I don’t read r/conservative much but what I’ve seen is they keep banning actual conservatives because they correctly call out what Trump is doing on things where it’s not about left and right but right and wrong.
Some people are saying that it could be coincidental. OP asks why would the two accounts who post so regularly just happen to both stop at the same time on that day.
Dude it’s such a clown show in there. I don’t think normal people even fuck with that sub anymore. The conservatives I’ve known are nothing like that. I keep going back just to tip more controversial and divisive comments towards the top tho so maybe I’m the problem
I don’t think normal people even fuck with that sub anymore.
My dude, “normal people” don’t fuck with anything the right does anymore.
All right-wingers are lead-brained troglodytes, and being right wing is fundamentally a personality and/or intellectual disorder.
I second the personality disorder thing. For me, the past few years, the right wingers have been exactly the people I expected. The worst of the worst. The meanest of the mean. The greediest of the greedy. Not once did a nice person turn out to be right-wing.
The title is misleading at best. I’m sure 30-50% of the content are bots, but the link to Moscow is… let’s say tenuous. There is no good source for a blackout in Moscow, only in a minor city (100k inhabitants) of the Moscow area called Zhukovsky according to one of the comments in the post. Russia is a country with 150 million inhabitants, searching for blackouts anywhere in the country on one event of reduced bot activity isn’t real science, and doesn’t point to any kind of causation.
Further down in the post, if you read it, you can even see OP was using problematic methodology and had to point to another post. You’re literally just going by the words of a random reddit user at this point. This is conspiracy theory level shit, guys, you can do better than this.
Edit: link to the corrected reddit post by the same user. Look at the fifth graph provided. Amazing that 350 people upvoted this conspiracy shit, you guys have a serious problem over at .world
Edit 2: @BoycottTwitter@lemmy.zip do you have anything to reply at all to this? Don’t you think your post is disinformation, or at least the title?
There are not so many things I dislike more than defending Putin’s Russia, but you’re right.
The window is too tiny to draw any sensible conclusions, even the Reddit OP admits that. Even more, the shutdown in Zhukovsky was from 11pm to 1.30 am:
The whole narrative would’ve been stronger if there was a bot farm reported in Zhukovsky independently
I tried improving it by updating the title and description. Even looking at the corrected image we still see disruptions in posting on that day and OP asked a question: why did they both happen to stop on that day despite having such regular posting habits?
You compare random events, you receive unstructured results
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_comparisons_problem
But really, we have to have something else besides this particular shutdown and the ongoing Russian disinformation campaign (which is indeed real).
You can be honest and say you have an agenda posting this because of your political opinions, but it is disinformation. Without any link to Russia other than a localized blackout in a minor city in the Moscow region (not part of Moscow, as your post implies, but Moscow Oblast), you could equally make the guess that the posters/bots were on holidays because of Halloween/Día de Muertos and didn’t make posts because of expected low engagement.
The fact that you’re trying to push a link between the two a-priori unrelated events, even if you frame it under “I’m just asking questions”, has a deliberate attempt, and my worry is not exclusively with you as a single individual doing this, but the 500 conspiracy-brained upvotes taking this shit and nothingburger to the frontpage.
to explain my downvote
You should state your opinions without making aggressive, worst-faith assumptions of others. That kind of rhetoric got this republic to this point in the first place.
Off topic, but I want to say that I appreciate you explaining your downvote. Some of the downvotes on here seem entirely senseless and definitely make one wonder, “Why would anyone downvote that?” When people explain their reasoning, not only are they contributing to Lemmy in a more constructive way, but it helps other commenters gain perspective. Thank you for adding your thoughts.
You should state your opinions without making aggressive, worst-faith assumptions of others.
“Russians control Reddit! I demand you take my assertion in good faith and be nice to me.”
Okay buddy.
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When people make disinformation campaigns, whether it was their intention or not, I will respond accordingly
Until the rubles stop coming, hey Boris?
Russia is simultaneously a shitty gas station about to collapse and just a few sanctions away, and an all-powerful entity dominating US and EU politics. Everyone who contradicts this is paid for by the state.
i think the US education system should teach about necrophilia laws so people stop sucking Joseph McCarthy’s dick
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“When people make campaigns that don’t match my agenda, I will respond accordingly”
FTFY
Are you seriously defending the contents of this post?
