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This take is a first for me. Would you mind elaborating?
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And yet the other 90% of people will still be stuck with it.
All I need is some hardware creators to make dual OS apps for Linux and we will be golden
They already do. They are called PWAs.
Agentic, I fucking hate this word.
It’s only meaning is to management, and is some kind of horseshit way of saying “less employees to pay”
Words for it already exist. Its whole purpose is marketing and AI fart huffing.
So, you’re just wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_agent
An “agent” is specific a type of software that long predates LLMs and this go-round of AI hype.
One example of an agent is a computer program that reads log data of another program and forwards the log data to a log management server. Another example of an agent is an LLM chatbot that can perform actions on its own.
Not all agents are chatbots, and not all chatbots are agents.
I never said agent is a new word, but thanks for telling me I’m wrong.
Assistive, aid, helpful are all words that could be used in place of the word agentic. It feels inauthentic and fluffy because it is.
I’ve never heard of agentic before because it is novel word marketing bullshit. Like IoT before it and many others, words existed to explain the technology in plain language but industry gargon takes hold and isn’t interrogated for being cold, non-inclusive and confusing.
The wikipedia article that I already linked is another example that proves that you are wrong.
The article has existed since January 14 2004: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Software_agent&oldid=2149104 here is the very first version of the wikipedia article on Software agents, which does not even mention AI and lists software like a mail transfer agent or software daemons.
The fact that you’ve never heard of it before does not make it a novel word. Unless you define “novel” as a technical term that has been in use since the early 1970s… 🙄
https://www.research.ed.ac.uk/en/publications/process-a-mathematical-model-of-computing-agents/
^ published 1975.
Process: A mathematical model of computing agents
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Bruh slow down on the “ahktually” and read what you’re putting out there lmao
Lol. The word “agentic” has been used since 1864. https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=agentic&year_start=1800&year_end=2025
You’re wrong.
Technological speak isn’t colloquial every day language. Other industries simply aren’t taken to forcing industry terms into the general populace.
Use of the word agentic in everyday language is novel and marketing intentful.
Just because I say with peers that a leaf is cordate, sinistrose, and estipulate with a hirsute abaxial surface doesn’t mean anyone in science journalism will use those terms. They use colloquial language like the leaf is heart-shaped, spirally arranged, without a stem, and with small hairs on the underside because these terms make broad sense to the public.
It’s novel but not wrong. Plenty of technical terms have inserted themselves into our language over time. I can think of bandwidth and logistics at the top of my head. Catalyst feels very technical as well. Logistics started as military jargon and is brought over from French.
Just thought of Segway as well. Not sure if it started as technical jargon but it’s definitely some weird bastardization.
So, let me make sure I understand your position, you’re mad that people are correctly using a technical term that has existed for over 50 years and think they should use a different word because you personally did not know that word before? Okie dokie. 🤷
Would you rather we just call every type of software an “app”?
I’ve never heard of agentic before
Because it was an idea floating around before but it never worked out and they never spoke about it afterwards.
The OP’s thread you are entering into is talking about the word agenetic.
Yes, that is correct. Glad we are on the same page
See even autocorrect from the very companies shovelling it down our throats can’t get it right because it is a fake novel marketing word.
“So you’re just wrong” says the guy who doesn’t understand that “agent” and “agentic” are different words. One is a real word you can find in a dictionary with a long history of use. The other one is a neologism obviously referencing and created out of the other word, using a tortured conjugation process that only a marketer could love. We’re talking about the latter word while you’re busy defending the former word. They’re not the same word.
Welp, you tried! https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=agentic&year_start=1800&year_end=2025 the word “agentic” has been in use since 1864. Just wrong.
So has the word “schmoo”, however, we don’t find it in widespread enough use to be considered part of normal language.
Relevance? What does that prove?
Seems like now you’re just upset that a concept that has existed for over 50 years is becoming popular and commonly used.
Agentic, I fucking hate this word.
It joins ‘the ask’ and ‘the spend’ and ‘action this’ as words people use to sound trendy and smart. It’s the surest sign someone went from Used Cars to I.T sales in their career, and should be heard with similar mistrust.
If your peers use these - heck, if they use ‘emails’, pluralizing the mass noun - just laugh at them like you got their absurdist attempt to lampoon one of these people so they can learn how ridiculous they sound. Help your friends.
You really, unironically, say “I received 10 email today” and think it’s other people who sound stupid?
Lol imagine judging others’ competency from insignificant grammatical nitpicks that you’re not even correct about… ironic!
The person I am replying to has a consistent history of snobbish prescriptivism and disrespect for anyone who doesn’t follow what they think is the correct version of the rules of life.
I’ve seen this attitude before, especially with how things are pronounced, like saying “Ess Cue Ell” instead of “Sequel” means that you don’t really know SQL. Or saying “Enn Jinx” instead of “Engine X” means you don’t have real experience with Nginx. It’s just nonsense.
Agreed.
I do my part by pronouncing each acronym differently than my immediate peers.
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Exactly this. Used to work in for profit corporate offices and this was my experience for nearly two decades. The imbeciles trying to sound important used trendy corpo speak and got nothing else done timely or well.
Since you’re ignoring me, here’s some bait: what’s your specific citation for your prescriptivist rule that “email” is a singular and plural noun by divine definition?
