Does reading a “trump low in the polls” article or two every day make you feel better or optimistic?
Not at all
Why link this article instead of the CNN article all the info actually came from?
42% approving is way way too high.
Yeah this is the scary part. Idiots like Trump will always exist. The fact that so many Americans will follow an idiot is the worrying part.
Because so many Americans are irredeemable idiots
Lol, what? No, we don’t say he’s gone too far. We say he’s a criminal who shouldn’t be in office in the first fucking place. Get the fuck out of here with your standard political opposition speak.
Let us take a moment to appreciate that this reporting is coming from a news website out of Alabama.
Apparently a lot of people in the US don’t think mocking a disabled person to be “too far”. Or raping children.
Fucking morons.
The US has a cancerous culture of selfish, self-centered narcissism and blind, feudal loyalty to money and those with money. No amount of monstrousness tugs the heartstrings until it impacts them personally. Slowly, those same selfish, evil, self-centered scum are realizing that the suffering they wanted to inflict on others impacts them. They will gain no self-awareness from this and learn nothing, continuing to metastasize even even after Trumpsolini is finally dead and rotting in the ground.
Keep in mind, before trump, the Republican standard was a guy who lied about another country having chemical weapons and harboring a terrorist to drag us into a war for the benefit of his oil-baron buddies and to make his daddy proud.
I cannot imagine being such a dimwit as to be one of the people just now waking up to this.
I mean…did these people really not see his first term? Did they really think that the only reason he failed in his first term was because of Covid?
A majority of Americans polled in the survey – 58% – characterized Trump’s first year of his second term as a “failure,” according to the poll.
Just 42% of respondents said Trump’s second term has been a success.
Imagine how dim the 42% must be.
The 42% are locked on Fox News.
From my experience living in the US, I would say “dim” is an incorrect characterization. Supportive of corruption, crime and dishonesty is IMO a much more accurate characterization.
21% of American adults are functionally illiterate. I wonder if that 42% has all of the 21%?
A huge chunk of Americans either don’t pay close attention or get their news through heavily propagandized sources.
Im in Canada and have friends who believed his second term would be mostly as feckless as his first.
They didn’t understand how project 2025 meant he was going to be coming out of the gate with someone else’s agenda with all of the key players, including scotus in his back pocket. It all lined up to mean shit was going to go down fast and hard.
Look where we are one year in. 3 more years to subvert or nullify the next election.
The majority of my coworkers have casually stated the last week, “I don’t agree with the way this is all happening.”, but still overall support the agenda and hold their line. It’s a combination of ignorance and stupidity. They’re just fascists without even knowing. I live in a deep red area and from what I can gather when I hear talk out in the street, most people are either completely unaware or excited “they’re taking America back.” There is no convincing these people. I have tried for years and years, and when they seem to hear you and begin to digest what you’ve said, they come back the next day more sure than before that Facebook and Fox keep them informed. Many of them can’t tell you what the three branches of government are or how many Senators there are or provide correct answers on the simplest of civics questions.
It’s truly incomprehensible to most blue/libs that magas and conservatives are genuinely and permanently deranged cultists
They really believe it’s possible to use words and logic to convince them of things, hence the poster being confused why they aren’t convinced of anything
Because our elected officials refuse to talk like this and many constantly stress how bipartisan they try to be with everything. Saying “about 35% of this country are raving psychopaths who can not be compromised with and must be disempowered” is not an easy feel good campaign message but it’s what people need to hear.
Yeah it’s incredibly dangerous to simply ignore or pretend that these are rational people to negotiate with
They certainly aren’t negotiating with us so I’m not sure when these compromise is king types will realize this is a kill or be killed situation
Anyone who says “reach across the isle” in the primary is an automatic no. These people are not interested in governing. They are openly hostile.
We enter parliament in order to supply ourselves, in the arsenal of democracy, with its own weapons. If democracy is so stupid as to give us free tickets and salaries for this bear’s work, that is its affair. We do not come as friends, nor even as neutrals. We come as enemies. As the wolf bursts into the flock, so we come.
^ Maybe we should prevent this sort of thing, no?
"What do you mean? Covid happened under Biden, as did anything else bad that happened during Trump’s presidency. "
Unironically have had to walk people through the timeline because they seriously believe covid entirely happened during Biden’s term.
No wonder the same bunch think Biden had “the worst economy”, LOL. Cannot even recall basic recent history.
And for those that think you’re joking. The showdy is often relevant.
