Yes. Yes we do.
Iq is no measurement of objective intelligence! Fuck you mcdonald crossword doing cuck!
Somebody failed the test
Physically not possible to fail them, go get another puzzle
Apparently ultra-high-IQ people like to use comma splices too.
Comma splices are good!
Probably a language thing too. In German, for example, comma splices are grammatically correct.
, The, more, commas, you, use, the, better,
You other brothers can’t deny it
I wouldn’t believe their supposedly high IQ otherwise.
if anyone wants the link https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/mensa/comments/1ci8rdx/do_ultra_high_iq_people_like_big_booty_latinas/
Don’t we all?
as someone who qualifies for mensa but like, i ain’t paying a subscription fee to be in the smart people club, that sounds really dumb (and also IQ testing is sketchy at best to begin with)
yes, i always appreciate a big booty, on any ethnicity or gender, so latinas are indeed included
Exactly! Mensa is essentially the filter for people who think they’re smart but actually aren’t.
People at the peak Dunning-Kruger point of intelligence - just above average intelligent enough to feel they’re “above” most people but not enough to properly understand the full nature of intelligence and its limits.
I took their online test out of curiosity and it said I was qualified to join. It was interesting to figure out the mechanism of it though.
From what I gathered, it seems what they’re really measuring is your capacity for pattern recognition and association or something along those lines.
I was curious too. I heard that online test didn’t mean shit, so I did an “official” Mensa Test and well, trust me, you don’t want to join.
following is a summary of a real conversation that I witnessed:
A parent sought advice, their child would fake being sick to avoid school within the first 2 weeks of the first school year. After some conversation, the parent expresses 2 opinions, 1. that they think their child gets bullied and 2. That the child couldn’t express themself well enough to communicate what the issue is. So they just assumed that their child gets bullied, because if my child would tell me that their classmates are mean, I would call that express themself quite well for that age. Then in the conversation, they talk about how they thought their child how to write and read. So they are wondering why their child doesn’t want to go to school after their child was forced to sit in a chair for hours, being taught the alphabet for hours that the child already knew. I wonder 🤔 can someone here tell us why the child doesn’t want to sit in a chair for hours, writing down the same letter again and again as practice for something that they are already able to do? Does someone know?
They really couldn’t figure that one out.
paying a subscription
Waat (screaming in a low iq)
there’s a yearly membership fee
Mensa is for people smart enough to qualify, but dumb enough to get scammed.
Get scammed? I pay the yearly couple of euros mainly for access to the discussion groups. Sometimes I scroll and notice the dumbest shit and every single time it’s a post from a non-mensa group dirtying up my feed. There really is a noticable difference.
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This place is similar due to how niche is it. You won’t see your dumb neighbour or loud relative here. The discussion topics are mostly the same as anywhere else, it’s just that you won’t get the type of comments that makes you sigh and scroll faster.
Imagine stack overflow on steroids.
Well, yeah. But with a pleasant, welcoming tone. And very seldom about programming.
yearly couple of euros
Ok, that’s sensible
IQ testing as many other things, has racist origins and is for all intents and purposes quite useless imo
In the process of diagnosing ADHS (dyslexia, other) disabilities, a IQ test is used to establish a baseline of what other people with a similar result can and cannot do and this is compared to what you can and cannot do.
IQ tests do have uses.
Yup, just like BMI. It’s useful for things and the doctors are aware it isn’t perfect but that’s not what the general population thinks.
“BMI is useless if you have a lot of muscle weight” - Guy with a lot of fat weight
Literally. I’ve had this happen, and then he proceeded to claim that obesity as a concept was not real. 💀
“I’m not fat, I just have a lot of adipose tissue.”
People are allergic to nuance.
dang, i wish they did that for my adhd diagnosis, because i kept looking normal on my tests and had to go on a manhunt to find a doctor who has adhd as well, so they could just vibe check me (and i did, but before that i spent a lot of money on futile tests)
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Haha I always thought that people running mensa are the real geniuses for basically selling self-esteem
I don’t think there is a correlation in either directed but I’m happy to be proven wrong
As a big booty latino I feel both interested and offended by this.