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Are you seriously defending Russia?
That kind of rhetoric got this republic to this point in the first place.
curious what rhetoric you mean? they just pointed out that this looks like a conspiracy theory with tenuous evidence.
the oop is attributing posting patterns changing on a US subreddit to a power outage in the middle of the night in some random city with 100k people in Russia, when it was also a holiday (Halloween) in the entire US.
i don’t think that it is aggressive to point out that this is a silly correlation that is actually disinformation when framed this way - lots of people are going to just read the title, upvote, and move on with all their predisposed biases feeling confirmed
You can be honest and say you have an agenda
you’re trying to push
just lay out the argument, I don’t have patience to read flamewar crap.
Her argument is “ruzzia good, west bad…”.
no, my argument is that this is comically tenuous evidence.
its like saying that there was a power outage in New York City because Poughkeepsie has a power outage. then concluding that it is evidence of a US troll farm because it coincided with a dip in traffic on reddit during a major holiday.
You can be honest and say you have an agenda
Cool, now you go.
My agenda is socialism, as you can see directly on my username. I’m not hiding anything. Blaming the far right autoctonous to Europe and the USA on foreigners is not realistic analysis, and so won’t reach realistic results. “Let’s close Russian disinformation” good, let’s also close western disinformation, which is vastly more prevalent and, you know, LEGAL.
why did they both happen to stop on that day despite having such regular posting habits?
One of the reddit comments has proposed a pretty simple explanation: the two profiles are the same person. Just one person’s posting habits were disrupted.
why did they both happen to stop on that day
They were the Best Man at their cousin’s wedding in Cleveland? Use your imagination. There are infinite possibilities.
You’re literally one of the biggest Russian simps on this platform, you gladly suck, swallow, and regurgitate Russian propaganda daily.
There’s a ZERO percent chance that someone as hollow as you cares about accuracy. You’re just mad that this post makes Russia look bad.
Buddy, I’m a communist. I hate the Putin regime. You haven’t talked about this in .world at all, but last week 3 communists in Russia were trialed and condemned to 12 years in jail for reading Lenin, but those are commies so you and our mass media don’t give a fuck. I have personal loved ones suffering the results of the government and the sanctions. So don’t fucking tell me I’m a Russian simp.
The thing is, unlike you, I don’t blame every cancer of the cancerous west on a foreign nation. If there had been this platform 20 years ago and you and I had been in it, you’d be calling me a Hussein simp for complaining that there’s no evidence of weapons of mass destruction. If it were 35 years ago, you’d be calling me a Kuwait simp for requesting caution when listening to Nayirah’s testimony. And now it is 2025 and you call me a Russian simp because I’m a European citizen more concerned with our own fascist politicians who wants good diplomatic and economic relations with Russia and who believes that most of the problems between Europe and Russia come from the US (successful) attempts to antagonize the country, because believe it or not, history did not begin in February 2022.
Aww shucks, poor Putin’s bot spinning sob stories to make people feel sowwy for the poor bot. Great tactic if you weren’t already exposed as Russia’s lover and defender.
I have personal loved ones suffering the results of the government and the sanctions.
…
because believe it or not, history did not begin in February 2022.Exactly, Russia’s aggression didn’t start in 2022 and I have generations of loved ones that suffered from Russia’s aggression. So STFU Ruski.
“Everyone who doesn’t agree with me must be paid by Putin” is one great way to absolve yourself of any accountability
I don’t give a fuck if anyone pays you or not. You are spreading Russian propaganda and defending this abhorrent country. I don’t know if you are just stupid, brainwashed, or Putin’s lackey bot, or all of the above. But I do know you are a Russian simp talking out of his ass.
This piece of misinformation has become the most upvoted post on the frontpage of the biggest Lemmy instance, this is my problem
If you said Russians are the reason you’re always missing one sock in your dryer, half of Reddit would agree.
We already know what YOU are, Yuri.
Hmm. Sounds like something a Russian would say.
Hmmm…Power must be on in Moscow at the moment.
Hopefully, Ukraine will correct that error soon.
