurses have nasty hygiene habits. Hopefully that gets washed out (pun intended) in the field; eventually.
A nurse once told me to “mind my own fucking business” when I said “are you fucking kidding me?” to seeing her pull off her mask to cough into her hand and go back to the shit she was working on during covid lock downs. In the ER nurses station, surrounded by nurses with asks completely down or with noses poking out.
10/10
Effing incompetent nurse stabbed me with a hypodermic, then insisted she could go forward with injecting medication into my baby. Why would she need to sterilize or replace it?
On the one hand you’re 1000% right but man it must’ve sucked so much ass being a nurse during COVID, I probably would’ve been close to snapping 24/7.
man it must’ve sucked so much ass being a nurse during COVID
Hands down, no question. It was still the early days, april 2020, so I am a bit less forgiving than later in 2020. Nurses already got the short end of the medical stick even before covid
this instance was just particularly memorable.
I’m in a med lab program and they talk so much shit about nurses in our lectures (no offence). They even hire actors and we do conflict resolution exercises like phoning an exhausted nurse to let her know her third draw just got rejected and they need another sample or order of draw problems ect…
Don’t they have a lot of male nurses where you are? Maybe because it’s Seattle and a big town, but my parents in a smallish town had them too.
I’m in Toronto and just wrapping up my program so I can’t really comment on that but I personally know a few male and female nurses.
In practice you figure out which nurses are what kind of idiot and cling to the ones who are competent. The upside to the dumb ones is they never figure out why the new girl and the woman looking at retirement get more hours and are specifically called so often.
…HIPAA has one P.
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Only one P in HIPAA actually. Common mistake. https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/php/resources/health-insurance-portability-and-accountability-act-of-1996-hipaa.html
Yeah it’s probably time to sleep… But the memes!
Don’t feel too bad, I once had a ticket come across my desk for HIPPO violations. It took half the day to figure out what they were talking about.
Moo deng noooooooo!
HIPPO violations? You’d think those websites would be blocked by the firewall.
Oh nooo, was the hippo OK?
What if the patient is a health care CEO who is known for denying health care to others?
Make sure to leave out the patient name and occupation when filling out the healthcare paperwork to see if they are covered for whatever procedures they need.
Hippocratic Oath. So you turn off their life support obviously
I would still help them, I may stab right after tho.
Oh I’m sorry, I can’t seem to find the vein. Gosh, have you been drinking enough fluids?
Definitely treat them. Really enthusiastically. And let everyone else in the building, perhaps people whose inaurance is fucking them, know what room it’s in. Obviously stay on hand to make sure nobody gets any mortal injuries. Bill it extra for every part of that. Do not let your patient die. Dying us bad; think of everything left in the world for your patient to do!
This is a happy fantasy. I wish doctors were this cool.
This is the way.
Same answer to both; cowardly traditionalist afraid to speak their minds.
From traditional/conservative families which value the status of being a doctor, not the “helping patients” part. Prejudiced.
This.
There are so, so many doctors who ended up in the profession merely for the prestige.
Doctors aren’t smarter than everyone else, they just had the resources to be able to study for more years.
On a similar vein, I don’t understand doctors who are young earth creationists. Your whole job is understanding biology.
In the 90s I had two different doctors tell me they would not see me as long as I was sexually active. Things seem better these days but its part of the reason us older gays are loathe to disclose to our doctors.
Damn straight. Same thing for pharmacists or any other health official.
And then everybody clapped.
Or move to Tennessee.
They want doctors who hurt the people they don’t like.
Tennessee has some of the worst health care rankings and health care outcomes in the country.
When I lived there we had hospitals that were “no-go’s”. I was looking to get a surgery done, and everyone I worked with told me not to go to $hospital_X, but instead go to $hospital_Y instead.
This culture war nonsense has ruined us. In a humane world a person should be embarrassed and shamed for saying something like ‘what if I don’t feel comfortable with their lifestyle’ - in ANY situation, not to mention a medical one. How about just some basic human decency? What about live and let live? Ideas that we’d all want for ourselves but somehow some of us find it so difficult to afford to others.
And before anyone comes at me with some ‘paradox of tolerance’ nonsense - no, in the tolerant world I dream of, there is no room for the intolerant. We cannot tolerate the intolerant if we want to live in a tolerant world.
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Isn’t this like a decade old at this point?
I wish memes were properly sourced…
Seems it’ll remain relevant for another decade, at least, possibly more
And sadly never been more relevant.
This is almost assuredly a false narrative being introduced to make it seem like professors and schools are having to deal with some “flood of LGBTQ+ patients” who the new healthcare professionals suddenly have to deal with.
Just because the message seems positive, doesn’t mean it’s serving positive goals.
When I go to a hospital I really hope the doctor is fully focused on getting me better, not my gender, looks, or whether or not I’d like to suck dick.
what goal does it serve in your opinion?
