What in the fake news is this source ??
I feel like if you made a Venn diagram between Lemmy users and Linux users, it would just be a circle. I say this as also a Linux enjoyer.
I don’t see what relevance that comment has to mine. Why did you write this?
I’m a lemmy user, I don’t currently use linux. So your point is not correct.
More importantly, I wasn’t saying anything about linux users, I’m pointing out the the source that was posted is a blogspam non-reputable source.
You couldn’t pay me to move to Linux.
Sucks to be you.
Nah. Everything works and I don’t have to deal with linux bros.
Everything works? On Windows?
Now I know your comments are just bait.
Then stop taking the bait.
Nah. Everything works. You guys like to invent problems and say that nothing will ever work yet… Windows is still the most used operating system because it just does. I’ve never had a problem with Windows that I couldn’t fix by a restart. It’s almost like not everyone using the operating system wants to do the inane bullshit that Linux users do and some of us want to just have it do the bare minimum.
But good to know that literally any differing opinion to your own is classified as ‘bait’. Another reason to avoid Linux users at all costs.
Lol just recently Microslop broke the shutdown function.
I click start, I click shutdown, it shuts down. So unless you are talking about some obscure shit that no one really uses, that’s a lie.
Just because it doesn’t happen to you specifically it doesn’t mean it’s not true.
https://lemmy.world/post/41756082
It was literally reported on by tech news outlets. You can get your head out of the sand, it is possible, I believe in you.
I wonder if r/Windows11 would agree that “everything works.” Damn near every new update is bringing new issues with them. The entire OS is a privacy nightmare. Microslop is constantly shoving Copilot where people don’t want it. There a plenty of valid reasons why people recommend Linux, Apple, and even Windows 10 over Windows 11.
With “everything works” they obviously mean almost everything works almost all of the time. It is an exaggeration. Nothing is perfect.
The privacy nightmare only matters if you care about privacy, which the average user doesn’t.
Copilot can be disabled or just ignored in every software it is enabled.
There are also plenty of valid reasons why people recommend Windows 11 over Linux, Apple, and especially Windows 10.
I know you Linux users get bombarded with “windows bad” posts claiming nothing works on Windows. But reality is quite different. The average user doesn’t care about the things a Linux user cares about. And Linux users also tend to overestimate the capabilities of the average user.
Like, there are so many people in developed nations who don’t even have an internet connection. They are also part of the average users.
I know this is bait but literally just web browsing on a windows desktop 2 days ago made it bluescreen. W10 even, so can’t even blame the shitshow that is W11.
I guess it goes for your argument though of stuff that can be fixed with a reboot… 🙃
Yeah. Sure it did.
You want a pic for proof? Ok, no worries.
Taken:
Sat, Jan 17, 2026 • 12:09 PM GMT+01:00Can’t wait for you to say this was 'shopped now. Go ahead, humour me.
I mean it fixed the problem automatically, didn’t it? /s
And yet when I use it things break. You guys always act like it doesn’t happen, but it does.
I’d rather have a system that works, is uncomplicated, and requires no maintenance. Where I don’t need to constantly paste shit into a command line to get stuff to work, try system restores, etc.
Funny to see a Star Trek reference in your name and then the comment below is simping for an evil trillion dollar company while shitting on the collective collaborative efforts of the many, too. Talk about missing the point.
And yet when I use it things break.
That says more about you than it does Windows. So many users have never had any issue with their Windows computers.
It really doesn’t. I can find any number of articles about Windows updates breaking things for hundreds of thousands or millions of people.
“Paste shit into a command line to get stuff to work”
Like Linux? Or did I just pick a crappy distro as a beginner? On Nobara OS I couldn’t get a onedrive folder to work without konsole, and the one were setup was simple enough to work, I’m having bugs with files not syncing.
A case could be made that I should use some Linux focused cloud with a flatpack install, but I can’t since my uni relies on MS. Admittedly, an issue because of their monopoly, but one that makes switching an effort for normal people anyways.
Huh? Are you using an ISO from 2004 or something? I’ve never used a terminal on my PC outside of windows. On Linux I don’t even have one installed.
In my experience Windows is bewilderingly complicated, prone to breakage, full of spying/ads, and is a bit of a UX/UI nightmare.