Oh no, I contradicted your baseless conspiracy theory, I definitely must be paid for by all-powerful and simultaneously about to collapse Ruzzia!
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You’re literally just going by the words of a random reddit user at this point.
You’re describing 90%1 of all internet discussion.
1 no actual sources available
Looking at your history you seem to be a bit of a Russia’s defender.
Are you a Russian bot yourself? Do you feel called out? You seem very defensive. Projecting much?
No, he doesn’t seem to be a Russian defender. The only post I’ve found was on whether it’s ok to call Russians orcs, where he was strongly against it. Also commas in their messages are a bit sus, so it might be that their first language is Russian.
My first language is Spanish
Хорошо. Работаем, товарищ!
Qué pena me da la comida de cabeza que os han hecho con la mierda de que Rusia está detrás de todo… Pero bueno, supongo que es más fácil echarle la culpa del fascismo en la UE y en EEUU a “los malvados judeobolchebiques… digo rusos” que asumir que nuestros gobiernos están llenos de fascistas.
IDK man, I’m on your side here
You seriously don’t think there’s anything wrong with 700 people upvoting this dogshit conspiracy theory misinformation? Are you gonna pretend it’s alrighty and dandy because “it’s le evil Ruzzians at work again”?
“RuSsIaNs ArE tHe GoOd GuYs. ItS tHe NaTO fAuLt tHeY hAd To iNvADe Ukraine.”
Literal maga behaviour, I expected better from people who fled reddit
you can take the redditor out of reddit etc
Nice, the brave warriors in Ukraine are already having positive effects for the rest of the world.
Sorry, what do you mean by “actual conservatives”?
I would assume, not Russians.
Adam Kinzinger?
The way “Conservative” is used in America is different to other countries. Usually its an economic position, but in America its bound up with views on gun control, immigration, abortion, and pro corporate anti union power.
Maybe that wasn’t the best word but if someone is MAGA they’re in general not very principled because they just accept whatever Trump does even when it goes against what past prominent conservatives did or said.
For example conservatives at-least said for a long time they were strong supporters of free speech but as soon as Trump started attacking free speech a lot of them fell in line. But for example maybe some on r/conservative would say I thought we supported free speech and then the posts would get deleted leaving only those in the MAGA cult left.
Basically the likes of George Will, Liz Cheney, and other NeverTrump republicans.
They’ve been driven from any influence within the GOP, but any outsider would call them conservative.
And now Nick Fuentes is trying to elbow his way in. Hard to believe this is all really happening in my life time.
Have you seen his Piers Morgan interview? What. The. Fuck
Why is it anyone’s business if he’s a virgin or not?
That was painful to watch for many, many reasons. The commentary, the interview questions, and of course the answers.
Do yourself a favor. If you already know Fuentes is a self-avowed Nazi, don’t give that video attention.
Did you miss the part where he says women should have the right to vote?! His opinions on other people not having any rights certainly make his life choices fair game. He should be ridiculed. But yes, Piers Morgan is douchenozzle
Principled supporters of things like freedom of speech are called “liberals.”
MAGAs, on the other hand, are the truest conservatives we’ve seen since the NAZIs.
Monarchy/fascism/oppression/maintaining of hierarchy has always been what conservatism has been about. Noises to the contrary have always been lies to hoodwink their marks.
MAGAs, on the other hand, are the truest conservatives we’ve seen since the NAZIs.
Black Hundreds predated the Nazis as well.
There’s no such thing as a “principled” conservative. Conservativism is the idea that nothing should change, except the things that the conservative thinks need to change. It is, without exception, based on the self-interest of the conservative determining their own positions. It’s narcissism dressed in stoic nationalism wielding ignorance and fueled by anger.
That’s not what conservatism is. Obviously, it’s a relative term, but it still describes a concrete ideology in each society it’s in. By your logic progressives want to literally have every thing to progress, but that’s clearly not what the ideology behind it stands for.
Bullshit. Progressivism is based on the principles of freedom, justice, equality, and empathy. A progressive believes in their principles even when they run counter to their own self interest. A conservative, invariably, will simply choose principles that are aligned with their own self interest. Twas always thus, and forever shall be.