Normalizes the notion that it’s normal at all to say things like “What if we don’t feel comfortable around X” when most of liberal America is fine or uncaring at worst. Of course a professor will dismiss the question, it shouldn’t be seen as something exceptional, it’s not heroic to tell an idiot to shut up. It’s continuing the atomization of ideologies. I don’t even care if it’s something that really happened, this kind of shit is used by both sides to ramp up hysteria. But I guess that ship has long since sailed.
If you haven’t spent time actively reading and understanding how the right thinks, talks and shares with each other in their own online spaces, you will think it’s ridiculous, so I don’t know why I tried to pass the message along here in these very sheltered communities. Maybe it will give someone something to think about.
I mean it is normal to want to discuss anything. I think one of the main problems of today is actually we can’t discuss anything for more than five minutes before someone gets lynched. But that is also because there are so many people that “discuss” stuff in bad faith that everyone else has probably lost faith in discussions.
On the issue of hysteria and normalizing stuff, in the span of a six months the US degraded from being the center of many branches of science and tech to a country that redacts its articles to censor words like transmission (because it contains trans, yea) and gender. I don’t think you can call it hysteria when it is really happening and has become the new normal.
“you will think it’s ridiculous”
I will think what is ridiculous? This event described in the meme? I find it worrying that someone gets so uncomfortable that he or she can’t treat a person based on their sexual and or gender orientation. On the other hand everyone has their limits and being a doctor is hard and perhaps it really is not for that person or he or she can’t deal with this. And this goes for both sides. You may be very liberally minded doctor but what happens when a wounded person they bring to the hospital turns out to be someone who raped a child? It is fucking brutal. If you can’t even make it past sexual orientation, how the fuck are you going to deal with such stuff?
Did they discussed treating an old orange pedophile?
It’s interesting that no one wants to deny medical care for:
- murderers
- pedophiles
- thieves
- corrupt politicians
Student: B-but what if I can’t stand the sight of blood!?
That would be like if you were in IT and had a phobia of keyboards…. or screens.
Ooh I love this analogy! And LTBT+++ would be “but I don’t like users with trackballs instead of a mouse”
It’s absurd.
BRB claiming disability
Edit: or I would be back if that didn’t blow my cover
Republicans: we hereby decree that physicians needing to see blood is part of the woke agenda. Henceforth we will be removing this requirement from all curricula.
Blood is a hoax created by the liberal media.
Federal Directive 774B-2: In all official documents the word “blood” shall be replaced by “God’s life-giving fluid”.
This would never fly in today’s era. Nor should it.
But about two decades ago I dated a gastroenterologist… I think she had around 13 years of schooling.
Anyways, her first day of med school, they made the entire class watch gay porn. Like vicious, graphic, excessively graphic gay porn.
With of course the professor saying if this makes you uncomfortable, you’d best find a new track. Because you ain’t going to make it, this is going to be your life: assholes, boils, pus, cancer, shit, piss, if you’re going to be a gastroenterologist you’re going to have your head up people’s asses your whole career…
Etc
And then there were those who got a rock-hard boner and wondered for a completely different reason if this career was for them.
Lol
Apparently this was not boner porn nor wap porn.
By the retelling, its was nailing balls to a step stool kind of porn.
Ah, I remember that one. 96 was a crazy year!
Germans itt be like… vanilla ball-nailing pr0n… yawn
Well, there’s always
Wtf 😂
Wonder if there were any jars involved…that would be a pretty unfortunate situation.
This would never fly in today’s era. Nor should it.
I believe we already have individual states that allow health care providers to refuse care based on their religious beliefs.
So unfortunately, it seems to be flying alright.
Pretty sure they were speaking in reference to the anecdote they were about to relay.
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what about uniformed nazis or uniformed zionists?
I am an orderly that was in surgical services and we had a young girl covered in nazi tattoos that came in for surgery. We had to care for her the same as anyone else. Of course we all talked mad shit after that anesthesia kicked in.
I agree there. The talkin shit after is where the “fun” happens. Because yeah. We have to treat but that doesn’t mean we need to not process what we just went through.
“So who can I refuse treatment to?”
“That’s the neat part. You don’t.”
never have refused. never will.
But do u think its important that u retain the right to? Even if you don’t intend to use it.
the right to refuse providing life saving service to someone? even if I consider the person no longer a human because they chose to become a nazi?
not an actual right. if you can’t provide it, to everyone, even people who disgust you, you’re in the wrong industry.
Interesting so you would feel obligated to save Hitlers life from an injury that would be fatal without ur intervention?
reductio ad absurdum.
the guy having a heart attack by the mcdonalds with nazi tattoos is a nazi. not the same as literal hitler. still an inhuman piece of shit. still worthless. still required to provide care. not the target of a worldwide multinational military operation requiring millions of russians to take berlin.
reductio ad absurdum.
I don’t think so. If you do not retain the right to refuse service you must save Hitlers life. Given that the logic leads us to this ultimatum u must choose save Hitlers life ur retain the right to refuse service based on personal moral views.