Also, don’t take our big booty latinas pls. We need them for <reasons>.
I’m still wondering what mensa means… I thought it was a like a flat hill.
Mesa is a flat hill.
Mensa describes itself as a “High IQ Society”. Essentially, anyone who scores well on an IQ test can join, and they have plaques, membership cards, and such they give out. As far as I know, the whole point of Mensa is to say you’re smart enough to be in Mensa.
Ah, never bothered taking an IQ test, seemed like a waste of time. Thanks for the response!
mensa actually means dumb in spanish!
I think it means table.
Go find yourself an IQ 300 mensa nerd. They need you
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
As a past member of Mensa, sure.
No, high iq people like big tiddy latinas.
I’ll consider this an IQ test and apply for Mensa
Perfection
Thicc latinas
I wish I could remember the story but there was a guy that joined Mensa so he could con people. It worked too which rather seems to suggest that the entry requirements are not all that stringent.
Isn’t mensa sort of a con itself?
IQ testing, arguably. Mensa is a social club that wants nerds to fuck nerds and make nerd babies
I think their entry requirements are doing exactly what they’re supposed to.
The problem is that intelligence, even if we could measure it correctly, doesn’t and shouldn’t imply what a person knows, nor their experiences and the wisdom that they carry.
Someone can be learned with a low IQ. Someone can be wise and similarly low IQ. In the same way, someone with a high IQ can be unwise.
The problem with having only one individual metric for a group which believes themselves to compose the smartest people, is that they’re arrogant. I know plenty of people who are so extremely intelligent that I am certain that they could be a part of Mensa; yet, they are not. When they looked into it, they decided it would be unwise to become a member, given the requirements and the attitudes of, and about, the group.
Hell, there’s a decent chance I could get in. I’ve never tried and I don’t care to, for all the same reasons, so I would never know if I could “make it” or not.
Their arrogance and hubris is their undoing.
Mensa is for people who grew up in gifted programs being told that they will achieve greatness just because of the one test they scored hight on, and then they amounted to nothing, so they need a place where they can tell each other that they are unsuccessful only because they are so much smarter than everyone else around them.
High IQ people who manage to do something with their life usually have more to be proud of than an IQ test they took decades ago.
Or IQ is a useless measure
IQ is absolute nonsense that tells you literally nothing about intelligence or anything of the like.
It’s a very good measure if you want to predict how well people will do on IQ tests.
It gives you a good indication of their mental speed and memory.
It is poor at measuring specific abilities or wisdom.
Thank you for your expertise, @WorldsDumbestMan
Unironically had to do a lot of (sloppy) research to try and treat myself.
Don’t let you convince yourself of something just because you want to believe it’s true. IQ is not an objective measurement of intelligence, but it isn’t completely useless either.
It’s worse than useless. It tells you literally nothing about anything, plus idiots think it’s meaningful.
IQ is a rough measure of short and long term memory, pattern recognition, and reasoning ability. Naturally as a single number its predictive power is limited in the face of the broad range of human abilities, but given a high enough sample size it clearly correlates with several meaningful things.
Even accepting only the most clear correlation-- that performance on an IQ test predicts performance on future IQ tests-- to claim that this correlation is useless is to claim that there is no other activity performed by humans which is sufficiently similar to an IQ test, which is clearly not true.
If you’re going to have feelings this strong about the subject, you should do some more reading on it. Your view that IQ isn’t some absolute measure of human value is correct, but you should understand how and why if you’re going to go in depth about it.
“Feelings this strong” lmao it’s like you all read out of the “worthless reddit dumbfuck book” or something. My balls are a sample size, son. That’s my IQ.
Real biting retort. I’m taking notes as we speak.
I can only say I’m disappointed.
Well, it helped me understand why people would very regularly not understand apparently simple stuff I explained. This happened on so many topics with so many people it was very frustrating.