Read what I said again, you missed the point
I didn’t miss shit. Your point is wrong. There is no underlying conservative ideology. It does not exist. Each iteration of conservatives makes up their own values and then acts like those are immovable facts. It’s like drawing a circle around wherever you happen to be standing and then declaring everything within it the Kingdom of Divine Righteous People. There are no examples of conservatives who have not done this. That’s not ideology, that’s narcissism.
It was perfect wording. You are spot on.
There’s all sorts of conservative “adjacents” and factions, like various sects of libertarians, finance-oriented fiscal conservatives, hawks with a more oldschool view of foreign policy, anti-corporate small business owners, farmers, some hackers, small town preachers, “Hank Hill” suburban moderates, all sorts of folks.
From my perspective in Texas, it* used* to be quite diverse. Then all of a sudden, Trump blocked out the sun, megachurches took over, and social media/Fox News really bombarded otherwise divided factions (including my family) with a lot of unified propaganda.
Don’t get me wrong; I have seen some shit you wouldn’t believe down here, and heard plenty of talk radio that makes my skin crawl. MAGA was here before Trump claimed it. But “conservative” definitely used to be a much broader term than MAGA.
…but clearly these groups are hardly represented anymore.
If OP’s post is true, Russia is very much interested in fostering “MAGA style” Republican unity, so naturally they’re going to encourage this consolidation and crowd out the factions on Reddit.
Now, ask if they care.
Yep, I will never forget the picture of two fat old men grinning from ear to ear wearing shirts that said “I’d rather be Russian than democrat”.
Dollar for dollar it seems like it might be cheaper to bribe trump with bitcoins than run an internet disinfo campaign. But what do I know?
It’s not about Trump. Presidents come and go, but the population and society stays for the next election and the next president.
This is actually why I say this: largely things popular with the public are NOT implemented into law. I get trying to persuade the republican corporate elite but they largely defer to trump anyway. Imo, makes more sense to purchase the MAGA farmer than the MAGA cows.
Are you telling me that we live in a society?
the mods are well known russian shills, or russian backed mods. thats why they silence even conservatives that are critical of trump.
Aren’t most American conservatives these days Russian agents regardless of if they’ve ever set foot in Russia?
“Useful Idiot” is the term Russia uses for them
Yes, actual Americans would never behave like that. Americans are superior people.
Try reading my message again. I think you’ll find yours doesn’t make much sense. If you still think yours makes sense, feel free to not tell me so.
That sounds like something a Russian would say
Ah, my mistake. I thought you were just dumb and angry, didn’t realize you were a troll.
Ok Yuri
No. MAGAts are just loud af and get the most attention. If more people just showed up to vote for Kamala instead of protest due to Israel (which is now much worse off due to Trump), he would have lost then, and his popularity is dropping everyday even among conservatives.
EDIT: I didn’t get a lot of sleep last night and misread this as “Aren’t most American[s] conservative these days [and are] Russian agents…”. Leaving original comment intact, though there’s a fair amount if Russian interference in both elections which greatly benefitted Trump both times. I do believe the voices of MAGAts are greatly amplified thanks due to the Russian bots and, well, Twump. Sorry for the confusion I caused.
which is now much worse off due to Trump
You’re just straight up lying. Lying about genocide. How exactly any better than MAGA at this point?
He’s not lying. You are delusional probably, or maybe you have a bank account denominated in rubles…?
He literally is lying. And you know it, which is why you’re immediately jumping to ad-homs
Kamala: *calls for cease fire
Trump: *says Israel should finish off Palestine
Idiots: bOtH sIdEs ArE tHe SaMeThe majority of deaths were under Biden and the current rate of killing is lower than it ever was under Biden. But of course, you only care about what they said. You don’t give a fuck about the actual condition of the people in Gaza, so long as you have Democrats telling you soothing lies.
Seriously, you are as evil as the worst of MAGA; perfectly willing to lie and engage in genocide denial to defend your team.