It also just… turns sluggish over time. I’m not 100% sure why, but running their sketchy-looking disk cleanup utility seems to do the trick. Why it has to be something the user knows about and regularly carries out manually is beyond me, though.
I just want my PC to work, not fight me, and not feel like a chore to use. Windows cannot give me that.
People like you make the world a living hell
Yes. I make the world a living hell for avoiding toxicity.
Maybe he does it for free.
No joke, good for you. Linux has its problems and even though I think they’re worth going through a lot of people don’t. That’s ok. But you can’t deny Windows has its own problems :P
None that I’ve encountered that have been remotely as severe as the ones I encountered while using Linux.
Then you made a good choice sticking with Windows.
Yeah. Sort of my point. The vast majority of users will never encounter problems severe enough to cause switching to a backwards OS
Oh I completely disagree. There are severe enough issues for users to switch to Linux, they’re just not severe enough for you.
Or the overwhelmingly vast majority of windows and Mac users.
Linux is an OS you’re forced to use, not something you choose.
“Linux is an OS you’re forced to use, not something you choose.”
You’re right, I was held at gun point by the Penguin Task Force led by Torvalds himself. I feared for my life and I had to figure out how to use NixOS otherwise my family and I would have been sent to the gulag. Oh how I wish I could be using Windows but I can’t 😭
Windows is my Juliet and I am her Romeo. 😔
Why the hell is Gates on that image?? The guy stepped down as a CEO 26 years ago, and left the board of directors six years ago.
The enshittification is all Nadela’s baby.
Did you ever use windows before XP?
Friend, I used computers before DOS.
You somehow made me aware Gates had to use either an UNIX derivative (iPhone) or a Linux derivative (Android) daily.
I’d assume that for the majority of his career he was using something like Series 20 OS (Nokia’s proprietary OS) or the BlackBerry OS (before it was rewritten to be based on UNIX-like QNX).
But since then, yeah. There are literally no other options since MS killed Windows Mobile with prejudice.
The right never lets go of anything. Ever
Gee, I wonder what went wrong…
Title implies a big move, pretty far from the steady growth their sources say and that they explain throughout the article. But I guess a more honest title like “Linux among gamers sees new record after continuous steady growth” isn’t as click-worthy.
PC Gamers keep Abandoning Windows 11 for Linux with Higher FPS & Fewer Interruptions
What does Bill Gates have to do with Windows nowadays?
Mascot
Dude is retired and giving his money away.
i’ve just installed cachy, yesterday. been working fine so far. I can even double click to install .exe files, but… it didn’t handle installing battle.net that well, so… i had to do it manually, but that worked fine.
So far no issues. Fast, and easy. even more customizable out of the box, than windows.
if you haven’t tried it, i highly recommend you give it a go. it’s free.
I’ve been using CachyOS for a few months now and it’s mostly been great, and so so much better than Windows.
I should probably just try to run .exe installers more. That might solve some of the challenges I’ve had with the transition, particularly since getting devices working correctly in my Windows virtual machine while still keeping full functionality in Linux has been challenging (webcam, sound, microphone, mouse4/5 and dpi buttons).
Docker has solved my biggest other challenges, for apps that have a Docker image anyway. They just work.
Are NVIDIA drivers still an absolute bitch to get working correctly? Is there still no way to run games off Gamepass?
Ok cool, so it’s NOT just easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy to switch.
I gotta say… As bad as Nvidia’s drivers are (obligatory fuck you Nvidia with a Linux middle finger), I’ve never really had a lot of trouble installing the drivers. It’s always been fairly straightforward with some shitty installer program, but it almost always worked.
I know nothing about Gamepass, but Mint runs Steam games on my 2080 just fine. It worked out of the box. I was a little surprised. To keep Steam from forcing me to update FO4, I bought it off GOG and installed it through heroic, with zero issues. It just worked.
But, no, it’s not easy-peasy to switch, you do need to be motivated to make the effort. Of course, there is a learning curve. Feel free to stay on Windows, that was always allowed.
Nvidia just works unless you have a some weird obscure hardware combo. It’s been like this for over a decade. Nvidia’s reputation is because their code is shit, their processes are shit, and they lack feature parity from windows that their competitors have shown isn’t an environment limitation (like changing the amount shared dram used as vram).
