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    Can someone more technical than me correct me if I’m wrong here, but … isn’t scheduling alerts for things something that has been in PRE-FUCKING IPHONE ERA DUMB PHONES EVEN!?

    Like … am I taking crazy pills or something? Computers (and later phones) have had schedulers and reminder apps since before I was born (1966) right?

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    Wow, such innovation, very impressive! I’ve never had anything that reminds me of shit and makes me go broke, too! That definitely justifies wasting energy, water, and all those GPUs and RAMs!


    I’ve looked through a few pages of response on Nitter, hoping to find at least one sane response, and I didn’t know what to expect, but holy hell. One guy. And their reply rather looks like a quote (maybe some docs, if that exists in LLM land) rather than full condemnation, before going on a trip in the next reply:

    GUBA:
“Don't do LLM requests for things you can achieve with local tools like a "Calendar/Clock" tool”; Benjamin de Kramer: The user shouldn't have to manually tell it that, honestly.; GUBA: should be an update to the soul document or system doc

    But the rest? Absolute zilch, noone full-on telling that guy what an absolute smoothbrained fuckwit they are. Instead most of the replies are either giving “optimization” advice, thanking them for the oh so helpful warning or roasting their “prompting” ability. It’s quite horrifying, actually.

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    Billions of dollars on LLMs and probably burning $50 worth of resources to get $20, less transaction fees, just to do what basic digital voice assistants could do years ago (“hey Alice/Jarvis/siri/Alexa, set a reminder for nine AM tomorrow called get milk.”) and basically any cell phone or PDA could do starting more than two decades ago… (set alarm>09:00>name: get milk>save)

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    I wasn’t sure why this was so funny but then I thought about how most posts regarding AI I see are complaining about how its been shoehorned into every fucking product whether or not it makes sense or even completely destroys the functionality of the product. And then, on top of that, you have to pay for it, like when apple can’t fix siri so they ask if you want to hook up a chatgpt not to access your data.

    And thats what’s so funny. This guy very consciously did that to himself. He drank the AI kool aid so thoroughly he made his own subscription service to… Set a timer? The concept of a to do list, or reminders or alarms, is something we’ve generally nailed as a species. Sure, there are ways to improve it, but he certainly isn’t finding any of them and paying for the privilege. Shocking stupidity.

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      whether or not it makes sense or even completely destroys the functionality of the product

      Sounds like Google. They tried to remove the Assistant that did the job with Gemini that sometimes does the job.

      Did Gemini really set the alarm? Toss a coin.

      I think they’re also aware of this since they’re now giving people the option to choose between them. Lol

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    Another tech bro discovered another stupid wasteful (and apprently ludicrously expensive) idiot magnet? Nice.

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    OpenClaw takes a simple MCP server and LLM context manager and then amazingly bloats it into a 500,000 line vibe coded monstrosity of a codebase that burns through tokens like a bonfire. I genuinely do not know how one can even mess this up.

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    Amateur hour over here.

    Always put guard statements in front of the “expensive” code path.

    AI is like an extremely slow and expensive database call. Or a really expensive crypto transaction (since AI bros and Crypto bros are likely the same people).

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    Jeezes fuck, all that trouble to conclude the obvious.

    Buddy, humanity survived without computers since forever… maybe you know, dial it back just a smidge.

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      He didn’t even conclude the obvious because his better solution is still the same shit. 14 hours a day of asking an LLM “is it daylight yet?”, which the LLM itself needs to figure out, since it doesn’t have eyes, might not even be running in the same timezone, and even then, it changes from day to day depending on your latitude (and might not happen for months if you’re close enough to either pole). And whatever method the LLM uses, you can just do that directly yourself without buying any tokens.

      Funny part, I just prompted Llama 4 Scout “I need to know if it is daylight yet.” And it said it would need to know my location but suggested alternatives like checking local time vs sunrise/sunset times, checking a weather app, or the final bullet: “Look outside!” So even if he had asked an LLM for how to solve this problem, it might have given him a better solution than what he ended up with, even with his improvements.

      Also, daylight is irrelevant for “remind me to do x tomorrow”. If it was trying to avoid reminding him at midnight, it could just pick whatever arbitrary time to display the day’s reminders or base it on when he’s moving around or leaving the home if it wants to be fancy (though seriously, you should figure that shit out yourself to avoid having to optimize a “is it daylight yet?” loop because your LLM was designed to use more tokens to get things done (no idea if that’s the case for OpenClaw).

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      We’ve also done pretty good with stuff like electronic datebooks and appointment reminders pretty much since computers were invented.

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    To be completely honest the $20 was the Token costs.

    If the service charged a profiting price that accounted for the training and hosting costs-

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    I wonder how much he paid in addition to that to generate that tweet.

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    Why even use an LLM for that? That seems like the completely wrong use-case for an LLM.

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    Imagine if every time the kids ask you “are we there yet” during a long road trip you’d be charged $0.75.