I forgot about the O’Reily clip. Impressive levels of cognitive dissonance that people go through to justify their feelings on events. I’m still baffled that people can misremember basic timelines facts involved with one of the biggest disruptions of people’s lifetimes that only had happened a few years ago. Realizing how fictional people’s memories were about even recent major events made it a lot more understandable how people were so easily manipulated in to thinking a billionaire conartist was somehow going to try to help them this time.
The first round of covid stimulus checks that went out had trump’s fucking signature on them. He insisted that it be on there.
Do they not remember crowing about “not cashing the check if you hate him so much?” Because I fucking do.
Or all of the BS with pseudoscientific treatment of the week? Including injecting bleach and UV light?
Oh, that’s just what they need to do to maintain mar-a-lago face.
No no no!!! Covid happened under tan suit Obama. /s
These voters have 4 year memory capacity, at best.
The US was showing signs of a recession Sept 2019, 6 months before COVID really shut things down. Things weren’t going to be great for us, covid or no covid.
The majority of Americans have significant, legitimate material and social grievances that cause them real duress. Most are surrounded by a curated low-information media environment and society that reinforces punching down, zero sum in-out group thought, scapegoating, etc. And the only official political choice they’re ever allowed is between two preselected corporate stooges.
I think we’re the dimwits if we’re confused as to why Trump has so much inertia.
I would disagree (not from the US, but I have lived there, travelled extensively and have American friends who I speak to pretty regularly).
The “low information” environment is a choice (especially nowadays). Scapegoating is a choice. A two party state is a choice. Even the unaddressed material and social grievances is a choice. US is rich enough to solve all these issues with no problem at all.
The real issue is that a significant portion of Americans support corruption, crime and believe lying is good. While at the same time parroting tedious polemics about “freedumz and shiiit”.
And on top of that the majority of the voter base of the centre-right opposition is fundemantely opposed to anti-corruption, anti-crime and governance (in terms of real outcomes, not words). Most of them are simply too well off to risk rocking the boat (until it’s too late).
While this is a gross generalisation, there is a reason why the following stereotype is applied to Americans:
There are no poor people in the US, just soon-to-be billionaires
The majority of Americans have significant, legitimate material and social grievances that cause them real duress.
And yet, most of the grievances that Trump bleats about are neither significant nor legitimate. “THEY’RE EATING THE DOGS AND CATS!!!”
Quit pretending those fools are reasonable and have anything behind their hatred besides stupidity.
And the only official political choice they’re ever allowed is between two preselected corporate stooges.
Go on, say that both sides are the same.
At some point over the years these rage-blind takes stop being cathartic and start becoming an apologetic distraction from the institutions that prefigure our social issues in the first place.
zero sum in-out group thought
Curious what you mean by zero sum in this context.
The conservative fallacy that the sum of all positives and negatives in the world is always zero, therefore good cannot be had by all and must always be had at someone else’s expense.
The old “I don’t really win unless someone else loses.”
Thanks.
The people who support Trump after even 2018 are literally so cognitively disabled, I would genuinely submit for consideration that those people are as true to NPCs as possible.
Your average cockroach is more capable of self reflection and complex critical thinking than your average Trump supporter.
Bacertia is a better candidate for holding its own personal, and expansive personal thoughts than a Trump supporter.
ChatGPT is more capable of hallucinating genuine human empathy and emotional intelligence than a Trump supporter.
Cosmic background radiation is more grounded to Earth than a Trump supporter.
These people are simply stupid beyond repair and shouldn’t be respected as equals in any capacity.
i wonder if you are aware that you are brainwashing yourself. it’s okay to cope, we all have to do it these days, but its best kept to yourself where it causes less secondary harm.
The only people brainwashing themselves are those so fucking stupid they think people who’ve gleefully supported Nazism for over 10 years now don’t explicitly and knowingly support autocracy and genocide.
Maybe stop coping and pretending these assholes can be redeemed in any way and aren anything but a hostile enemy that’d see you and everyone like you die, and are currently making big strides to seeing that through.
The left loses when we constantly shoot our own balls off and attempt empathy and understanding to these sadistic sociopaths who’ve only ever demonstrated doubling down in that direction.
So get with reality or sit down and shut the fuck up, because people like you hold all real progress back. Stop cucking yourself to Nazis.
You don’t know a fucking thing about me. You just want to work yourself up into a pseudoreligious froth. Because that’s how you are coping with your fear and insecurity. But it’s fucked up and it doesn’t advance the goals you claim to care about. It’s childish and harmful to those around you. Grow the fuck up and do something KIND for the world, if you’re so fucking afraid of nazis, you coward (since we’re apparently calling names now).