Tips: Your distro maintaindr already did the hard part, get the driver from them instead of nvidia (unless you’re on Debian, then you’re on your own).
If you are on debian (or any of the other rare distros that don’t package the nvidia driver for you) and using xorg, back up your xorg.conf because the nvidia installer will modify it and the new one may not work. If you’re not comfortable using the terminal, make sure you take note of the location of your xorg.conf to minimize time spent there, you will need it though.
If you’re on a normal distro, it’s usually just
sudo <PackageManager> <install flag> nvidiaorsudo <PackageManager> <install flag> nvidia-openNo, on popular distros they are preinstalled, or only require you to check a checkbox in system settings.
Did this last May & haven’t missed much. I don’t play AAA slop though.
Which distro did you end up going with? Wanted to change my tower over from Windows. Guessing bazzite is appropriate?
Kubuntu on my main workstation & Linux Mint on everything else.
I’d suggest trying a couple through live ISOs to see what works best out of the box with your hardware. I settled on CachyOS and definitely recommend it. Bazzite is ok, very stable, but keep in mind it is immutable which may hamper its abilities as a full desktop.
Oh it’s immutable? Damn.
That explains some shit.
How do I go about switching to CachyOS? Just wipe the NVME and run an installer?
Yeah I’d wipe it if you’re going to switch, always less headaches that way. CachyOS has a lot of options so I’ll throw my 2 cents out there, I set it up with btrfs file system and the limine bootloader because it automatically sets up snapshots so you can roll back if something gets borked. It’s also easier to get secure boot working with limine if you’re trying to dual boot.
Not OP. Around same timeline. Went with bazzite for gaming. Have been using bazzite daily since. Stuff just works super easy to install. Also tried and have mint still installed on another partition but haven’t used it much besides the initial installation. And installed dual boot bazzite and mint on my old gaming laptop. Use mint on there daily for internet browsing and such, no gaming. But I’m certain it would work just fine as it’s all pretty much the same besides Debian (mint) Vs Fedora (bazzite).
I don’t play AAA slop either, and a few older easy anti cheat games don’t work. Such as Fawkes revival of Defiance.
Everything else works pre installed with Steam+ proton, Or Ludis + wine, Or the Heroic launcher for GoG, Amazon and EGS.
I do get higher FPS and better temps and less hardware usage than I ever did on Win11 for the same exact games.
Arch was described as hard mode but I installed EndeavourOS with KDE Plasma about a month and a half ago and it’s been smooth sailing. Given all the programs I use have native linux clients and I don’t play kernel level anti-cheat games at all.
The ArchWiki is the best hand-holding that you’re going to get on Linux, it’s the finest system administration documentation that the OS has available. But Arch doesn’t “do things for you automatically”, that’s not their ethos. So it’s hard mode until you’ve developed enough sysadmin skills to understand what the docs are telling you, and then it’s easy mode because it all works great together and you’ve a phenomenal reference source.
We run SUSE at work; and when SUSE is working, it’s a damn fine Linux - secure by default, up-to-date, efficient. But if it stops working, man alive, I wish we were using Arch instead. (Admittedly, we just redeploy anything on SUSE that stops working, which takes moments, whereas fixing Arch takes a while but at least you can fix it.)
I’m thinking about going dual boot mode soon, as Manjaro is a godsend so far on my ThinkPad.
Just remember to have your installs on independant hard drives, not just partitions.
If you have set your mind to Manjaro I don’t want to dissuade you, but if you are not yet strongly convinced of the distro I always like to point out that there were some issues with the distribution in the past (someone collected them here).
If you’re just after an Arch-like distribution I think EndeavourOS is a very friendly distro without adding their own repositories on top of Arch. But again - if you’re happy with Manjaro by all means also stay with it.
EndeavourOS, CachyOS, and Bazzite are back-up options in case I need to distro hop.
I have been over 1 year in EndeavourOS and I can’t complain, no issues at all except when I screw up.
What does screwing up mean in this context?
Edited some files and had trouble login in, had to go live iso and edit them back.
I’ve only been using it for a few weeks now, but I’m having a great time with EndeavourOS. I’ve tried Linux every now and then for over 20 years now, but always bounced off for one reason or another. This time, I’ve never felt any desire to go back.