Oh, and by the way, Trump said Israel should finish off Hamas, which is exactly the same as Harris said. Trump also called for a ceasefire. So more disgusting lies from a Genocide supporting American MAGA fascist
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You genocide denying BlueMAGA are scum
Seriously, you are as evil as the worst of MAGA
Genocide supporting American MAGA fascist
Surprised “Nazi” wasn’t thrown in there amongst the rest of the inaccurate, idiotic name calling. Not sure why you’re describing me like you should be describing Trump. Let’s see, a lemmy.ml user defending Trump and resorting to some aggravated name calling to anyone that puts him down? Do you also think Trump should have won the Nobel Peace Prize, that he should stay in power forever, and the economy is the best it’s ever been? Maybe step outside of that Russian bot farm and touch grass.
Not sure why you’re describing me like you should be describing Trump.
Because you’re like Trump
Let’s see, a lemmy.ml user defending Trump
No. I never defended Trump; I criticised the genocidal Democrats and your defence of them, which you have no counter to, so now you’re going off on non-sequiters.
Do you also think Trump should have won the Nobel Peace Prize, that he should stay in power forever, and the economy is the best it’s ever been?
What the fuck are you talking about? You’re just arguing with yourself now
Maybe step outside of that Russian bot farm and touch grass.
Fuck off, genocide denier
Not only that, but these two users post with the same pattern: 4-5 posts in a burst and then staying quiet.
Makes you just want to build a script that tracks and analyze these accounts but I would feel to totalitarian doing that. I just block them.
That’s not totalitarian, it’s just journalism
That’s why reddit made its API access exorbitantly expensive.
Maybe the actual conservatives are doing the banning.
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Folks, check the usernames before downvoting healthy self-reflection.
Everyone who isn’t a current /r/conservative user already knows this.
One comment:
Allow me to weigh in here as a Russian.
Moscow lost power due to Ukrainian drone attacks
I am sorry, /u/Ok-Stand-2128, but this premise from the post looks wrong. Could you please share your sources on this? I could find no info about an outage in the city of Moscow on that night. There was only an outage in Moscow region: more specifically, in Zhukovsky, a city with a population of about 100,000 people. (An analogy would be an outage in Albany in the state of New York, while New York City had no outage.) I’ll share my sources in a reply because Reddit sometimes deletes links to Russian websites.
I can imagine no reason for this outage to influence any Russian bots. Zhukovsky is not an IT hub.
Also, the fifth image shows that the two users in question usually start posting at 2 a.m. Moscow time, the middle of the night, not a typical workday start.
The increasing tendency of US leftists to assume Russian influence behind the conservatives seems like a rehash/mirror of the Cold War anti-communist paranoia. The profiles themselves clearly behave bot-like:
It’s definitely Ask4MD, but I figured the other one was According-Activity87. If you go on conserv sub right now half the first page is both of them posting. Both have extremely easy MOs to follow. Ask4MD will post something and never engage with it. According-Activity will post something then post a GIF response almost instantly. It’s so tuned and they’re never called out about it.
GIF responses are indeed a frequent thing for reddit bots to use, from what I’ve seen.
The increase of tankies acting like russia doesn’t sow division via bot/troll farms in the west is really annoying.
Turns out that just because you repeat it endlessly it doesn’t become true. It’s literally warmed over Judeo-Bolshivik conspiracy
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It’s literally you people making up the conspiracy shit
Says the guy suggesting it’s a Jews making a conspiracy. Please tell me again o great one how you’re anti-Semitic thoughts are going to guide us to peace and prosperity.
???
What the fuck are you talking about. Are you just making up bullshit and hoping the chuds here believe you?
For now what I’m usually seeing is people talking about Russian influence without hard proof or just plainly contradicted by reality, as in this case. I’ve seen speculation that Dessalines (Lemmy developer) is Russian due to his tankie takes, again easily contradicted by his digital footprint.
As for me being a tankie, I’m literally banned on Hexbear for being subscribed to some anti-tankie communities.
If you don’t believe that the Judeo-Bolshiviks are polluting our precious bodily fluids then you’re a tankie
Virtually every major outlet for the right wing is, in some way shape or form, controlled by fascist foreign actors. Especially Russia.
All the dumb-fuck faux leftists supporting Russia over Ukraine, claiming Ukraine has a major Nazi problem, need to open their fucking eyes and see Russia is the biggest exporter of Nazism world wide.
