Fortunately, this fucking windows partition I only keep for VR with my shitty Oculus Rift CV1 reminds me how fucked up the alternative is. I can’t fucking wait to get a Steam Frame and ditch it.
I also can’t wait to never interact with Meta again when I get a Steam Frame.
Okay, try it with nVidia!
No thanks
That will be $6000, please.
I think you went from a 25.10 branch at a point where the KMD split had already occurred. This means that support for kmd3 devices (RDNA3+4) was not present, which lead to the abject chaos you saw on windows
I’m curious about the network remark though. Was this on windows 10 or 11? Can you tell me which platform (motherboard chipset) this is with?
It‘s literally built into windows update. Installs and updates.
I am a passionate Fedora Linux user but even I have to admit that Windows does Drivers way better. Drover updates uncoupled from the kernel, sometimes possible without rebooting, proprietary drivers installed no problem.
Main issue is the inconsistent drivers naturally included in Windows update and just how many things demand you install a weird vendor specific driver, with the steward of what should be a generic Winfows driver sometimes breaking things for other vendors, and/or neglecting the Windows update vintage of their driver.
Architecturally, the Windows driver model should be saner, but for most random devices I have better luck with Linux in how drivers are maintained and supported over time.
Issue as always is that vendors have zero interest in maintaining their drivers over time.
Neither releasing updates for a new OS version, nor putting them through the process to get them into windows built-in driver library.
They’ll do it grudgingly if it helps them sell more products but even that seems to be a struggle. AMD and nvidia are better than most in that regard.
It‘s literally built into windows update. Installs and updates.
Not when you’re changing GPU vendors. It can install the drivers, sure, but not remedy the obnoxious conflict between Nvidia drivers and AMD drivers when installed in the same system.
Don’t make me dig out the screenshot when I did exactly that and fucked my Linux install to the point where x11 shat the bed on boot and I had to abandon Linux until a few months ago
When changing GPU vendors on Linux, you’ll likely run into some more issues as well.
Especially if you are going AMD -> Nvidia
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What conflict? I haven’t had issues like that in probably 10+ years.
Hell my one laptop has all 3 major vendors drivers installed and working simultaneously. Intel iGPU, Nvidia dGPU and AMD eGPU.
Not a “conflict” per se, but I know Nvidia drivers had an issue for years where it would waste a lot of CPU cycles if no Nvidia card was detected. I think that finally was fixed last year, though.
Windows does Drivers way better.
…on Linux you very rarely need to do anything driver wise so I have to strongly disagree. I think I have installed drivers for 3 devices over the past few years. If Nvidia gave a shit about Linux, the only device that gave me issues wouldn’t have given me issues.
You forgot the part where the motherboard vrm burnt due to the new gpu higher wattage but close enough.
ITT: Ubuntu (and downstream) users crying that they dont have a one click Nvidia solution like literally every other competent distro.
If you’re counting me in that, mint stopped booting when I switched from nvidia to amd
I used to be a Windows user before switching to Linux, and upgrading a GPU is incredibly simple on Windows. You don’t need Display Driver Uninstaller, but it is ideal to use it for the best performance and remediating future incompatibilities.
- Download DDU. Download Nvidia driver (and not GeForce Experience)
- Reboot into Safe Mode.
- Open DDU.
- Pick the option that removes display drivers while shutting down the computer. This option is marked as “recommended” in the GUI.
- Wait for job to finish and computer will shut down.
- Open case.
- Replace with new GPU.
- Close case.
- Turn on computer.
- Open the new driver and wait for it to install.
- Done.
Process is almost identical for AMD or Arc GPUs.
I appreciate this is a meme, but if your computer behaves like that, it means it’s borked. I’d fix those other issues, too, and probably reinstall Windows. Most likely that user messed with things they shouldn’t have by following random guides and YouTube videos online. In my decades of using Windows, I never had those problems.
If you’re going from Nvidia to Nvidia for AMD to AMD and you’re on the latest drivers already you probably don’t even have to uninstall them. When I last upgraded my GPU I just took the old one out and put the new one in and it just worked.
Yeah, I think you’re correct here. I haven’t tried this myself. First GPU was a GTX 1060. Swapped to an RTX 3080. I used DDU just to play it safe.
I just went 3080->5070ti and it felt like I could have done a hot swap. Zero issues, install and boot
That’s been my experience as well, if it’s the same vendor, just swap and go unless the old one is so old that it uses different driver software
Shocked to not find any Linux haters raging in the comment section. They’ll be here soon enough.
sir this is lemmy, half the userbase is probably using linux on their PC
Right, but there’s usually at least a couple of windows stans in any thread like this
Upgrading your GPU on a Mac:
- You can’t because it’s part of the SoC, your whole ass computer is on one chip. Go add storage instead, externally.
I don’t miss Windows either. I really don’t miss PC gaming. Though, if my last gaming computer didn’t crap out on me, I would probably be running Linux on it now. Sometimes I wish my wife would have chosen a PC I could put Linux on. I offered a cheap PC, a mid-range Mac, and a gaming PC. She chose the Mac after we looked into the cheap PC and found it couldn’t support our monitor (well, Windows 11 wouldn’t on that CPU/Chipset, it would only do 1080p, not sure if Linux could support 1440p on the same hardware, we didn’t think about that).
The one thing I have to adjust to is the fact that my drivers just update with regular system updates. What do you mean I don’t have to open the card software and check for drivers all the time.
This seems a far cry from reality, unless you’re using some magically niche card.
I had the exact opposite experience on Mint when I changed from Nvidia to AMD. Switched the GPUs and only my main monitor in my multimonitor setup was outputting signal. That lead to annoying rabbit hole and I still haven’t finished after several months (suspend still doesn’t work every time)
Ytou’re issue is probably that you are using Mint. They have serious issues with out of date drivers.
lol sure. When I installed a new GPU while using mint, it never booted again. Even years later when I assumed they would finally have support for the card, same story. Had to move to Ubuntu instead
I rolled my eyes real hard at this.
As a Linux supporter, this is absolutely not the case and it’s going to piss off every person who swaps to Linux thinking it’ll be this easy, and then when they’re hit with reality, switches back to Windows.
While there is truth to that, it’s nice distro-hopping was a solution for me. Can’t really solve your windows problems that way.
I’ve upgraded graphics cards multiple times with Windows, the hardest part was fitting my fat fingers in the case when I underestimated the size of the gtx660 for my tiny Dell case ages ago. I am looking into Linux atm though
The problem they are talking about is specific to Linux Mint, not to Linux in general. Linux Mint is known for not working on newer hardware because of its outdated kernel. Ironically arch based distros would work well here as they always have a new kernel.
Unless you buy the newest Nvidia, and then have to wait half a year for the drivers
Glad that I’m so poor this will never be an issue in our household.
