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      The book was confirmed ghost-written. He didn’t even write that shit. There is no art of the deal.

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    I miss presidents (and administration members) that, yes, would spin, but would also respectfully (and coherently) state their arguments and cases to the press.

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      This is what people voted for, precisely because they are tired of politicians who lie and spin. Wanting those in positions of power to “tell it like it is” comes from a genuine place of frustration to the democratic process.

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        But they aren’t telling it like it is. They just insult and harass you for asking anything that questions their rule.

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          I don’t disagree, but if the often excuse of “our hands are tied” in actuality means “we don’t give a fuck about you”, voters feel they might as well vote for the person who never even pretends to care to begin with. It’s a sign of voter apathy and loss of trust in the system.

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            You’re giving them way too much credit. They like Trump because his vocabulary consists of words a fifth grader would use, so they can actually listen to him without feeling completely lost and out of their depth (note: they’re still completely lost and out of their depth). There’s also a large subset of voters who treat politics like football and wouldn’t ever vote against their team.

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        They wished for honesty instead of pretty words. Instead they voted for badly worded lies. Definitely not an improvement over anything. At least you could bring retort to pretty words. This buffoon just turns into a child.

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          There is so much voter apathy. Voters don’t care anymore if the representatives-- who is supposed to represent them-- don’t care to begin with. Why vote for someone who keeps pretending, when you can elect someone authentic for better or worse?

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            Don’t want to eat poop? Why not vomit?

            The fact that you’re continuing this point makes me feel like you’re an apologist to this administration. Do you feel that trading in a bad thing for an equally bad thing is progression? I would argue that it doesn’t matter why people have decided to vote in the way of Trump, it matters a lot what will happen after his term ends. Bringing the perspective of “Voters are just apathetic to the current system “ doesn’t bring into focus the real issues the country is grappling with. It is about lack of education, lack of resources, and people who are too distracted trying to survive, they cannot dedicate true cognitive function to much else. If you want to ignore all the systemic suppression and abuse- then yes; let’s focus on the more pressing matter, the fact that politicians come across as uncaring spin doctors.

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              I actually smirk everytime someone says I am being an apologist for making dispassionate analysis on a situation. It’s not apologia, it’s diagnosing a symptom. Voting for a crude politician is a protest vote on the false high brow-ing on the masses and sophistry of meanstream politicians, who always make up bureaucratic reasons not to actually do what their constituents want. It’s an implicit message on the politicians to do a better job on the issues you mentioned.

              If you talk to many right wing voters, they are pretty articulate and smart, and actually agree on many left wing policies. Someone mentioned before that by his/her estimation, of the ten Trump voters he/she know, about four like Bernie Sanders. The real cause of the problem is class issue and voters want someone outside the status quo. Bernie and Trump are those options, but we know who won and favoured more by vested interests. At least the left is learning its lessons now with the rise of Mamdani.

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                Yes, and historically smart and articulate people aren’t subject to manipulation and propaganda.

                You will be smirking for the rest of your life; because you are absolutely an apologist. The whataboutism doesn’t mean you are pinpointing a cause, it means you have acknowledged A cause. Unfortunately this world is rife with many people like you, who by making excuses for powerful and dangerous people feel as if it now follows the logic of life. I’m sure that plenty of people under the third reich also had justifications like this.

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                  What I’m saying is nothing new. Political analysts including Zizek are saying the exact same thing. The implicit message of the analysis is for the politicians to listen to electorate and do a better job, and for the electorate themselves to hold their politicians more accountable, and stop marginalising the working class disaffected by outsourcing.

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      I mean, name calling is literally the very bottom of Graham’s heiarchy of disagreement.

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        No no, this graphic is clearly illustrating that name calling is the foundational first step upon which the rest of the argument is built, you ass hat

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    I want someone to clap back at him, call him a fat, demented jackass. Call him a piece of shit rapist. Sure that reporter will lose their job and white house access but they will find another job right away with an opposing publication, and if they set up a go fund me they’ll be millionaires

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    Irrespective of the straight up racism and depending on his motives maybe something to be said about people willing to collaborate with the CIA though I doubt that conversation will be had.

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    Reporter, asks a specific question…

    The goddamned president of the United States of America: you’re a dumdum.

    Yep. That seems about right after everything that’s happened up to now.

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    Without looking into this I don’t know if this is an embellishment of what happened or if this is exactly what Donald said. That’s not a good sign. I fear this is exactly what was said.

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      Nah, the timing is too perfect for a personal vendetta. Trump used this event to justify his national guard occupation of DC after courts told him he didn’t present evidence of a crime problem needed to justify a state of emergency.

      The Afghani in question has a history of working for the CIA and was brought in by the Trump admin in April this year.

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    Aside the topic at hand, they are so pathetic. He is in mar a Lago and needs a desk to hide behind and that is what they come up with? A camping table with a piece Molton on it? It’s not as bad as the four seasons landscaping debacle but still pathetic.