In a rental unit id be pissed to see that without labels, but in a private residence its whatever. You learn it quick enough.
I have a set of switches just like these and it unironically took me a year before getting them down. I never tried so hard to memorize them, though.
Lol yea thats about what I meant by quick enough. But did you learn a couple of them sooner? I feel like there are 2 maybe 3 id learn in a few months, but some of those are hallways or outside lights, some shit that, ya, would take me a year.
I definitely learned the garage and kitchen lights the quickest. I still can’t figure out any rhyme or reason for why they’re grouped the way they are, though.
Where I live, there’s switches next to the front and back door.
I’ve been here since 2017.
I still flip the ones closest to the doors to turn on the porch light because that’s what makes sense, instead of the one further from the door that actually does it.
You need the red card key.
Yeah, I immediately thought it was rich for Carmack to be complaining about hunting around to see what unlabeled switches do
I will never be not mad at the latency digital electronics add. It’s so small and imperceptible, but it feels like an eon.
I bet the kids never even notice.I guess LED lights have some latency but to me it’s still better than some of those fluorescent lights. I’ve had those where the bulb doesn’t light until I’ve already given up and turned on another light.
It’s very perceptible to people who know how it should be. I remember when CFL’s were being pushed, and they had to “warm up”. Then we got LED bulbs that have 500-1500ms latency from cold to lit. We deserve better.
If you can notice it, it’s not imperceptible.
I get disproportionately angry when “pause” doesn’t pause for like 3 seconds.
EDIT: Was talking about bluetooth headphones, but the stuff y’all listed is infuriating too.
Yeah, when one click is interpreted as “show the UI”, but the step back when you miss some frames you want to look closer at is longer than the time it takes to hide the UI from no activity. And then you do pause it at the right time finally and the fucking video player goes, “oh you paused it, time for me to display other shit in front of the background jokes you’re trying to read or the frames of nice butt you’re trying to appreciate”.
Is is disproportionately low? Because there is no upper limit to the rage from pause not being instant.
The pause plus all the streaming services adding shit over the image really pisses me off when I stopped it to read the letter the character is holding and I can’t tell what it is because stopping at the right time took four attempts and then it has some shaded gradient over the screen.
I click pause, nothing happens, I click pause again, the video stops and starts.
Fuckers.
I hate the credit card terminals at TJ Maxx/Marshalls specifically because of this. They have noise and visual feedback when you tap but it’s always a few seconds late. As a programmer, that shit makes me want to track down whoever wrote it and slap them.
hits spacebar to pause
Website scrolls
Laptop goes flying out the window
INTENSE RAGE
I have a mouse with a scroll wheel. I just can’t comprehend why half the time the website scrolls in the opposite direction from what it’s supposed to do if I flick the wheel too quickly.
I swear just reading this spiked my blood pressure
Shit like that is why I’ve been quitting certain streaming apps.
Read Norman‘s Design of Everyday Things for some insights about this.
I mean, it’s your house and not a product you’re selling. After a couple weeks you likely know which switch does what. Whenever a host comes you can show them the switches.
My favorite is when one of the switches does nothing you can visibly see and you never find out what it’s for.
My brother lives in an apartment with one of those. We only found out it’s supposed to go to a ceiling light when I moved into the same complex, and my place had the same switch
Merry Christmas and a Happy 1985.
There’s always one that needs to be turned on for any of the other switches to function, too.
Who the fuck does electrical wiring around you guys’ parts?
Americans
Lowest bidder Americans.
Uh … Have you seen the crews that build houses?
Had one of those. Eventually figured out that a prior owner had a lamppost in the yard. How did I figure that out? I found the buried romex. Not conduit. Romex.
I’m no electrician and even I know that you don’t bury Romex lmao. Good lord.
Edit: now that I think about it, the previous homeowner of my house used to have a fountain out front that has since been decommissioned… I found the wiring for it in a box under some gravel around where the fountain was.
There is direct burial cabling, so that could have been it. (Not Romex branded, but same thing)
Huh, TIL.
I don’t think they want my European curiosity
It’s just grey colored 3-4 conductor cabling.
I still like putting it in conduit so you don’t have to worry about someone hitting it with a shovel.
You see it under porches and decks with power outlets a lot too.
It’s beautiful 🥹
The yellow sheathed cable can be buried. The cheap white stuff cannot, at least not for long.
I got a home this year I had one like that, the wiring was wrongly attached to an outlet that didn’t have the tab broken. Took while to figure out.
No shit, an old house I moved into had about half the lights just hard wired to mains so they were always on. They had the switch runner in the box, but it wasn’t connected when I moved in so the switches did nothing. The previous tenants just screwed and unscrewed the bulbs (I rewired them correctly).
Still to this day I will lay in bed and wonder how in the ever loving fuck this happened, who did it, what they were thinking, if it was intentional, and then come to the terrifying realization that the person or people involved in this are probably still out there somewhere, operating motor vehicles on public roads, putting us all in danger. They probably even think they are smart. I mean they do their own electrical work after all.
