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Modern woke trek. No I’m not old it just came out…30 you say
edit: @ummthatguy wasn’t being pedantic, I dylexia’d the maths and edited from 20 to 30 about the same time they commented.
Try 31 years for this episode…

Aaand now I’m sad. And tired.
I love how this meme glazes over the incredibly shit writing of NuTrek, or how the social presented in NuTrek are incredibly safe topics already popular on social media, instead of the some of the very controversial things that Trek has done in the past.
The most controversial thing NuTrek does is being hated by anyone who actually understands Trek, and attracting a lot of tourists.
I’m perfectly happy to ignore everything between Enterprise and SNW, except for Lower Decks. (Is there an official TLA for that?)
Three-letter acronym? No, I think people just use “LD”
LD or LDS.
LDS is what we all did too much of in the '60s.
Most of the best episodes are about debates, social issues, and general talking.
The Measure of a Man. A solid 50 minutes of mostly talking at desks. 💯
It turns out the photon torpedoes’ onboard targeting systems are sentient, now what do we do?
do they want to blow up?
It’s about 50/50.
Good, so we still have half our photon torpedoes.
We will grant their wish in the glory of battle.
The rest can go to THE FARM
The series Expeditionary Force" by Craig Alanson actually plays on this.
Spoiler to protect those who might want to read the series.
The AI Skippy, (that has befriended humanity/adopted us like puppies) upgrades the weapon systems on a captured ship. Joe Bishop, the captin of said ship, gets involved to deal with a strike by the onboard missiles. They are complete homicidal maniacs, and are actually fine with blowing up, they just want the pecking order/first dibs on targets sorted out, along with entertainment rights while waiting (karaoke night invites, from memory).
And no, after dealing with their bullshit, Joe has no issues turning the weapons into his enemies problems, very energeticly.

Star Trek, you are creating new episode,you must choose now. Will you pick :
absailing with harnesses happens
EPISODE ABOUT USING MASS DRIVERS TO SHOOT ASTEROIDS AT PLANETS WHEN
Please, no! Asteroids are a finite natural resource!
Okay chill out Cartagia

okay sorry.
edit:
FUCK THAT LET’S CRASH TWO BROWN DWARFS INTO EACH OTHER AND SEE IF IT MAKES NEW COLORS
Hot green dancing girls have entered the chat…
People have been dumbed down in those 50 years.
People are on high alert for “ideological content” sneaking into their entertainment. Especially Conservative Americans. They slept on the increasing representation of minority groups in fiction, and then all of a sudden, WHAM – a Black president. BAM – gay marriage! Now they’re so paranoid they won’t believe you when you tell them there’s a rainbow in the Bible.
I feel like it is a bit more nuanced. Yes TOS was forward leaning on race issues. But it was conservative in other areas such as pro-Vietnam War (as seen in the conclusion of “Private Little War”) and anti-hippie (as seen in “Way to Eden”). Today’s Trek is much more liberal overall when you look at it taken as a whole IMHO.
Every hippie I’ve ever met has been a racist piece of shit. Hippies were anti war, anti draft privileged children of upper middle class white families. Free love, as long as it was heteronormative, drugs for everybody, as long as they’re white.
It’s not surprising that Trek didn’t embrace that movement.
Steve Jobs was a hippie. He changed the world. The counter culture played a big part in the invention of the personal computer. Trek rejected this aspect of the 60’s era free thought, and embraced the more conservative Nixon silent majority view. Pretty far from social justice IMHO.
Steve Jobs was a hippie.
Steve Jobs was a fucking moron.
Touche. Your erudite scholarship wins the day yet again.
Ok. Steve Jobs was an effective leader, who made some fatally stupid decisions, was so hard to work with he got fired for being an asshole more than once, and blatantly lied about the fathership of his own child because he didn’t feel like being a father. When literally everybody knew he was the only person that even could be the father, including Jobs himself.
When did it become so dog shit at tackling social issues?
Do you hear that whisper in the wind?
watch the orville
Hell there’s been three explicitly trek homage storylines where it’s blown TNG out of the water
(TNG eps Outcast, hollow pursuits and in theory)
Which one of you mf’s is ashamed to call themselves a Social Justice Warrior?

“I’ll protect you, fair maiden!”
“Sorry, neither.”
The 1969 episode “Let That Be Your Last Battlefield” is a good example.
And, like, every episode with Uhura, Sulu, or even Chekov in it.
Hey, it’s a The Good Place meme in the wild!
I started watching Discovery and Strange New Worlds recently. Honestly while it seems they are at least not so blatantly sexist as they used to be, in other ways, it seems like the newer shows are less political than the old ones. It’s almost like a hybrid between classic Star Trek, and the Star-Wars-in-Star-Trek-Clothing movies that JJ Abrams made.
I like em though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah, they’re very watered down by liberal ideology. It’s supposed to be gay space communism
Except that last season of SNW and its shudders eugenics. No idea what the fuck was up with that
The real question is why they stopped and what the fuck SNW Season 3 is supposed to be
They stopped because Star Trek is a tent pole series for Paramount online or whatever they are calling their streaming service now.
They need to broaden the appeal and old trek doesn’t speak to the lowest common denominator.
The lowest common denominator fuck up a lot of stuff.
There have been entertainment execs who championed the notion that the common viewer is smarter than they’re given credit for, and that deep down they want to be challenged. (I don’t have the sources in front of me, but think of Norman Lear and Jim Brooks, and so on.)
The LCD is certainly a concern, but I really think today’s entertainment industry has become too spineless, too cynical, and too dismissive of their customers’ intelligence.
It’s like those guys who say one piece isn’t political. Are we even reading the same thing? I guess we all interact with media differently

Whenever someone says One Piece is political, I have to wonder what makes them say that.
Like. … There are way too many reasons to pick from, I don’t know which one you’re thinking of.
There is a Dax joke someone could make here.
Lucille Ball helped get Star Trek going … it was ALWAYS meant to be forward thinking.