Russia is capitalist, fascist and an aggressor state, yet it’s loved by some communists. It makes no sense.
Because those aren’t actual communists, they’re tankies.
Tabkies don’t have any actual principles, let alone any beliefs whatsoever.
Their beliefs are solely anti-West and that is it. It doesn’t matter what contradictions or outright lies they must embrace. As long as the narrative is anti-West, they’re 100% on board.
If we invade Venezuela or even continue to steal oil tankers, is argue we’re at least the same of level fascism as Russia. Prageru is insane I’ve heard that some schools have prageru in the classrooms. It’s hard to imagine that we aren’t on the same path as Putin was. We could elect the coolest socialist women president ever and the supreme Court would still be there to prevent any progressive legislature. We suck
Trump is literally the most envious assholes on the planet. He’s friends with the Saudis, and he wants what they have, which is oil. Venezuela sits on the largest oil reserve on the planet.
We will be going to war with Venezuela.
Russia’s influence would be evident even if there weren’t so much evidence of the interference and troll farm employees speaking out. Just look at the Russian anti-trans laws and compare them to Trump’s policies.
Are you suggesting transphobia in the west is because Russia is ordering western leaders to pass anti-trans laws?
Or did you just mean America, and TERF island gets its transphobia from a different source?
In this instance, I’m talking specifically about Trump, but Russia’s influence on Europe is also undeniable, though not always as crystal clear. They have their own people in the European parliaments and intelligence from the likes of Schröder, in addition to paying the likes of Le Pen, running the troll factories, creating fake news, and so forth.
I think it’s rarely done as a direct order. More often than not, it’s a combination of all those things, best illustrated by when the Russian government and its trolls paid for Facebook ads and pretended to be American activists, getting people inside America out to protest for both guns rights and against them, as well as for BLM and for the likes of Trump. They’ve done the same in Africa and other regions. One of the goals is to create division not only to weaken but also to use domestically, as Putin’s justification for his “strong hand” leadership has often been to point at the “chaotic” and “soulless” West and ask if the population wants the same in Russia.
Just look at the Russian anti-trans laws and compare them to Trump’s policies.
Hate to bring it to you, but the evil doesn’t have to have a single source. Authoritarian regimes all across the world during the entirety of recent history have been banning LGBTQ+. Autocrats are obsessed with non conforming sex and identities
It’s not about the fact of cracking down on minorities, but about the specific language used, specific policies introduced and changes made. Think of any part of Trump’s crackdown on trans rights and you’ll find direct equivalents to it in Putin’s recent policies that preceded it. There are many ways to be transphobic, but they land on the same themes and talking points pushed by the right-wing figures who take Russian money.
Yes, it’s important to understand that America does not actually have any homegrown problem with right wing extremism, and certainly doesn’t need to consider if any structural or societal issues have caused these problems. The issue is foreigners; foreigners who have been allowed too much influence and control. The solution to America’s issues is to stop being so lenient with foreigners.
claiming Ukraine has a major Nazi problem, need to open their fucking eyes and see Russia is the biggest exporter of Nazism world wide.
Exactly; the fact that Russia has Nazis means that it is by definition impossible for Ukraine to have a Nazi problem. They are diametrically opposed.
Found one account operating from third world ruzzia.
Indeed, everyone we disagree with is secretly a foreigner
Well, statistically speaking, though…
Yeah? Let’s see those statistics
Was just going for some pedantic levity. I just mean that there’re significantly more people in the world who live outside of any given country than in.
If you hypothetically had a 50/50 agree/disagree ratio with the average person, the majority of people you’d disagree with would be foreign to you.
But that’s just because the majority of people in general are foreign to you, though. Not because of any specific ideology. So you’d also probably agree with more foreigners than anyone else, too.
I guess maybe my undoing hinges on the word “secretly”?
This is too fucking stupid to argue with.
It sure is
I could reply to this using the exact same reasoning, but with arguments switched.
“Yes, it’s important to understand that Russia does not actually have any homegrown problem with nazis, and certainly needs our support in the war. The issue is Ukraine; Ukraine which has been given too much support. The best thing to do for leftists worldwide is supporting Russia in their war against nazis.”
