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    “It’s extremely hurtful, frankly,” said Nvidia chief executive Jensen Huang in a January interview about the “battle of [AI] narratives.”

    Isn’t admitting you are confused and hurt by why customers don’t like a product tantamount to admitting complete incompetence as a CEO?

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      They regard themselves thought leaders. They are confused why their thoughts aren’t being followed en masse.

      EDIT: just explaining their logic as I suspect it, not condoning anything here :)

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        “Thought leaders” is one of the most ridiculous bullshit phrases to ever come out of the English language

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          I work for a CEO who constantly uses this phrase.

          What sort of “thoughts” has he led with, you ask? Gamification, then blockchain, then crypto, then AI. That leadership feels an awful lot like trend-chasing to me… but I guess that’s why I don’t make the big bucks.

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            Note that broadly people that have an affinity to “thought leader” are not “authorities in their field”.

            The “thought leaders” are the people that take credit for making obvious wishlist statements and then saying it’s all due to them should it happen. Like if I as some internet rando said “we should really cut down on CO2”, and then somehow the world manages to reduce CO2 one year and I say “I was a thought leader and the reason why we reduced CO2”.

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        They all think they are Steve Jobs, and while he certainly isn’t anywhere close to the genius messiah they believe him to be and was also a giant asshole, he was also far more on the pulse of what people want and don’t than any of these absolute fools.

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      No, this isn’t an accident. It’s a PR ploy, and done entirely on purpose. The idea is to push the people who aren’t critical towards AI to their side. By being confused and not understanding why people are so mad at these innocent little men just doing their best to bring something good to humanity, they’re humanising themselves. Most anyone can relate to fears of having their hard work rejected by others, and they’re playing on that.

      I wish people would stop platforming this nonsense.

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      When your job is to play golf and post your Philosophy 101-level “deep thoughts” on Twitter, you can be forgiven for believing that LLMs can do real work.

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      Why the fuck should we care about their ‘feelings’ when their rapist mentality fucks up the world. Lie, steal, cheat for a solution in search of a problem so they can make money by making people lose money and become unemployed.

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      They’re fueled by hopium and shit out false dreams. Basically they’re the Boiler Room or pinksheet Wolf of Wall Street, trying to trick as many investors as they can to swallow their shill.

      Although some may actually believe their own hype in a deeply egotistical way, like Jared Leto’s character in the Blade Runner sequel.

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      You know, in my days when I learned economics I was taught to come up with a new plan if the business doesn’t work and the customer does not buy/pay. Else I have failed.

      And not whine about things hurting…

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      You know what’s extremely hurtful??

      Get something that does not work being forced down your throat.

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        Get something that does not work being forced down your throat.

        Honestly, it’s not just that.

        Digital services have this terrible trend to get downgraded because some designer decides something like

        Well, having 10 buttons is too much, we should have only 4 buttons. We should also make the UI 5x more clumsy (although they’d call it ‘beginner-friendly’)

        Ai is very similar, except it’s an exec throwing tantrums to slap AI onto something, which wastes company resources and makes the product either more or a lot more worse than before.

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      I hope they’re fucking hurt.

      Fuck the people who peddle this shit in such an evil way. They want to replace us and pocket the profits.

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    "We are working on a technology that will accelerate climate change while hopefully making most of the population unemployed in a world where unemployment means you barely get the basic necessities of life, if even that! What? Why are you all booing?

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      But but don’t you understand, AI will allow them to reduce spending, if you only look at wages paid to humans and ignore the material costs of all the infrastructure and propaganda about how great it is

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      Spot on, Dude over a 100 upvotes, I think this is the most upvoted comment I’ve ever seen on Lemmy, ha.

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      More like “We are throwing cartloads of money at technology at the expense of actually meaningful improvements. Oh, and shedding jobs as well. Gotta make the lines go up. Oh, and we don’t care at all for the environment, and this technology just so happens to be terrible af towards it. Oh, and don’t expect getting a new ram stick in the next 2 years at the very least”

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      …in a world where unemployment means you barely get the basic necessities of life…

      Ssshhhiiiiiiiiiiii, even with employment you can’t pay for basic necessities. Shit’s so fucked!

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    AI

    • Added zero actual value to humanity
    • Can do any task about 70% correctly about 70% of the time
    • Drove up electricity demands through the roof
    • Gave humanity the option to make childporn from their armchair
    • Is generating such hardware shortages that computer hardware prices have doubled, tripled, quadrupled, and more to come!
    • Increased misinformation by factors of thousands, if not more
    • Broke CAPTCHAs for good, thanks for that
    • Caused wild random growth of super datacenters that pollute like crazy and take away all the groundwater everywhere
    • Steals all data from everyone everywhere with impunity
    • Highly confident in giving the wrong answer
    • Literally made ma y people lose their mind into AI psychosis
    • Do I still need to continue?

    AI tech bro’s look at that list and ask: why do people not like AI?

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      Don’t forget the big one. These massive data centers only have 1 real use case. SURVEILLANCE.