I don’t think that makes them lesser than me or me better than them (the people not understanding)… It just means I had and still have to work on adapting my messaging to my audience ← and that is something that everybody regardless of IQ should do.
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Or computational intelligence isn’t the same thing as skepticism
… Or wisdom.
Or everyone is vulnerable to con games
And over-identifying woth it is something arrogant shit heads who are easy to con do.
Unlike me. I’m better than that.
Wpuld you like to join my new society of people who are two smart to show off their IQ? You get a cool badge you can show people
Obviously.
Im in!
Do you remember how that con was supposed to work?
It was in an article about the real life incidents that influenced Terry Pratchett in the discworld series. So the con itself probably took place in the '80s or '90s, so quite a while ago. I can’t really remember if the article itself went into any details but I ended up looking into it myself because I thought it was funny that people in Mensa had been conned.
I think it was some sort of timeshare scheme. The guy managed to sell timeshares in a property he didn’t in fact own, not a very sophisticated con really. The utter geniuses didn’t demand evidence that he actually owned the property before handing over cash.
I took a trip down the rabbit hole and tried to find any evidence - there is none. Even though this was happening before the www really took off there should be evidence on the net. A story hilarious as that would never die and would also be used as a warning against timeshare scams.
I don’t think mensa members are immune to scams, but timeshare? Even the legit ones are scammy IMO.
A reddit mod for a mensa sub sounds like possible the most insufferable combination imaginable
And yet, their comment was on point. Maybe its like w double negative
If you happened to have an unusually high IQ, why you would you choose to join Mensa, or be a moderator on Reddit for that matter?
The smartest thing you can do is obfuscate your level of intelligence, not brag about it. That’s just how you end up doing more work and getting blamed by everyone around you.
Obfuscate your intelligence? Being a reddit mod sounds like it’s part of the plan, then.
Oh snap, you’re right. It’s like a 200 IQ move. 😂
As far as I can tell, most people out there have expectations about high IQ people which are straight out of Hollywood films and wholly unrealistic, so best just leave then with whatever de facto impression of brightness they have about you than mention a number and trigger the “Mental Superman” expectations.
Also going around parading your IQ falls straight into the rule “the more a person brags about some great personal quality, the less strong it is” - if you’re really that bright, brave, strong, beautiful, confident and so on, there is no need to mention it since it’s generally obvious to others.
Also going around parading your IQ falls straight into the rule “the more a person brags about some great personal quality, the less strong it is”
Or it’s your only quality. The main reason to join Mensa is that you haven’t accomplished anything better since the IQ test you took as a youth.
As I see it, that’s both a problem of low self-confidence and passiveness (or maybe underdeveloped values).
For the first, we all have several qualities, but people often don’t recognize or value certain qualities, especially people driven mainly by what they think others value and hence who end up valuing pretty much just the qualities modern Society focuses on - namely Wealth, Beauty and Brains - which is a typical low self-confidence thing.
For the rest, as I see it, having some inherent quality that one was born with isn’t exactly something deserving of much pride because it’s not something one did anything to achieve. If that much one’s parents deserve the recognition for the “achievement”, though they didn’t actually do it on purpose, so maybe not even them. Having pride in being born with a high IQ makes about as much sense as having pride in being born in a rich family: it’s masturbatory ego stroking about one’s luck rather than a celebration of one’s successes.
That’s pretty much what I mean. If the thing one the most proud of is a high IQ, then that person probably doesn’t have a lot going for them.
Eh, intelligence is fluid and the whole concept of a single IQ score is broken. Someone with a high IQ can be real-world dumb and someone bad at school math can become a genious engineer. And both can be equally good or bad at politics. It’s all just skills. What matters is mental flexibility (how well you halves are connected) and a healthy image of self and others.
As long as you try to keep a flexible viewpoint and to experience new things now and then, you’re doing more for your skull muscle than most.
Edit: ok, training your visual-conceptual imaginative power seems to be beneficial overall.