I know exactly what you are. You are like every other pathetic, fucking moronic leftist who wants to tuck their balls inside themselves and make peace with those gleefully supporting or outright committing atrocities to all the marginalized peoples you pretend to care about to virtue signal and feel better about yourself.
Wake up and join the rest of us in reality, you fuck. Stop with the Neville Chamberlain bullshit. You really want people to find the innocence in the party spearheading genocide domestically, destroying the rule of law entirely, sending the military into opposition cities to quell dissidents, destabilizing countries by illegally kidnappings their leadership, threatening NATO (of which two other member nations have nukes), and fundamentally destroying the economy for the benefit of delusional billionaires?
And you have the fucking audacity to disagree that these assholes aren’t Nazis? The mother fuckers doing all of that, plus constantly spam fucking Nazi dog whistles to the public? Seriously?
Are you just stupid or are you stupid and on their side? You act like a fucking 1990’s liberal, as if these people committing so many atrocities can be conquered and tamed with talk and strongly worded letters. Wake the fuck up and stop being so fucking pathetic. At least 1/3rd of the country is fully in support of the atrocities this pedophile piece of shit president is committing. They are a hostile enemy. Wake the fuck up for once in your miserable life. The world isn’t a fucking fairy tale like you want it to be.
What’s your favorite Obama war?
Give us a list of them so we can choose.
There’s Libya, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen, & Somalia. Iraq and Afghanistan are carryovers from Bush, so those would be cheating.
Probably Libya then.
One thing worth considering, is that on a global/historical basis it is not unheard of for whole societies (strong majority if not overwhelming majority) to descend into degeneracy, chauvinism and corruption.
In a sense, this is not something specific to the US. These things unfortunately happen.
I see where you are coming from, but I think it’s dangerous to give too much benefit of the doubt and to look at things as we want them to be, not how they are.
I don’t disavow that potential. It’s a real potential. It’s a terrifyingly real potential. And shit like the comment above and the mentality it expresses certainly doesn’t make that potential better.
I disagree with this framing.
I’ve travelled and lived for several years in many countries across NA (including the US), Europe and Asia.
One thing that I’ve learned is that it’s important to keep an open mind, to look at the good things in a given society/culture and to not be overly judgmental. It’s important to not frame thing in terms of expectations from another environment.
That being said there are limits to everything. Looking at the trajectory of American society, it is not unreasonable to speculate that their march towards a chauvinistic, corrupt plutocracy is not going to stop.
I would love to be wrong (it’s a disaster that the US has essentially turned into a mafia state), but to deny reality is the definition of cope.
“Comment above” referring to our ancestor comment, not yours. That comment just strives to paint a starkly black and white image, because black and white certainty (even if it’s wrong) serves the emotional needs of the poster. It does not offer any practical value against the slide into autocracy. It only makes things worse. Everyone should keep their coping to themselves, cope privately, and not inflict it upon others. We need to conserve our common spaces for better forms of thought.
Oh god you’re still ball tucking to other people.
Hey please drop the bullshit “holier than thou” narrative.
You’re pathetic and rather try to hold hands with Nazis than stand up to them. How very Nevillle Chamberlain of you.
And actually it is quite black and white.
There is zero nuance to mass kidnappings of brown people by white supremachists. Its indisputably evil.
There’s zero nuance to destabilizing a developing nation for the purposes of your rich buddies raping it for resources. Its indisputably evil.
There’s zero nuance to threatening to annex an ally’s territory, again for your rich buddies to rape it for resources. Its indisputably evil.
There’s zero nuance to befriending the CEO of elite pedophiles incorporated, and trafficking and raping kids with him for a decade, its indisputably evil.
And there’s zero nuance to gleefully and openly supporting genocide, foreign nor domestic. Its indisputably evil.
The fact you can’t the black and white nature of the evil of these crimes shows you are fundamentally morally bankrupt, intellectually barren, and untrustworthy with even the most basic and fundamental critical analysis of any serious situation.
Sit this one out, Jr. The adults don’t have time to make kids like you feel better about their insecurities.
I misunderstood. Apologies.
While I agree that a black and white approach isn’t exactly accurate, you can get to a point where the situation becomes close enough to black/white as a matter of practical considerations (i.e. outcomes). Again, not something specific to the US, it can and does happen everywhere.
I am still clinging to the hope that the Americans will turn things around (i.e. no Obama “hope and change” while avoiding addressing crime and corruption), but it’s becoming increasingly difficult.
And claiming that the overwhelming majority of the US far right is incapable of empathy (or that they are fundamentally supportive of crime and corruption) isn’t factually incorrect to my knowledge.
while 9 in 10 republicans back Trump
In a sense the only part that matters in terms of the problem we face.