“Exactly; the fact that the US have a homegrown problem with right wing extremism means that it is by definition impossible for other countries to manipulate it, exacerbate it, or even be its primary cause. They are diametrically opposed.”
Do you disagree with the arguments that:
-There’s definitely more nazis in Russia than in Ukraine, therefore supporting Russia because Ukraine has a “nazi problem” makes no sense
and
-Foreign countries could’ve caught wind of the right wing extremism starting to rise in the US and therefore decided to exploit it through foreign actors, propping it into mainstream political discourse, making both things true?
Because that’s what was being argued.
the best part of all of it…is the reveal twitter had a couple weeks ago, where they put access location and registration location as publicly visible…for all of 5 minutes, revealing the fact that most big head conservative twitter accounts are foreign controlled psyop/propaganda outlets.
Crazy how the right wing just absolutely ignores that 98% of all the big totally patriotic american twitter accounts telling them what to do and how to feel come from russia, belarus, etc etc.
Interesting. Which accounts were these at the time of reveal?
https://www.newsweek.com/maga-accounts-based-outside-us-exposed-11097693
heres some of them, I’m pretty sure there was more.
Huh, none of those accounts listed were in Russia, and some were in Germany and in “Eastern European country not in the EU”
Because X/Twitter is blocked in Russia and they are forced to use VPNs, dum dum.
So everything is evidence that it’s Russia, both when the accounts are inside and outside Russia. Every claim is non-falsifiable and everything can be attributed to the evil Easterners.
They hate the libs so much they’d prefer to get bent over by our enemies as long as the libs get owned.
Virtually every major outlet for the right wing is, in some way shape or form, controlled by fascist foreign actors.
The most powerful state in world history is not being controlled by foreign actors; it is controlling much of the world through its own actors. The fascism is coming from inside the US empire.
https://worldbeyondwar.org/military-empires?operatingcountry=unitedstates
I never said fascism wasn’t homegrown in the US.
I am saying the majority of fascist figureheads and “discussion controllers” are either foreign hostile actors, or associated with foreign hostile actors in some way.
Ex: Russia, Israel, etc.
Removing the conservatives who dissent might backfire on them bc they might end up thinking they’re not considered “conservative” anymore and find other ppl to hang out with. And the reddit shillbot page will just be talking to itself. One can hope
Honestly, it probably is 70% bots and illegitimate posters at this point. Doesn’t matter though, if they still browse r/conservative while banned they’re getting fed from the teet of the outrage machine.
I wonder if r/arrestputin on Reddit or c/arrestputin here in Lemmy has any creditable information about this.
It’s probably happeneing here on Lemmy, too. Granted, I can be abrasive, but the lovely mods here delete my posts almost every time I engage with a fucking stinking Yuri bot.
I think it’s here, but the tactics are a little different.
What I’m seeing are political posts that stand a good chance of rallying people, uniting a front of some kind, and yielding fruit that could very well be positive action.
Trolls/state-actors/whoever see this and sow dissent and start pointless arguments, tying up over 50% of the visible space for discussion under the post. These cats are incredibly good at crafting troll-bait and it shows: the chaos crowds out everything good going on. And this happens every, single, time. It’s hard to see this and not think that it’s orchestrated somehow.
Also, if you keep a tally of the flavor of troll-bait being put out there, patterns emerge. Nudging people to start a US civil war is a very common one.
I think all mods would have to do is disallow changes of topic under threads, forcing them out to the top-level. That may cure any toxic piggybacking, letting the trollbait languish further down the page or get down-voted appropriately.
It’s worse here. At least r/conservative is just bots. There are plenty of idiots here who proudly spew Russian propaganda
you could try being slightly less aggro and racist if you don’t want your posts getting deleted
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I despise anyone who would try to stick up for Dumbass Donnie And Puny Pootin.
Dumbass Donnie And Puny Pootin.
are you trying to get me to cringe to death jfc lmao
I think they’re both criminals that Lenin would have shot, idk why you think the childlike names are a cutting insult
you’re acting like me saying this shit from oop doesn’t add up is proof that I’m in league with them.
Trump thinks nicknames are worthy, because he thinks it hurts feelings (don’t forget, his development fully arrested around the 4th grade), which means it would also hurt his feelings if he was called names.