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          Ok:

          • Added zero actual value to humanity: debatable for both. Both of them make information, right or wrong, more easily accessible to people, whether that’s a net value to society is debatable. The me too movement would’ve been impossible without the Internet, but so would the MAGA movement.
          • Can do any task about 70% correctly about 70% of the time: I’ll give you that one
          • Drove up electricity demands through the roof: check, happened slower then AI, but especially in the early days it was increasing demand, and the Internet in general is a cause for far more demand then AI
          • Gave humanity the option to make childporn from their armchair: can’t make child porn, but made it exponentially more accessible and prevalent.
          • Is generating such hardware shortages that computer hardware prices have doubled, tripled, quadrupled, and more to come!: I’ll give you that one
          • Increased misinformation by factors of thousands, if not more: check
          • Broke CAPTCHAs for good, thanks for that: didn’t break captchas but increased spam and made it harder to detect bots which made it necessary to make captcha
          • Caused wild random growth of super datacenters that pollute like crazy and take away all the groundwater everywhere: check, most data centers these days are still running traditional servers that hold up the Internet.
          • Steals all data from everyone everywhere with impunity: check
          • Highly confident in giving the wrong answer: check, it just used to be that a human would give you that wrong answer confidently. People didn’t need AI to write thousands of articles and posts about vaccines causing autism.
          • Literally made ma y people lose their mind into AI psychosis: check, it’s made large chunks of society delusional, and many people have lost there minds on it
          • Do I still need to continue?

          9/11, so most. LLMs are the Internet distilled, and thus they have the same problems, and benefits of it.

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            General non-AI internet server generally stayed under 300 W and could frequently server thousands to tens of thousands concurennt active users. AI servers are now clocking in at 10kw and can generally server dozens of users. The internet datacenters were an couple orders less magnituted than what the AI people are doing.

            So too with the pollution angle. Even worse because the traditional datacenters pretty much lived within the grid and their super high demand causes them to roll out their own generators with less emissions controls.

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    Boom? If it were a boom, everyone would be prospering by it. It is a money and energy sucking wealth generator for the already very rich and nothing else. It doesn’t even do anything reliably after stealing the world’s cache of information to “train” it.

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    Jensen can suck my Huang for being such an idiotic shill of vaporware tech that is simultaneously undermining something like 30-40% of the fucking GDP at this point. Fuck you, dude. You’re actively accelerating us towards an economic depression that is going to fucking dwarf 2008.

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      If I was in charge of coming up with ironic punishments, I would lock him in a data center with the cooling turned off. Let’s see if he or his chips give out first.

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        The meatbag would fail first; the hardware would probably limp along and thermal throttle for a good stretch of time before fully cooking itself and getting bricked.

        That said, conducting the experiment would confirm these assertions, so it’s probably still worth doing.

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      In June 2008 SP500 was 1361 points before it dropped to 700 points in February 2009 so 48%. Now SP500 is 6943 points if it drops by 48% that be 3610 points. It’s only drop to state from October 2022. I don’t think it would change much. We need to go deeper.

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    “We’re only trying to make all of your jobs obsolete while paying politicians to not tax us, making all consumer electronics outrageously expensive or inaccessible, getting obscenely wealthy by stealing your works of art, making your power bill more expensive, consuming all of your water supply, and accelerating climate change. Why aren’t you clapping?”

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    I’ll believe CEOs are actually confused or offended the day business articles start giving equal time to labor and capital voices

    The lies don’t work as manipulation when purchasers and other dumb execs actually use the tools and see what their uses and limitations actually are vs what they are sold to be able to do. So they switch to how could you or it’s not good now but next quarter fomo.

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    They’ve definitely got a marketing problem at the very least. What is the value of AI to an individual that does not correlate to creating more value to their workplace? That needs to be the focus. While there are arguments for and against the value of AI in increasing productivity, at the end of the day, I don’t fundamentally care about my productivity level unless it creates some form of incentive for me. So I’m not being paid more but I MAY produce more. Yay??? What’s the sell here? Why as a standard human would I value this to the point that they value it? I see it negatively harming the things I like such as the internet, music, political discourse, books, and television. What’s the benefit that I personally see? Unless they can drill that value into the masses, they are going to have an image problem.

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    This product is going to take your job, bit to make it work we need to use all the electricity and water, making them more expensive. We also need to steal all the user data in the world. Why does nobody like it?

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        I’ll paraphrase something I saw a few weeks ago and now cannot find, sums up my feelings pretty well.

        The people I love hate AI, and the people I hate love AI. But the things that intrigued me about technology in the first place also intrigues me about this technology.

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      I mean. There would be no salesman if the snake oil didn’t exist.

      Also snake oil refers to a fake product. Why would you “not hate” the fake product? At its foundation the sole purpose of the existence of snake oil is to be disingenuous and scam customers.

      Hate the game not the player.

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        I disagree. If not snake oil it would be something else. There are certain personality traits salesman seem to all have. I would describe it as a comfort with being disingenuous. Say or do anything to get money. Its often portrayed as “hustle culture” and praised. We should be condemning those traits not praising them.

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        I think you’re taking my comment a bit too literally. My big problem with AI is who is pushing it and how much they’re pushing it.

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    “I can’t believe how ungrateful they are that we found a more efficient way to kill them!” Paraphrasing here.

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    I always get psyched to read articles like this and too often they’re just little stubs. I feel like the second this one gets going it just ends.

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      Yeah, I feel you.

      It makes me crave analysis like Cory Doctorow often does when covering this stuff on his blog. Fuck performing some misplaced notion of “neutral reporting” — the matter at hand is far from neutral, so let’s be honest and call these abominable turd crumpets out for what they are

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    The only AI feature I have found to be working well is the AI integrated into Jira.

    It does an excellent (but pointless) job of summarizing ticket communications.

    I say pointless because there is no reason to use it.

    However, it does understand Swedish slang and summarizes it properly.