Screw haunted houses, this is a real cursed house
What the actual fuck lmao.
What I want to know is what is the science called of placing outlets and switches exactly where furniture goes?
You’ve heard of the Chinese art on Feng Shui? The Chinese art of locating outlets and switches in places that get covered by furniture is called Fook Uho. Every interior designer studies that.
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The majority of those $5 extension cords are generally a fire waiting to happen. They are useful if you plug nothing more than a lamp in to one. Nor should one just leave them lay about on the floor, behind furniture or not.
Source: retired firefighter that has been to more than one electrical caused house fire as 2am.
I just use speaker cable and skin the ends with my teeth and jam the ends in the outlet.
We’ve all been there haven’t we.
Good design? Maybe during the Great Depression when a home had one light bulb and one radio.
I bought my house two years ago and it had been retrofitted with baseboard radiators. They covered up the lower receptacles in every outlet so you could only get a plug into the top one and then the wire ran over a hot radiator. Just mind-boggling that anybody could do that and not see a problem with it. Granted, the outlets were embedded in the cinderblock walls so it wasn’t an easy matter to move them up, but laziness kills.
For good measure, these plugs were not grounded and they all had the polarity reversed.
Oooo! The Landlord’s cousin special!
Till some guy in Germany calls you and tells you to cut it out.
There’s one room in my place where there are no fixed switches (well there’s one, but it doesn’t seem to do anything). So, all the lights are on the lamps themselves. This is obviously the best user interface in terms of knowing what a switch does. It turns on the light that’s directly next to the switch. But, it’s the worst system for lighting up a dark room, because you have to make your way through the darkness to find the lamp, find its switch, and turn it on.
Lights in the wall are a compromise in terms of switch-to-light user interface obviousness in favour of being able to see the UI or to find it in the dark.
As for knowing what turns on what, if you live somewhere you learn within a week or so what light does what. Your first week after a move is normally dedicated to more important things like finding your clean underwear. So, by the time you could start labelling switches to know what they do, you often don’t need to do that anymore. The one place where labels would really help is hotels, Air BnB places, and maybe guest rooms.
The real crime is a textured wall.
I also can’t tell if the faceplates are square…
I feel like that’s the norm in NA, no?
Southeast USA here, this sort of texture is very rare in my experience, thankfully. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it on an interior wall though.
Bizarre, I’ve lived in suburbia around the US my entire life and have literally always had this texturing on any interior wall including in garages. If the wall is drywall with paint it has this texture.
What’s the issue? Do you normally label switches at home?
Shame on you if you vrbo and don’t!
Skill issue.
For a 6 switch panel wouldn’t be a bad idea. I’m poor so my rooms only have one switch per room, so it’s pretty straightforward. But maybe some day…
I think he’s comparing it to user interfaces in the computing sense.
For context (sort of), I’m pretty sure that’s the same John Carmack who is one of the pioneers of the FPS genre of games as the lead dev of Wolfenstein 3d back in 1992.
Yes, John Carmack of evil floating point magic fame.
There isn’t an issue.
Switches at my home change place with every update so I have to re-learn which switch does what. It’s a nightmare.
I’ve got a couple of “smart” switches now, and this comment made me realize that I could have homeassistant reassign them periodically & randomly.
Lmao, this person is going to be lock out of its own house after a bugged update.
Batman does. But they’re all labeled “Bat light switch”
No, those ones turn on the Bat Light.
Looking for color coded keys is a more intuitive interface?
Tbh marking the distinctly in literally any way would be an improvement, if not for associating a light with that marking then at least for getting a clear answer when you ask someone who knows. “Hey which switch turns on the hall lights?” “Oh the one with the cock n balls drawn on it”
I can’t see it
“turn the light on”
<_<
Everyone used to bitch about how Windows 95 was such an ugly interface, but it was actually built to be usable by people with vision problems, including color-blindness. Relying on color for your interface is certainly intuitive but isn’t useful for everyone.
Agreed. Colorblind. Certain DVD menus were awful for me back in the day.
My open plan living room, kitchen, sunroom area has a bank of 5 on one wall, 3 on the other.
I’m the only person who knows what all the switches do from memory.
My wife and kids throw a lightswitch rave every time they want to turn the lights on over the island and i just beatbox techno while they try to figure it out.
Mine just turn everything on. Outside lights have been on for a week because they just flail at the switches then leave the room.
My house has motion-activated floodlights with the switches inside the garage. It almost qualifies as a workout trying to figure out if they’re on or not.
At least they’re in one place. My brother’s latest apartment is wired like a Zelda puzzle, and the switches are scattered around the living area.
whats his point, that there aren’t enough swastikas there the way they have it set up at the facebook Vr office?
John carmack throwing shade on lightswitches was not on my bingo card
I wonder if he uses VIM, because that user experience is oh boy…
Incredible?