For me, my use case, and my hardware, EOS has been significantly less of a headache than Windows 11 was.
I am a Debian user, most of my homelab is on Debian but my desktop is on EndeavourOs, neither has any bullshit.
Many games are still not functional on Linux. Here is a link showing which ones aren’t just due to their anti-cheat features. That doesn’t include games that aren’t compatible for other reasons.
It’s pretty rare to find a game that doesn’t work for a reason that isn’t anticheat. I would say the few that are incompatible definitely classify as the exception and not the rule.
If you can find a game that doesn’t work on Linux at this point not due to anti cheat that would be honestly rather impressive.
I’m not playing any games with anticheat and I’m working so much I only play single player. Linux won for me
I saw in a recent Youtube video that between web services and AI, Windows licencing is only about 10% of Microslop’s business.
IDK if that number is true, but it sure would explain how much they’ve put into user experience. Does anyone use Windows because they like it?
I wouldn’t be surprised. Desktop revenue has been a pretty small slice for their revenue long before AI was a thing. Their main drivers were server products and O365, and now AI and Azure are also pushing a lot of revenue.
Direct revenue through Windows sales might be low, but I suspect Windows is still important to drive people to buy One Cloud, office 365 etc subscriptions. So when people move away to Linux, the other services should become less profitable with some time delay
Most likely. The majority of MS products and services are interconnected in some way.
I did back in the XP days. Long, loooong ago…
XP was alright, but I’m mostly just nostalgic for the aesthetic of 95/98/2000
Vista was the reason I switched to Linux
This was the same era when I tried to switch, due to the shittiness of Vista. I wanna say it was Mandrake Linux was what I was trying to use, but I couldn’t get it running correctly on my hardware.
Came back some time later and discovered Mepis Linux. After that, I never went back.
I started with Ubuntu, switched to Mint and finally settled on Arch.
The worse part of vista wasn’t even that it looked awful or ran awful. Personal perfence not with standing.
It was just 3 years too early and hardware fucking sucked. Drivers went standardized and everything was too weak.
Going back to vista years after the fact show it was actually really solid.
Probably the last time Microsoft was ever ahead of the curve in terms of design. Vista then 7 were great design wise, then it was only down hill since.
Changing the graphics driver model at the same time as making the desktop graphically demanding was probably a bad idea
Hardware was definitely the issue. What got me to first install Linux was my wireless card just randomly stopped working. People were recommending that I do a full reinstall of Vista to get internet working again. I installed Ubuntu instead and never looked back.
I’m mostly just nostalgic for the aesthetic of 95/98/2000
Boy, have I got some KDE themes for you!
I saw in a recent Youtube video that between web services and AI, Windows licencing is only about 10% of Microslop’s business.
That’s correct. Here’s some data on Microsoft’s revenue:
40% Server Products and Cloud Services 22% Office Products and Cloud Services 10% Windows 9% Gaming 7% LinkedIn 5% Search and News AdvertisingIDK if that number is true, but it sure would explain how much they’ve put into user experience.
It does but it’s really short-sighted from MS’s part. Sure, Windows might be only 10% of its business, but the other 90% heavily rely on it. Or rather on Windows being a monopoly on desktop OSes; without that people Windows servers, Office and MS “cloud services” (basically: we shit on your computer so much you need to use ours) wouldn’t see the light of the day.
Azure has support for Linux servers. They’ve even made an effort to port Dotnet to Linux. A majority of their cloud infrastructure is Linux it seems.
That 40% isn’t for Windows Server, is it?
I had to dig through their annual report to find it:
Server products and cloud services revenue growth
Revenue from Server products and cloud services, including Azure and other cloud services; SQL Server, Windows Server, Visual Studio, System Center, and related Client Access Licenses (“CALs”); and Nuance and GitHub
So it includes Windows Server, but it’s way more than just that.
Imagine having to babysit Windows servers
i like windows 7
none of the other popular desktop operating systems cost money at all. I don’t know why Microsoft is doing half of the things that it does
I don’t think the number is indicative of quality. The office suite is their bread and butter (alongside Azure) and Teams is a steaming pile of shit.
I’d love to roll back to Linux but my GPU and the drivers don’t get along very well.
Which GPU do you have? There are plenty of distros that work just fine with Nvidia.