And I love to see his feelings hurt. He should never live a day of peace in life, in which he isn’t constantly worrying and fighting about how much literally everyone he knows, and doesn’t know, despises and disrespects him.
My preferred name for him is HitlerPig, ever since I heard that was the name the younger staffers in the Biden White House called him.
I think most people find the nicknames tiresome and I personally think less of anyone I see writing stupid shit like that. Could be a psyop to discredit Trump detractors by making them seem ridiculous with all the dumb name calling. Outside of a particular bubble you never see that shit.
it would also hurt his feelings if he was called names.
Okay, but you’re tilting at windmills. These people are never going to hear your voice nor see your words, and I doubt they’d be hurt by some rando who means nothing to them calling them names.
You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land, the common clay of the new West.
I feel like your claim, that Russia is of one distinct race of people, is the real racism, here.
Either way, tolerance ends with the intolerant. The Russia people have had plenty of chances to prevent Putin from gaining power and waging war, and they did nothing, so fuck em.
Lool
Well that’s a shitty attitude. The average Russian has as much power as … yeah … pretty much nothing. Like all of us who aren’t ultra rich in every country in the world. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try, but that’s a different matter.
People with no power tore the USSR apart, toppled monarchies across Europe, ended the company stores and brought civil rights in the USA.
The only real reason is that they don’t actually mind all that much or they think it can be fixed somehow.
For every victim in Russia there are two or three perpetrators.
The USSR was torn apart by Yeltsin and co, with US backing. Putin was America’s guy because he had the best shot against the communists simply winning reelection.
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As an American, every American is responsible for Trump, that’s kinda how it works. That’s how the world sees it, and that’s how you should understand it.
I am absolutely not responsible for that piece of shit.
So you got out and vote against Trump, you canvass for his opponents, you attend marches against him, and you educate others of the risks of trump.
Yet you’d still be responsible for him. Thats some wacky logic there lad.
Edit: Mods removed by reply below. All i said was my city was bombed by terrorists, Manchester Arena Bombing, and I don’t hold all people of the same race as the bombers responsible. Where the fuck are we r/conservative with the censorship.
Lmao, calling this nazi is not only unhinged, it’s fucking hilarious.
ML user trying not to be cringe when Russia or China comes up challenge failed. You used to hold less water for those weirdos, the propoganda is actually changing you.
the comments were moderated on .world, not .ml idk why you’re making it about that.
anyway the guy just essentially called me a cockroach, or at least he thinks of me as one. that’s why he sounds fashy as fuck
lol rusnya
You are becoming just as much of a call-outable .ml weirdo as any of the top users. It’s both obvious and sad.
At a certain point doesn’t the word nazi just lose all meaning when you use it when your feefees get hurt. You’re seeing fascists and Nazis every where you look, it’s becoming the word you use when you disagree, it’s fucking cringe.
Like seriously, it’s weird.
the guy calls everyone he disagrees with Russian, and cockroaches, I don’t think you’re in any position to complain about me identifying what I see him as in return.
At a certain point doesn’t the word nazi just lose all meaning when you use it when your feefees get hurt.
for me it’s generally reserved for the people who absolutely revel in dehumanizing other humans.
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Oh man, I bet these tanky memes kill so hard with the right crowd. The cat throwing the book on settlers, that’s like all the cutest weirdo dog whistles.
identifying j sakai as a tankie really says more about you than anyone else tbh
Damn bro pulled up with the receipts and everything.
Yeah, and the mods deleted it.
That ain’t racist. That’s just the truth.
- What rednecks in the south say about the blacks
Idiots defending Russia, and the South…
I’m not defending Russia or the south. But going “it’s not racist if it’s true” is what hillbillies say after they make a racist statement about black people.
“He was gonna steal it until I said something” “Thats deeply racist.” “It’s not racist if it’s true!”
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If that were the case, I’d still be on Reddit.
Fuck yo couch
absolutely not
Calm down Mr Vance
It’s definitely happening. /c/conservative on most instances is just farmed posts.
not on lemmy.world AND I did my part.
https://lemmy.world/post/33388933?scrollToComments=true
I also made two of the bots delete their accounts