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I’m one decent hard drive away from a full-blown Linux switch, but $60-$100 is $60-$100 since dual-boot is apparently suboptimal, which I can’t abide.
dual-boot is only suboptimal because MS actively fucks with grub.
at least that’s how it was for me back in the day.
I figured out a solution though. don’t dual-boot, and run Linux directly.
I just can’t immediately pull the plug on my Windows setup. I still need it accessible due to various custom stuff that’d take a long time to duplicate over to Linux.
I understand what you mean, but the longer you hold onto that stuff the longer you have to put up with their abusive shit.
I did the same thing, except I kept a full second device for windows. one day, I just stopped using it and didn’t realize it until I couldn’t remember the last time I used it.
good luck.
If you’re stuck on windows, you should know, the new version of O&O ShutUp will help you delete copilot off your system.
Cheers.
I was given a macbook at programming work and honestly, the battery life sold me on it.
And with that Steam Cube thing, I can’t imagine anything Microsoft in my house.
Steam Cube thing
I saw someone call it the Valve GabeCube and I can’t unsee it now, lol
Dbrand got it right with the companion cube skin. Valve totally missed that opportunity.
GabeCube is what I’m calling it forever, now. That’s great.
I don’t think I’ll get one (I have 2 Decks, a dock, and a gaming ex-Windows now CachyOS PC) but I’m excited for the controller. Couch play sucks without touchpads on so many games. Steam Input even makes games with massive numbers of keybinds work great; with nested radial menus, you can have hundreds of commands on 'em.
Some of the arm based windows laptops, and even the newer x86 windows laptops, get pretty good battery life these days too. In my personal life, I have both an arm based MacBook and windows laptop. Both get similar battery life. I do wish there was an easy way to get Linux running on the windows laptop though.
At work it’s usually all the corporate… bloat/security stuff that kills windows. I recently made the work switch to a MacBook and the difference is night and day.
Blue checkmarks fund Nazis. It’s these fuckheads pushing Ai slop onto us.
These days I only ever log into windows to play one game. And I put that game as the windows wallpaper so it sits as a reminder as the only one thing windows is required for.
If that game ever becomes Linux playable or I grow tired of it or it becomes obsolete I’m ridding myself of Microsoft for good. I will never even consider playing another game that will not play on Linux. Any game in my wish list that I found cannot be played on Linux is immediately tossed so I never have to touch windows again.
Everything else: work, all other games, dealing with my life stuff, projects: all fedora. FOSS rules. The transition was easier than I thought it was going to be. No one drive or any of that $hit for me. And I also get to keep my old server. <3
What’s the game?
Tom Clancy Usually r6
Div2 also but all the other TC I have turned out to be Linux compliant.
I heard destiny 2 is also not Linux compliant (I got bored of it though so it’s no longer in my list) all because bungie are fiercely against Linux.
But these games are getting old and phasing out so …onto Linux!
Windows 11 not running on my old computer made me hold out just long enough until Recall hit and it made me decide to not use it in my new one. I’ve been using Arch (CachyOS technically) for about a year now.
Almost all actual users hate this. Unfortunately, it is corporate customers that buy the majority of Windows licenses, and those C-levels gobble up that shit like there was no tomorrow…
Who is Pavan Davuluri?
I’ll do you one better.
When is Pavan Daviluri?
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It’s beyond “nobody asked for this.” People are actively saying “this is bad, I want not this.”
Fuckssake I need Windows to stay usable for my work…
I’ll stay with Win10 for another 3 years and see what the landscape looks like then 👀
Please Adobe and Hoyoverse, implement Linux support pronto.
I have switched last year and Hoyoverse works without problems (using Steam).
Wait, Genshin specifically? I heard some other Hoyo games might work. I found a Linux launcher on Github, but even they said it carried a ban risk.
Genshin specifically. Used to run it on Lutris, but the new anti-cheat they have would kill it if it’s not run through Steam on Linux. Quite sure they want to keep it running on the deck, it seems like the perfect platform for this kind of games (don’t have the steam deck though, so don’t quote me on that).
Hmm thanks.
Quite sure they want to keep it running on the deck, it seems like the perfect platform for this kind of games
I don’t find that likely, since they don’t have Genshin on the Steam store, only on the Epic Store (that’s how I run it so I can count my playtime).
Yes, but their “main competition” is (WuWa), and when they enabled their anti-cheat for Genshin that broke the game on Linux, they specifically coded a check to keep the game running though Steam (at least this is what people smarter than me says).
Thanks, good to know!
Aside from Quicken: Nursing Home Edition, I don’t see much keep people on windows anymore. Only one user of mine still uses windows and it’s because quicken (and he thinks only poor people use free software)
Adobe won’t ever allow Linux, I’m sure they have some contract.woth Microsoft about this (wouldn’t be the first time I’ve seen that)
Also, obligatory FUCK EVERYTHING ABOUT ADOBE here. We just now setup pihole to improve office security slightly and FFS, Adobe is making it impossible with their 10.000 domains they’re using. I’ve added countless exceptions already and still can’t get Adobe services to run remotely reliable
Yeah, I hate Adobe’s business practices, but for my needs their software is sadly still quite ahead of the FLOSS alternatives.
Leave Micro-Star International out of gnite