GTX 1080.
Might be an issue with my setup. I run HDMI + DVI. My BIOS refuses to work with DVI for some reason.
Might detect it as two monitors, hence why it runs at full boost clock constantly. Didn’t find a fix for it so just gave up and went back to Windows where it works just fine.
Also doesn’t seem to detect DVI without the HDMI connected. Might be my GPU is faulty.
/shrug
Buy AMD, I suppose
Amd doesn’t necessarily work better than nVidia. It can completely break your system if you’re unlucky.
Care to elaborate?
There’s a well known bug in amdgpu that will freeze your display or your whole system. Just search “amdgpu freeze linux”, apart from the usual shills it’s not a secret.
I don’t get any indication from the search that there’s a single unfixable issue, seems like various crash/freezing issues being reported over the months. I’ve only seen an issue where I needed to restart my system once in the year or so I’ve been on Linux, and that seemed to just be linked to one game (that I’ve since played without issue).
This is also the second time I’ve seen someone with a vague reference to an amd issue that is described in a way that sounds both profound (breaks for system) and mundane (by making it freeze once in a blue moon). And instructions to do a search that will give results but the implication is that they are about some massive single issue when the search term is going to give lots of unrelated results. Smells like disinformation to me, or rather trying to make nornal issues appear like massive ones.
Replace “amdgpu” with “nvidia” or “linux” with “windows” and there’s still tons of results.
It seems to me that things like
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues?label_name[]=9000+dGPU+series
Are a fairly good example of the problems that many people are having. Note they’re not very random but tend to follow a distinct motif. The driver freezes the display or the system at random times. And if it’s such a rare occurrence, I must be so very lucky.
I’m not saying that one brand is better than the other. Just that the endless shills saying that AMD is the Linux messiah are both tiresome and wrong. There can be, and are, many problems with AMS din Linux, just like there are with nVidia.
I have a 3080 and run Mint without any real issues, what sort of problems have you found come up?
I have a 3080 with two HDR capable high refresh rate monitors and a year ago when I switched I tried Pop and Fedora both of which just launched all games to a black screen. Installed arch which finally let me run most proton games but every couple of sessions I get FPS spikes and jittering and have to restart the games. Going to get a 9070XT and bazzite soon
I can’t say i’ve tried either of those distro’s but I chose mint because I heard it had good support for NVIDIA cards etc and wanted something easier to get into.
There was one game I have ran which I do have an issue with freezing in but I know this particular game had the same issue for some people on windows as well (though not me previously) so I don’t think it’s specifically a linux problem.
I’ve only had issues with audio on mint due to a mistake in one of the config files which didn’t allow it to recognise my sound board correctly but was fixed with a few minutes of googling thankfully.
I’ve heard bazzite is good for gaming so I hope it works well for you.
Gaming distros should have that sorted out of the box.
I honestly hated W11 so much that I jumped onto Linux whether I’d be gaming on it or not.
It runs great, but even if it didn’t I wouldn’t go back.
I made the move to Linux about a month ago, and it’s been super smooth (and yes I have an NVIDIA 3080). I went with CachyOS though. The ONLY thing keeping me dual-booting windows though is Cubase (DAW), which is unfortunate but whatever. I don’t really play any games that use EAC / kernel-level anti-cheat so it doesn’t affect me, but is a bummer.
Have you looked into using Wine or Proton to install Cubase on CachyOS? I see the wine page for it has a few garbage rating for the app, but I imagine that some of the work being done to get the steam games working might carry over to other desktop apps that didn’t work well on Wine in the past.
I’ve attempted to install Cubase using Bottles with no luck. I think the difficulty revolves around audio drivers and such.
Yeah, Linux audio is great when it does work, but a real pain when it doesn’t. Looks like there is some work being done to bridge the DAW gap like https://github.com/microfortnight/yabridge-bottles-wineloader, but I image getting it working will be a bit of a rabbit hole.
Sweet. Well hopefully in the future I’ll be able to get Cubase running and ditch windows entirely.
Cubase works great for example in Hatari
Nice 👌
I installed Bazzite on my gaming pc this weekend. It runs Cyberpunk 2077 just fine.
This immutable Fedora + Gnome 49 is a bit weird coming from Xubuntu; seems to work though.