The hard core might be contracting a bit, but it is hardening as a result.
His first term was a failure, I don’t even know how to describe his second so far.
The definition of success depends on what the goal was. If the goal was to establish a fascist dictatorship, wreck the economy, and make people afraid, he is a success
It’s a success. If you go by all the stuff he said he’d do during his campaign and the stuff he’s gotten done so far, well, then he’s actually pretty successful. And look how far he’s gotten in just one year. Fucker is basically immune to the law.
You would have to have done some serious pretzel logic to believe Trump is delivering what he said.
End Ukraine War day one? Absolutely not.
End war in Gaza? Isreal is still regularly blowing up people in their one-sided cease fire.
Close the border? This racist dog whistle worked I suppose. Less illegal border crossings. I am personally surprised anyone would want to come to the US right now so it is a mixed bag.
Make the largest deportation event ever? Honestly Biden and Obama are going to be hard to beat especially now that no one wants to come here.
End birthright citizenship? This is straight out of white supremacist’s playbooks. He has not accomplished this yet thank goodness.
Impose tariffs to improve economy? He has certainly imposed and withdrawn and then reimposed and then re-withdrawn a lot of tariffs. This has made him and his cronies very rich but it has generally hurt everyone else. I think in the next year we will begin to see how devastating they have been to the economy.
End inflation and lower prices? Absolutely stupid promise that no administration could hope to make happen. It is simply out of their power so it was stupid to even say this and it has not been fulfilled.
Make government more efficient? This has been one of the worst failures of any administration in history. This administration fundamentally misunderstanding of the agencies they slashed shows a profound lack of judgement. They are beyond inept and probably criminally negligent.
Ban transgender people in Sports? Considering it was never actually a problem it is hard to say you can be successful in solving an imaginary thought exercise. Having said that the conservative have spent a huge amount of time passing laws around this subject instead of governing real and important issues.
Eliminate the Education Department? This is one of those promises that should have never been made. The federal government is required by law to provide services for children with disabilities amongst many other critical programs. While this administration has been successful in greatly disrupting it, without having any alternative plan, they have not and cannot be successful because of numerous laws. This is once again tantamount to criminal negligence.
Cover IVF? Weird promise, has not been delivered but could in the future.
Pardon Jan 6 rioters? Stunning success except for the fact many have been locked up for additional crimes. That one pardon has now literally lead to thousands of crimes that this administration is now culpable for. Bizarre decision to subvert US law.
End DEI? While the administration can’t stop the spirit of DEI since it is American in value, they have certainly made any mention punishable by firing thus violating everyone’s right to free speech. Truly a bizarre move because if the government can just randomly decide DEI bad why not anything else without justification. Promise kept though to best of their intolerant little hearts.
I can’t see success here, but they have kind of accomplished some things. They are so spiteful and incompetent I will be surprised if it can last. Their legal counsel is inept, their leaders are barely functional, and their agenda is anti-human. Not really a winning combination.
Unless you are benefitting from the pump and dump schemes this administration seems to love so much I don’t think there is anything to like. Even their extremists are turning on them. They got a limited lifespan unless they can pull off something they seem incapable of.
He has virtually no support from Democrats while 9 in 10 Republicans back Trump.
So, ‘disastrous’ in the sense of clickbait headlines, but in practical terms, A-OK.
We told you. God damn it, we voted against this. People forgot in 4 years why we voted him out!!! They all can go get bent!!!
I mean the Dems trying to run a genocidaire who could barely speak coherently probably didn’t help matters
That poll primarily shows that a good third of the American public is still to dumb to understand what is happening.
I JUST saw another article that said his approval ratings were fairly steady and line up with about what they were the first time around.
Statistics and numbers can be made to say damn near anythin.
“Failure” and “gone too far” are understatements and give the impression it was all by accident.
Project 2025 is 50% complete. That is not a failure.
Yeah, it’s like plans to attack Greenland is to far, but until then everything was fine.
There are a lot of people who are just now realizing, with the threats to Greenland, that the rest of the world won’t be coming to save them.
No shit, multiple people really do believe that NATO is supposed to be policing US internal politics, and liberating them from the orange turd.
It’s only now starting to dawn on them that the rest of the world will defend each other from the US, but they won’t save the US from itself.
There are too many interests external to the US that would stand to benefit from it’s collapse, beyond those that are actively trying to orchestrate it.
People say he’s “Gone too far” because if we say what we really think we “Get a visit from the FBI.”
